NEWS: Wolfowitz dating a muslim causes stir in Washington

Its not what is said, it's how it is said. Nuff said.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra


This is why I voted down, it is wrong to say things like that.

We are NOT at war with all muslims. Period. Would you kick a black girl out of her cmmunity for dating a white guy? It just racist.

Well let me go back and bring the thread,

Paul Wolfowitz, the Jewish-neocon leader married to his Jewish wife Clare Selgin, is reportedly dating Shaha Ali Riza, a tunisian-born influential Muslim woman.

Now, he is "married" to a "Jewish" women, and he is dating or supposedly dating, a "Muslim" woman.

Now here I see, adultery, and the "Jewish" women should be outrage that her husband has been unfaithful with a "muslin" women when we know very well that they in their religious believe this is seen as an outrage.

Plain and simple.

And how does it upset you? The story seems perfectly legit to me, and the bit about people choking on their coffee is probably a joke. I got it myself, as I was rather suprised to hear the news.

You have to admit, a top level Jew, who actively promotes American Hegemony and invasions of muslim countries, and a big supporter of Israel, is dating a Muslim woman....is that just not a little surprising?

It's like Ariel Sharon running off with Arafats wife (seeing as he is dead, someone has to move in there!)....that would make you choke on your coffee!

Maybe the girl is a secular arab ?

Those females often don't like the islamic stance regarding females at all.

In holland we have Ayaan Hirschi Ali, originally a sudanese born female, now in dutch politics with a critical stance towards islamic mentality, read the following article and notice the peculiar "Illuminate", lol maybe the tunesian girl is also heading towards the light....

www.indybay.org...

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Im not upset. Just giving my point of view. I didnt want this to turn in to an argument.

The REAL headline should read! !:Neocon, Liar, Propogandist Wolfowitz Gets Kinky with Muslim Woman" Where are the tabloids when you need em?

If my history is correct....didn't we iimpeach a President for something like this!

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krotzkrotz, good for you!

This is as newsworthy as most stories and there is nothing wrong with your source.(other than the pic of the woman, yuk- coyote' :up

Sauron – 'Rednecks' hit the nail on the head. Now to run one past the other nail. People that vote against a story then post they voted against it BEFORE it clears should not be allowed to post in that story. That's a pretty cheap shot. Worse than cheap- it is LOW.

(from the story link)
The World Bank’s staff association has told executives it has been swamped with complaints from employees about Wolfowitz.

However, Wolfowitz’s only comment on the complaints has been a terse statement issued through a Pentagon spokesman. He said: “If a personal relationship presents a potential conflict of interest, I will comply with bank policies to resolve the issue.”

Bet that's true. Being fired would be the minimal punishment- being called up for the new draft would probably be the real punishment.

To the business implications of this news find-

Wikipedia article
The work of the Bank is subject to long-standing and strong criticism from a range of NGOs and academics, and in some cases from the Bank's own internal evaluations. It has been accused of being a US or western tool for imposing economic policies that support western interests, despite evidence that such policies in practice are often harmful to development.

There exist action groups worldwide against the World Bank because of its use of money as a political weapon.

one of the World Bank boycott sites
At the same time, the IMF and the Bush administration are still trying to bleed the Argentine people dry, by demanding an increase in charges for public services, cuts in social programs and reforms to make it easier for banks to steal the nation's wealth. In November, Argentina defaulted on its payments to the World Bank, but it looks like neither the administrations in Washington or Buenos Aires are ready to give up on their quest to destroy all hope in Argentina for independence.

'voted IT down because it is racist' Baloney! This is one more reason THIS story is news! No one can deny ignorance by hiding from it.

And just to remind all those that forget: 'Wolfie's woman' is a Muslim, feminist agitator. She is not representative of her own culture. Wolfie's actions are what would be more expected of a nutted-out Liberal.
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Originally posted by marg6043




Now, he is "married" to a "Jewish" women, and he is dating or supposedly dating, a "Muslim" woman.

Now here I see, adultery, and the "Jewish" women should be outrage that her husband has been unfaithful with a "muslin" women when we know very well that they in their religious believe this is seen as an outrage.

Plain and simple.

What they are, Dont matter. That the act was done, is where the outrage should come.

Plain and simple

Originally posted by JoeDoaks
krotzkrotz, good for you!

This is as newsworthy as most stories and there is nothing wrong with your source.(other than the pic of the woman, yuk- coyote' :up

Sauron – 'Rednecks' hit the nail on the head. Now to run one past the other nail. People that vote against a story then post they voted against it BEFORE it clears should not be allowed to post in that story. That's a pretty cheap shot. Worse than cheap- it is LOW.




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You clearly seen the Attack on members that where voting down. I feel I have the right to back why I did so, even more so when baited.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by krotzkrotz
If i was a muslim i would vote for her being exorcised or cast out of the religious community for sleeping with Wolfowitz. It's probably gruesome for muslims to imagine a fellow muslim dating one of the world's top-ranked muslim killers & enslavers. I bet she won't show up in a muslim country for the rest of her life

This is why I voted down, it is wrong to say things like that.

We are NOT at war with all muslims. Period. Would you kick a black girl out of her community for dating a white guy? It just racist.

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It's not black vs. white or jew vs. muslim, your comparison is wrong. Wolfowitz is not just a standard jew, but a very influential one who is responsible for the killing and mistreatment of thousands of "inferior beings", according to his israeli thought. He is a criminal monster, and that is why this story is so weird. Imagine Hitler dating jewish women, that would be a better comparison.

By the way, there is no such thing as a jewish race, most jews nowadays are greek or mongoloid in "race".

Im not upset. Just giving my point of view. I didnt want this to turn in to an argument.

No argument dude

Just gets me riled when people vote against a story for ideological reasons rather than the merit of the story itself.

As stated, postings of mine (and mine are always from the BBC, or supported by BBC links) have come close to being voted no because it may be critical of something they don;t agree with.

For example, one I posted was about US plans to invade Iraq in feb 2001. A BBC investigation, featuring high level execs from Shell US and other high ranking politicians from Washington, and within 5 minutes it had 8 no votes.

Why?

Because people obviously got upset by it, and wanted to kill it before it was upgraded.

By the way, there is no such thing as a jewish race, most jews nowadays are greek or mongoloid in "race".

Most don't know that you know. If you did a study, I would bet good money that most of the Biblical jews, are more than likely those that live there now, ie; Palistinians.

Modern Jews (about 70-80%) are mainly from the Urals, Kazakhstan etc who converted in the 10th century. Hence all the "wolf" and "berg" names they have.

Originally posted by stumason

Im not upset. Just giving my point of view. I didnt want this to turn in to an argument.

No argument dude

Just gets me riled when people vote against a story for ideological reasons rather than the merit of the story itself.

As stated, postings of mine (and mine are always from the BBC, or supported by BBC links) have come close to being voted no because it may be critical of something they don;t agree with.

For example, one I posted was about US plans to invade Iraq in feb 2001. A BBC investigation, featuring high level execs from Shell US and other high ranking politicians from Washington, and within 5 minutes it had 8 no votes.

Why?

Because people obviously got upset by it, and wanted to kill it before it was upgraded.

Well, I voted it down because I dont feel that is what ATS News is about. Thats what it is for, plus it only had one link that want very "un-bias".

Well, I voted it down because I dont feel that is what ATS News is about. Thats what it is for, plus it only had one link that want very "un-bias".

Ok, but I ( and many others, I am sure) would agree that it is worthy of ATSNN.
Wolfowitz is a big player in current US Foreign policy thinking, and for him to be dating a Muslim is definately interesting, and should be reported here, considering all the debate we have had over the Iraq war, 9/11 etc etc.

Originally posted by krotzkrotz


It's not black vs. white or jew vs. muslim, your comparison is wrong.


How bout not the same as yours, I cant say You or I am "wrong."

Originally posted by stumason

Well, I voted it down because I dont feel that is what ATS News is about. Thats what it is for, plus it only had one link that want very "un-bias".

Ok, but I ( and many others, I am sure) would agree that it is worthy of ATSNN.

That is YOUR point of view.

Originally posted by cafeman
The REAL headline should read! !:Neocon, Liar, Propogandist Wolfowitz Gets Kinky with Muslim Woman" Where are the tabloids when you need em?

If my history is correct....didn't we iimpeach a President for something like this!

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Only because he lied about it.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Only because he lied about it.

Interesting line of thought.. someone should ask Wolfowitz in public amidst a crowd, possibly when he's visiting Egypt for example, if he had anal sex with his muslim girlfriend. Let's see if he lies about it ..

Originally posted by krotzkrotz

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Only because he lied about it.

Interesting line of thought.. someone should ask Wolfowitz in public amidst a crowd, possibly when he's visiting Egypt for example, if he had anal sex with his muslim girlfriend. Let's see if he lies about it ..

Well, who is to say this is even correct, hence the "Un-Bias" link comment.

I know someone added another its really no better.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by cafeman
The REAL headline should read! !:Neocon, Liar, Propogandist Wolfowitz Gets Kinky with Muslim Woman" Where are the tabloids when you need em?

If my history is correct....didn't we iimpeach a President for something like this!

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Only because he lied about it.

I too will be interested as to how Wolfy responds to the "anal sex" question when asked in pubic....ooops I mean Public!