NEWS: Wolfowitz dating a muslim causes stir in Washington

Originally posted by cafeman
I too will be interested as to how Wolfy responds to the "anal sex" question when asked in pubic....ooops I mean Public!

And this is supposed to add to ATSNN? Off topic and just plain stupid.

Originally posted by sanctum

Originally posted by cafeman
I too will be interested as to how Wolfy responds to the "anal sex" question when asked in pubic....ooops I mean Public!

And this is supposed to add to ATSNN? Off topic and just plain stupid.

It's not off topic....I had little if any need to know about Clinton and Monica...but since the powers that be in congress made sex an issue....and lying about it...then this IS on topic....it's on topic because those that Wolfy represent (Neo-cons) wish to portray themselves as a "Holier than thou" group of elites with wild eyed visions of Neo American Expansionism. You are entitled to your opinion...but as far as being off topic....hummm! Hardly...whats good for the goose! You know the rest!

With all the bungling mess this as----- has made of the Iraq war and the mess he's made of the military, [ along with Rumsfield,] he's been like the perverbial, unkillable cocroach. Maye it'll take, to put him in political coma, what was used on the likes of Clinton, Republican congresswoman Chenoweth, Newt Genrich, Republican to be Speaker of the house Robert Livenston, Georgias Bob Barr Republican Henry Hyde and many more, something, good and juicy---like infidelity and sex. Something the conservatives know plenty about but can only, point the finger the other direction. This time , though, the rest of the world gets to pile-on.

Is it his israeli slave-trader mentality showing through ?

Krotz that right there is my problem with your story... Your comment was deliberatelly racist and anyone caught tacking something like that in an OP/ED piece would be justifiably professionally destroyed.
I can respect that you have strong opinions, but when I read that comment it made me physically ill in it's sheer hypocrisy and hatefulness. Yes let's deride the stereotypical "influential money grubbing jew" when there are people all over the world suffering under barbaric sharia law.

Originally posted by Sugarlump
Is it his israeli slave-trader mentality showing through ?

Krotz that right there is my problem with your story... Your comment was deliberatelly racist and anyone caught tacking something like that in an OP/ED piece would be justifiably professionally destroyed.
I can respect that you have strong opinions, but when I read that comment it made me physically ill in it's sheer hypocrisy and hatefulness. Yes let's deride the stereotypical "influential money grubbing jew" when there are people all over the world suffering under barbaric sharia law.

a couple of answers : israeli slave trader mentality is not a racist remark since Israel is top ranking in sex and slave trade. Also, historically, jewish gangs were often engaged into sex slavery and slave trade.

Sex slaves in Israel
Thousands of women are being smuggled into Israel, creating a booming sex trade industry in Israel that amounts to over US$1 billion a year, a parliamentary committee said on Wednesday.

According to ynet, findings showed that some 3,000 and 5,000 women are smuggled to Israel each year and sold into the prostitution industry, where they are constantly subjected to violence and abuse.

The report, issued annually, said some 10,000 such women currently live in 300 to 400 brothels throughout Israel. They are traded for about US$ 8,000 – US$ 10,000, the report said.

The U.S. State Department ranks Israel in the second tier of human trafficking around the world, saying the Jewish State does not maintain minimal conditions regarding the issue but is working to improve.

Most foreign prostitutes in Israel come from Ukraine, Moldova, Uzbekistan and Russia and many are smuggled in across the Egyptian border.

www.menareport.com...&mod=print

Israel is also one of last apartheid states, together with Zimbabwe :

BISHOP DESMOND TUTU, the South African Nobel Prize winner, described how he saw on his visit to Israel "much like what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about" (1). Comparisons between apartheid South Africa and Israel/Palestine have often been made, but not always clearly explained. Many factors have made the comparison attractive.

The first, perhaps most important, is the historical colonialist foundation of the two conflicts. White settlers in South Africa, like Zionist pioneers, colonised a land already inhabited. As in South Africa, the settlers in Palestine expelled the indigenous population, some two-thirds of the Palestinians in the land that became Israel in 1948, took possession of their properties and legally segregated those who remained.

However, admitting that Israel’s foundation was colonialist does not mean that it is compar able to apartheid South Africa. As Gershon Shafir, a leading Israeli sociologist, has noted, while both conflicts were about control of the land, they took place in different historical and economic conditions that had an impact on their evolution and their relation to the natives (2).

White South Africans and Israelis dealt differently with the indigenous demographic reality. In Palestine the Zionist project wanted to negate the idea of a native non-Jewish population, coining the phrase "people without a land for a land without a people" (3). It sought to establish Jewish demographic dominance by expelling Palestin ians and preventing structural dependence on the Palestinian economy, particularly on its labour. Before 1948 fewer than a third of the workers in the Jewish sector were Palestinian (4). From 1948- 67, the remaining Palestinian Arabs supplied no more than 15% of the labour force (5).

www.mondediplo.com/2003/11/04apartheid

so it is not racist calling the israeli mentality for what it is : a racial superiority ideology bent on dominion of "lower" races and cultures. This streak of thought has also, under the influential jewish-neocon lobby, pervaded US thinking. Neocon TV propaganda insists that arab life is worth less than jewish or american life. Hundreds of thousands of iraqi casualities aren't even being reported, and someone killing ten jews makes a evening-filling headline.. Wake up to the world you live in

I expect an apology for your insulting remarks

I did not read every post here to see if this had been raised... but never mind the storm in a teacup in Washington.

Has Shaha Ali Riza dating a Wolfowitz caused a stir in Tunisia?

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
I did not read every post here to see if this had been raised... but never mind the storm in a teacup in Washington.

Has Shaha Ali Riza dating a Wolfowitz caused a stir in Tunisia?

I doubt its a popular match just about anywhere. No doubt the Tunisian version of discussion boards are alive with this topic as well. Well, I don't see the issue with who he falls in love with and if he was not such an extremist with alot of his views it would be a non issue.

Has the Israel Sex Slavery thread disappeared ?

Wow, between this and the bit where Karl Rove sent flowers to an 'anti-bush' columnist, ya gotta wonder, whats wrong with republican chicks!! The men seem to be runnin' from 'em!

Originally posted by krotzkrotz
Has the Israel Sex Slavery thread disappeared ?

No it has a different title and can be found here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So slave trade is not newsworthy on ATSNN when israel is related to it ?

Goodbye, i won't post here anymore, i smell a zionist lobby here

Before you run off there Herr krotzkrotz maybe you would lkike to explain THIS remark?

Originally posted by krotzkrotz
D) It is essential to notice that the US are being led by a subhuman race of inferior beings.

I have asked you on every thread I have seen you on but either your hood is covering your eyes and you cant see the question or you dont have the guts to show your hand.

Which is it?

I wouldnt mind the little neo-nazis nearly as much if they had the guts to admit what they were.



[edit on 29-3-2005 by Amuk]

Sort of like roaches, you flip on the light of truth and WOAH watch them scatter

Originally posted by Amuk
Before you run off there Herr krotzkrotz maybe you would lkike to explain THIS remark?

Originally posted by krotzkrotz
D) It is essential to notice that the US are being led by a subhuman race of inferior beings.

I have asked you on every thread I have seen you on but either your hood is covering your eyes and you cant see the question or you dont have the guts to show your hand.

Which is it?

I wouldnt mind the little neo-nazis nearly as much if they had the guts to admit what they were.
[edit on 29-3-2005 by Amuk]

Zionist-influenced boards are the only place morally depraved enough to tolerate egomaniac rantings like Amuk's little hour of glory. Hide in your little whole until we're coming to get you

Originally posted by krotzkrotz
Zionist-influenced boards are the only place morally depraved enough to tolerate egomaniac rantings like Amuk's little hour of glory. Hide in your little whole until we're coming to get you

I notice you still didnt answer the question.But of course to answer the question you would have to tell everyone who you REALLY are wouldn't you?

If you are man enough you can also explain that little threat at the end. Who would this WE be, and when will you pump up your courage enough to come and "get me"?

I laugh at the threats from cowardly little goose-steppers Especially ones that arent even man enough to come out and admit it. I am not the one hiding here am I? But what can you expect from a group that hides behind hoods and sheets to scared to even show there faces.....LOL

Hitler was a sissy



[edit on 29-3-2005 by Amuk]

Sorry if you misinterpreted my remark as a threat, i was just referring to an inevitably impending social evolution in the United States, where egomaniacs like yourself will become a hunted kind. If you remember, you insulted me on several occasions. An apology would be in order.

This isn't a zionist influence board, it just has a low tolerance for cowardly racists.

If you believe they are subhuman, you are actually their ideological brethren. That's exactly what true zionists believe about you. You don't like being called an insect, cattle? Well, I got news for ya', neither do they. You're just like them, right down the middle. You couldn't be MORE like the people you hate if you tried.

But such thoughts are anathema to the mind of a bigot. It's a flaw in the personality matrix, you think that the rules of conduct apply to others but not to you. Simple superiority complex, so tedious, so predictable. It comes from insecurity and fear, the root is ignorance.

It's also commonly known as hypocrisy.

I can't stand the advice given by the Babylonian Talmud, because I believe rape and murder are wrong within the context of a civilized society, but I don't call zionists subhuman, because they're not. They're too evil to be anything but human.

Don't you understand that in order to fight against something you have to take the opposite position? You have to increase your stature, raise yourself up and take the high ground. You can't lower yourself to do battle, otherwise another group or entity will see you as the oppressor, the subhuman, and step on YOU.

That's exactly what's going to happen. I mean, there's maybe a dozen of your type on this board, compared to thousands of reasonable, inteligent, logical people. You're the minority now, how's it feel?

And Amuk isn't going to get crushed by any revolution in this country. Libertarians are the ones who will be leading the charge you silly git! The concept of a libertarian would appeal to you types if you'd only lay off the learned prejudices for five seconds.

Some people just really don't get it. If you ever got your way, and constructed a homogenous society, in three or four generations you'd all be shambling about, bumping into each other, unable to form sentences or keep the drool from splattering your pretty brown uniform. It's not racial purity, it's INBREEDING. Retardation and physical malformation follow on the heels of your little experiment, and then what do you do? It's too late now, nobody else in the civilized world will coutenance your hideous deformities. Good job Einstein, way to go.

Where do you get the idea from that i am a racist ? Just because i name israelis for what they are ? Subhuman for me refers to a purely moral context, not an ethnic one. A subhuman for me is someone like George Bush, ariel sharon and their supporters, who murder people for the greater glory of a morally insignificant minority. That behaviour can be rightfully called subhuman because it does not comply with humanist standards. Where is the racism in that ?

And why do you believe "libertarians" have any kind of future ? Market prices do not reflect any kind of intrinsic or competition value, but results of oligopolistic manipulation .. and as far as i know the world is evolving towards more insight, that is intrinsic value, as opposed to corruption, exploitation and shareholder value.

You can't 'name Israelis for what they are', that's what makes you a racist! Every Israeli is different. Some may share your ethics, but you've precluded cooperation by lumping them in with the child rapists! It's obscene to categorize and dehumanize an entire race or species for the actions of a few. THAT'S what makes you a racist.

[edit on 29-3-2005 by WyrdeOne]

Originally posted by WyrdeOne
You can't 'name Israelis for what they are', that's what makes you a racist! Every Israeli is different. Some may share your ethics, but you've precluded cooperation by lumping them in with the child rapists! It's obscene to categorize and dehumanize an entire race or species for the actions of a few. THAT'S what makes you a racist.

[edit on 29-3-2005 by WyrdeOne]

Excuse me, but wouldnt you call a society where people use sex slavery services over 4 times a year a person morally depraved ? Wouldnt you attest them a strange mentality ? Wouldnt you call a society enforcing Apartheid and killing hundreds of palestinian children a year deeply sick ?What the heck is racist about that ?