A Conservative MP Has Been Stabbed While Attending A Constituency Surgery At A Church In Essex.

a reply to: McGinty

We kind of priced ourselves out our own market children wise when we decided to adopt the same kind of ethos China had at one point.

We certainly do indeed require some harmony and balance to be added to the equation.

But that seems to be, and just like everything else, in rather short supply right now McGinty.

This nation is more divided in this day of age than in any other time i can remember in my 46 turns around the Sun.

Hell of a predicament for a supposed first world nation that at one point in the not to distant past held sway over 2/3rds of the entire planet.

a reply to: lakenheath24

I agree completely! But I take solace in the thought that what was once a nuanced con has become a circus. That may mean it’s on its last legs. However, I don’t look forward to the riots and revolution that usually accompanies such falls of empire - usually innocents die, there are few winners and those that do win end up being just as bad or worse than what they replace.

Careful what we wish for…

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Most of us over here are just fine with our vaccine status Asktheanimals.

That division is on your end there mate.

70-80% of this nation now double vaccinated and doing just fine.

That being said divide and conquer has always been the colour of the day no matter where one hails from.

Its the way that the status quo is kept in place.

As to the class issues mate, well its always been about class war, with race just being one of many tools in the box that the powers that be utilise to keep us apart.

Here's is to humanity indeed, regardless of views.

Chin-chin.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: McGinty

Hell of a predicament for a supposed first world nation that at one point in the not to distant past held sway over 2/3rds of the entire planet.

Isn’t it the fate of all empire to fall?

The longer it goes, the tighter the ruling class has to squeeze to hold onto their power. The tighter they squeeze, the more aware those being squeezed become of it and the greater their number grows.

That always has been and unless some devious tech can turn the tide it always will be the way things ultimately end.

a reply to: McGinty

To be rather frank McGinty, i imagine any AI we manage to spawn will facilitate the general population with a better Zoo than "They" give us if it somehow managed to gain power.

But aye all empires rise and fall, well they do down here at the arse end of our Suns gravity well any road.

a reply to: andy06shake

This nation is more divided in this day of age than in any other time i can remember in my 46 turns around the Sun.

Agreed , but that's hardly surprising given the rapid rate of change we've see over the last decade , social change has to be done by consent not force and the rate of social change we've seen recently is leaving some of us behind , the curtailing of free speech seems to be a specialty of this government used to stifle dissent from those feeling alienated in their own country.

Never thought I'd see a Tory party give away so much at the expense of their own citizens as I've seen with the last two Tory governments , I hated Thatcher but now I miss her and her will to stand up for British born citizens.

a reply to: gortex

Its a predicament and a half gortex.

But stuff Thatcher she was a milk thief.

And the horrendous crap she perpitrated towards the poor miners was draconian in the extreme.

I certainly don't miss those antics.

Spitting Image was good back then all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

But stuff Thatcher she was a milk thief.

Thatcher Thatcher the milk snatcher , yeah I remember the bad stuff but I also remember the fear European leaders had for her , the Iron lady as was.

I doubt we would be in the mess we are in now if someone of her ilk was in charge toady instead of the Tory Toffs we've had running this country into the ground , she had an upbringing more akin to the common man and woman and had an understanding of how we live ... granted she went a bit nuts toward the end of her reign though ... " we are a grandmother" and all that.

Spitting Image was good back then all the same.

a reply to: gortex

Politics in this nation is simply broken.

Along with quite a few other things if we are honest.

My bet, and im being serious, if Boris and his ilk manage to screw up Christmas in any sort of significant manner, it may very well be the final nail in the coffin.

a reply to: McGinty

Isn’t it the fate of all empire to fall?

Not quite, the Roman Empire didn’t really fall, it just morphed into the Austrian/Hungarian Empire and the Roman Catholic Church. It’s modern day machinations are done through organisations like the Club of Rome.

See the thread All Roads Lead To Rome.

On the other hand yes, Great Britain has turned into little britain, the tv show wasn’t just satire. This has been done entirely by design and not hap hazard circumstance. As you have rightly observed bungling Boris the buffoon is just an act, just as he puts on a show, so does the rest of the political class in pretending they are working for public and not puppets for the hidden hand pulling the strings behind the scenes.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Same bankers retain the same power and sway surfer_soul.

The World Bank is entrenched in "The City" whither we care to see there presence or otherwise.

And its been that way since the time of the Knight Templars if we are honest.

Have to say also loved the "All Roads Lead To Rome" thread, that was a belter.

a reply to: andy06shake

if Boris and his ilk manage to screw up Christmas in any sort of significant manner, it may very well be the final nail in the coffin.

That’s exactly the plan, with inflation going through the roof and shortages of goods, plus particularly cold weather and gas and electricity prices sky rocketing. And a genuine nasty flu doing the rounds. It’s all a perfect recipe for a very “dark winter” as they call it.

If you can pull through that though the kindly government will step in with its free to all CBDC and carefully monitor and ration what you can and can’t buy with it.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Mate fact of the matter is a load of peeps in this nation would not mind seeing a return to the likes of the ration book.

And quite a few of them are the very same ones who voted for the likes of Boris.

Same peeps that will be long dead and planted way before this nation manages to pull her pants back up and see any sort of benefits from the likes of Brexit.

But hey'ho Turkeys voting for Christmas and all that jazz.

We will pull through, coz that's what we do, and the alternative does not bear thinking about.

And as to control, well there are not enough Police and/or armed forces in the land, able to withstand any sort of significant rebellion if offered, so if i was Boris i would be carful because people are ready to snap, and thats in all walks of life or so it seems to me.

a reply to: andy06shake

Is it bankers?

42 people people own as much money as 3.5 billion people. And its all because of that great British invention.....off-shore banking.


That was the real opposition to Brexit...London is the worlds bank and the epicenter of money laundering. Both parties talk smack about reigning it in, but nobody has the power.

$21 T R I L L I O N is sittng off-shore...thats 10% of planet earths GDP. Yet...Covid, or whatever story du-jour is put forth to scare and divide usurps this fact. People deserve their fate IMO.

www.theguardian.com...

www.forbes.com...

a reply to: lakenheath24

Well they are the ones with the banks.

Don't really matter where they are or even what's in them per-say.

Considering its all backed by sweet feck all anymore.

They make it up as they go along if we are honest.

And its never really been worth the paper its printed on, money that is.

Show me the world with people in it that can keep on spinning without the notion of money all the same and i will be rather impressed.

Its double edged sword if ever there was one.

I have no desire to detract away from the tragic murder of David Amess.
His death highlights many issues we as a society need to address and with a degree of brutal honesty many seem incapable of.

Yesterday a 14 year old lad was stabbed and died at a Glasgow train station.
www.bbc.co.uk...
I don't know the details surrounding this tragic killing but it seems to me equally mindless and raises issues that are at least as equally important as David Amess's death.
But where is the national hue and cry over this?
What are our politicians doing about these all too common knife attacks?

221 people were killed with 'a knife or sharp object' in the 12 months up to March 2021.
Some statistics on knife crime;
benkinsella.org.uk...

Why aren't we demanding that our politicians treat the murder of Justin McLaughlin with the same level of importance and outrage as David Amess?

David Amess died after a life of service - the fact that he made a very good living out of that service or that his politics differ to many of us is pretty much irrelevant - but poor Justin never had the chance to do anything with his life.
14 years old.
How many more must die before we start addressing core issues?

Regarding the city of London, offshore banking and its part in Brexit watch this very well constructed documentary:

The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire



It makes it pretty clear that Brexit was really the latest move in an ongoing battle for supremacy between the Swiss anonymous banking system and the British offshore anonymous banking system.

Under the growing power of the EU the U.K. was being forced, or under threat of being forced to surrender their offshore system; that this was an EU agenda, to favour Switzerland as the world centre of dodgy banking.

The Panama papers gave the EU plenty of ammo to dismantle that offshore centre; who knows, maybe the EU had a hand in the leak!

So, after the Panama papers what irony when Dave Cameron popped over to the Caribbean, rolled his sleeves up and announced to the MSM cameras that he would investigate and end this dodgy banking —- not long after he’d personally instigated the brexit referendum that would prevent the EU from investigating and ending the UKs offshore dodgy banking.

…The brexit referendum was first announced Feb 2016. The Panama papers began to be published April 2016. The timeline could be interpreted as the EUs desperate last ditch effort to sabotage the U.K.’s offshore system, since they probably knew that Cameron in fact wanted Brexit to protect the offshore interests and would no doubt by hook or by crook achieve it.

Brexit achieved and the trillions in offshore cash safe for now from the reach of the EU and their Swiss system masters, Cameron quit, job done.

There’s always many sides to the dice and no doubt other motives were also at play, but for me the trillions at stakes in the UKs offshore accounts was the engine that drove all of those interests to choose sides and act in 2016.

a reply to: Freeborn

"Yesterday a 14 year old lad was stabbed and died at a Glasgow train station."

""allegedly"" video footage kicking about of the actual killing.

If that's the case im sure the smart cookies responsible will be apprehended rather soon.

RIP to the poor wee soul anyroad.

a reply to: Freeborn

Well said and my sentiments exactly.

The hue and cry, as you put it, over the death of one of their own, while barely getting out of bed over murdered school kids, not to mention the tens of thousands dead due to Covid thanks to their leader’s venal decisions more than highlights the us and them mindset that the political, ruling class so brazenly exhibit.

We can’t afford more bobbies on the beat to tackle knifings, but we’ll damn well find the cash to give MPs extra police protection and construct fully secured surgery locations. Just like we suddenly found the money tree to bale out the bankers in 2007.

ETA, there8s also the timing to consider as possibly convenient. This murder has certainly swelled the last vestiges of coverage discussing Last weeks report finding Boris culpable for the thousands of unnecessary Covid deaths. Would they sacrifice one of their own in a false flag? Boris has shown he’s a ruthless operator.

a reply to: andy06shake

Did you not read the article? It was until the gold standard was sideswiped.

But nobody stopped it and its too big to pull the plug on now.


Kinda ironic that its 4% of the US economy vs 57% of russian economy. You know, socialism and all.