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originally posted by: Takemikazuchi
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A Great Red Dragon, a Chimera also known as "Kimera II", "Nonsensecodon" or "Lightning Coronatus." Please notice its cube-egg (conjured by a lightning crucifix) or temple & pair of cubes. Observe that it attacks both in the vertical & the horizontal state. He is the last boss.
Let him that hath an ear, hear.
originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: natoshis
Whew. That is alot of info and highly technical. I surely dont have the background to analyze your conclusions, and it is certainly full of words and concepts Im in total ignorance of. Which would make me an excellent mark. Do you mind if I ask about your creds on this topic, so that I can feel safe in accepting your expert analysis as, indeed, expert?
originally posted by: natoshis
originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: natoshis
Whew. That is alot of info and highly technical. I surely dont have the background to analyze your conclusions, and it is certainly full of words and concepts Im in total ignorance of. Which would make me an excellent mark. Do you mind if I ask about your creds on this topic, so that I can feel safe in accepting your expert analysis as, indeed, expert?
I don't want to dox myself but I have an education in microbiology. I've studied a lot of immunology, anatomy, dietetics and virology.
originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
is ‘sin’ a technical term then. I noted you used it twice.
Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect, refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered
originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
a reply to: Takemikazuchi
Can you boil your post down to 1-2 comprehensible themes? I get the bible allusion at the end but everything before that is indecipherable.
originally posted by: BrujaRebootedyour advise to stay away from people for 5 to 10 years is pretty extreme. does not leave me feeling confident.
EDP: Exposure during pregnancy
8.3.5.Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational
Exposure Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy
or breastfeeding and occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer
Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness.
8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy An EDP occurs if:
* A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after
discontinuing study intervention.
* A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study
intervention exposes a female partner (to the study intervention - the spike protein or the vaccine) prior to or around the time of conception.
* A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been
exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure.
Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:
* A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is
pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by
inhalation or skin contact.
* A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to
the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his
female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
originally posted by: natoshis
originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
is ‘sin’ a technical term then. I noted you used it twice.
"Sin" in the term "Original Antigenic Sin" refers to the original imprint that a virus leaves onto you upon the first time "Virus A" it ever challenges your immune system, determines the outcome of how you will handle future infections. (upon infection with "Virus B")
Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect, refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered
From: en.wikipedia.org...
If Virus B is significantly similar to Virus A = A good original antigenic sin reaction from the CD4 antibodies produced from the challenge when memory-B cells were initially produced.
If Virus B is significantly different to Virus A = No antigenic sin influence - Memory B cells are produced to store information and new CD4 antibodies are deployed.
If Virus B is similar to virus A, but not significantly similar or significantly different, this is the worst outcome of original antigenic sin - the immune system recognises the previous invader and deploys the previously made antibodies to handle the situation - however because the virus is different, but not different enough, no new memory-B cells are deployed to handle the situation. You end up with suboptimal antibodies which are binding but non neutralising
Binding antibody = an antibody that captures or "eats" an antigen
Non neutralising antibody = an antibody that cannot destroy the antigen that it has captured or "binded" to - causing the immortalisation and persistence of the antigen in the infected cell.
Antigen = Foreign pathogen
Antibody = Immune system soldier cell
originally posted by: BrujaRebootedyour advise to stay away from people for 5 to 10 years is pretty extreme. does not leave me feeling confident.
I'm not very confident either.. The fact Pfizer made it reportable to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness of incidents of exposure during pregnancy, breastfeeding, or occupational (at work or at home) exposure to the "study intervention" (the vaccine and its spike protein) - Makes me realise they wanted to avoid any reports of adverse events associated with babies being exposed to spike protein during the clinical trial, so they would have minimal adverse events to report during the clinical trial.
The issue is, that if they're this concerned, exactly how toxic is this to babies? Skin contact of a pregnant woman to someone who had the vaccine was enough to be classified as a reportable event to Pfizer Safety, Pregnant mothers were not allowed to participate in the "study intervention" (studying the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine) and if any of the Exposure Criteria below were met, the patient was dismissed from the clinical trial. That's very very scary. Any exposure to spike protein at all, even environmental exposure in the public was enough to terminate and discontinue that patient from participating in the study intervention (testing the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine)
Source: Pfizer Clinical Trial Protocol Document point 8.3.5 - media.tghn.org...
EDP: Exposure during pregnancy
8.3.5.Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational
Exposure Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy
or breastfeeding and occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer
Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness.
8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy An EDP occurs if:
* A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after
discontinuing study intervention.
* A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study
intervention exposes a female partner (to the study intervention - the spike protein or the vaccine) prior to or around the time of conception.
* A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been
exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure.
Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:
* A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is
pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by
inhalation or skin contact.
* A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to
the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his
female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
Covid-19 was a SARS Corona virus, then in the lab they decided to add in a HIV protein aka the ACE 2 receptor protein also known as the Spike Protein that is created via the Vaccine.
It end up causing AIDS aka Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. Basically your immune system tanks. Sure you receive anti-bodies for covid-19... but anti-bodies are like the clean-up crew of the immune system. They are like the last thing that happens. Other natural immune cells like T-cells, Natural Killer (NK) cells, CD8 cells, are the ones that really destroy the virus and do the main job. Anti-bodies clean up afterwards.
In essence you have strong anti-bodies against covid, but your immunity to everything else completely sucks. And since your immunity sucks in general, even against covid it still sucks. After 1 covid-19 vax you might be better off against covid only.... but after 2 vaxes, you are screwed and doing worse because your immune system has tanked so much. Also Delta has resistance, and pfizer efficiency protection is down to 35% after 2 vaxes.
After that your immune system still sucks because you have AIDS. I'm not exactly feeling the most confident about it either.
originally posted by: natoshis
originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
is ‘sin’ a technical term then. I noted you used it twice.
"Sin" in the term "Original Antigenic Sin" refers to the original imprint that a virus leaves onto you upon the first time "Virus A" it ever challenges your immune system, determines the outcome of how you will handle future infections. (upon infection with "Virus B")
Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect, refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered
From: en.wikipedia.org...
If Virus B is significantly similar to Virus A = A good original antigenic sin reaction from the CD4 antibodies produced from the challenge when memory-B cells were initially produced.
If Virus B is significantly different to Virus A = No antigenic sin influence - Memory B cells are produced to store information and new CD4 antibodies are deployed.
If Virus B is similar to virus A, but not significantly similar or significantly different, this is the worst outcome of original antigenic sin - the immune system recognises the previous invader and deploys the previously made antibodies to handle the situation - however because the virus is different, but not different enough, no new memory-B cells are deployed to handle the situation. You end up with suboptimal antibodies which are binding but non neutralising
Binding antibody = an antibody that captures or "eats" an antigen
Non neutralising antibody = an antibody that cannot destroy the antigen that it has captured or "binded" to - causing the immortalisation and persistence of the antigen in the infected cell.
Antigen = Foreign pathogen
Antibody = Immune system soldier cell
originally posted by: BrujaRebootedyour advise to stay away from people for 5 to 10 years is pretty extreme. does not leave me feeling confident.
I'm not very confident either.. The fact Pfizer made it reportable to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness of incidents of exposure during pregnancy, breastfeeding, or occupational (at work or at home) exposure to the "study intervention" (the vaccine and its spike protein) - Makes me realise they wanted to avoid any reports of adverse events associated with babies being exposed to spike protein during the clinical trial, so they would have minimal adverse events to report during the clinical trial.
The issue is, that if they're this concerned, exactly how toxic is this to babies? Skin contact of a pregnant woman to someone who had the vaccine was enough to be classified as a reportable event to Pfizer Safety, Pregnant mothers were not allowed to participate in the "study intervention" (studying the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine) and if any of the Exposure Criteria below were met, the patient was dismissed from the clinical trial. That's very very scary. Any exposure to spike protein at all, even environmental exposure in the public was enough to terminate and discontinue that patient from participating in the study intervention (testing the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine)
Source: Pfizer Clinical Trial Protocol Document point 8.3.5 - media.tghn.org...
EDP: Exposure during pregnancy
8.3.5.Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational
Exposure Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy
or breastfeeding and occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer
Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness.
8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy An EDP occurs if:
* A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after
discontinuing study intervention.
* A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study
intervention exposes a female partner (to the study intervention - the spike protein or the vaccine) prior to or around the time of conception.
* A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been
exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure.
Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:
* A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is
pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by
inhalation or skin contact.
* A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to
the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his
female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
Covid-19 was a SARS Corona virus, then in the lab they decided to add in a HIV protein aka the ACE 2 receptor protein also known as the Spike Protein that is created via the Vaccine.
It end up causing AIDS aka Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. Basically your immune system tanks. Sure you receive anti-bodies for covid-19... but anti-bodies are like the clean-up crew of the immune system. They are like the last thing that happens. Other natural immune cells like T-cells, Natural Killer (NK) cells, CD8 cells, are the ones that really destroy the virus and do the main job. Anti-bodies clean up afterwards.
In essence you have strong anti-bodies against covid, but your immunity to everything else completely sucks. And since your immunity sucks in general, even against covid it still sucks. After 1 covid-19 vax you might be better off against covid only.... but after 2 vaxes, you are screwed and doing worse because your immune system has tanked so much. Also Delta has resistance, and pfizer efficiency protection is down to 35% after 2 vaxes.
After that your immune system still sucks because you have AIDS. I'm not exactly feeling the most confident about it either.