USS Connecticut has undersea collision

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You

you don't have any real information and if you did you would be breaking your security oath going any further so thank you for your time.

I served on a sub. I use common theory, cited material, and don’t provide specific specifications so I do anything illegal.


Everyone knows that submarines submerged, the illegal part would be stating the crush depth.

a reply to: neutronflux

what was your MOS or job code or whatever they call it in the navy

originally posted by: penroc3
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what was your MOS

What was yours. And the navy has rates.

You lose again.

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privacy

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it has to be cooled by something so the water can cool back down. otherwise it would just heat up and not condense anything

Wtf?

What do you not get about pumps providing continuous sea water flow through the condenser, and using the ocean as one of the literally largest “cooling pools” in the world?

You

there has to be SOMETHING cooling the condenser off,

It’s called pumped sea water flow through the condensers.

Like I already have repeatedly posted.

i could see using liquid co2 or n2 and than repressurizing the co2 or n2 with the power from the main shaft.

Why? The sub is literally surrounded literally by the world’s largest “cooling pond” called an ocean.

Trying to be “smart” you are over thinking this and just come off as ignorant.

Do you see liquid nitrogen or liquid CO2 on the diagram.



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I see the system set up to pump lots of sea water through the condenser…

Only if you would actually look up the cited material instead of looking stupid from trying to be smart.

a reply to: neutronflux

what did you do on the boat?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: penroc3

it has to be cooled by something so the water can cool back down. otherwise it would just heat up and not condense anything

Wtf?

What do you not get about pumps providing continuous sea water flow through the condenser, and using the ocean as one of the literally largest “cooling pools” in the world?

You

there has to be SOMETHING cooling the condenser off,

It’s called pumped sea water flow through the condensers.

Like I already have repeatedly posted.

i could see using liquid co2 or n2 and than repressurizing the co2 or n2 with the power from the main shaft.

Why? The sub is literally surrounded literally by the world’s largest “cooling pond” called an ocean.

Trying to be “smart” you are over thinking this and just come off as ignorant.

Do you see liquid nitrogen or liquid CO2 on the diagram.

man.fas.org...

I see the system set up to pump lots of sea water through the condenser…

Only if you would actually look up the cited material instead of looking stupid from trying to be smart.

that is what i was saying from the start. there needs to be cold water running over the hot condencers to cool the steam and the now hot cooling water needs to be dumped.

thats what i have been saying the whole time.

my point is that the sea water being used as a coolant will now be warmer than the ocean water, UNLESS it is cooled by ANOTHER cooling system that might be cooled with some type of cryo liquid to cool the hot water to match the surrounding water


on ALL the diagrams you have posted there is no picture that shows what happens to the hot sea water

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also I'm not sure what i have lost?


how many people did you save during your tour? or did you just seat in a seat and watch a screen aned maybe twist a few knobs?

sorry i don't know what they call the jobs in the NAVY as i was never in the NAVY.

how many forward deployments did you do?

what other services did you work with?

Im very proud of my service and never call another fellow service member a loser or any other names trying to put down their questions to me.

i wasn't in the NAVY how on gods green earth would i know the answers to the questions unless i ask? you being a sub mariner should be more than happy to shoot the shiz with a fellow service member and help enlight4en them a bit, but you just want to put others down.

a reply to: neutronflux

i have been nothing but civil to you and kept my questions civil

why are you so evasive

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my point is that the sea water being used as a coolant will now be warmer than the ocean water, UNLESS it is cooled by ANOTHER cooling system that might be cooled with some type of cryo liquid to cool the hot water to match the surrounding water

Nope. You just dump warmer water into the ocean that….

Remember this post….

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: neutronflux

its a sub it is ment to be stealth that would be like saying why is a 777 bigger on radar than a B2

one was made for quite and secret running the other was not.


if i were Chinese i would already know

What are you jabbering about. The warm sea water ejected by the main condensers has its heat immediately dissipated into the surrounding water (sea / sea water) shielded from detection by layers of sea water, and layers of thermoclines.

Might look up why it’s easy to detected volcanic eruptions from space with infrared cameras for surface volcanoes pushing heat into the atmosphere. but useless for summered volcanoes.

I think its along the same lines why trying to use radar under water is useless.

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You

UNLESS it is cooled by ANOTHER cooling system that might be cooled with some type of cryo liquid to cool the hot water to match the surrounding water

Want to talk about thermodynamics. Then where would the heat removed from the liquid nitrogen go to keep the liquid nitrogen liquid nitrogen.

A sub would not have room for large liquid nitrogen tanks.

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: neutronflux

i have been nothing but civil to you and kept my questions civil

why are you so evasive

I am not evading anything. I have repeatedly given the heat flow path from core to primary reactor coolant to secondary steam plant to sea water repeatedly.

Worded it many ways. Cited material and diagrams.

Unfortunately. In the nuclear navy, you would be called a rock.

You just ignored the answers trying to play smart.

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you still haven't answered me


what was your job on the boat?


how many tours did/are you serving?

what boats were you on?

what is the highest rank you got rewarded?


do you even know what i did in the AF, you should.

what tec schools did you go to? did you strike out afterwards? and if so what was that new job?

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: neutronflux

i have been nothing but civil to you and kept my questions civil

why are you so evasive

I am not evading anything. I have repeatedly given the heat flow path from core to primary reactor coolant to secondary steam plant to sea water repeatedly.

Worded it many ways. Cited material and diagrams.

Unfortunately. In the nuclear navy, you would be called a rock.

You just ignored the answers trying to play smart.

thats what i have been saying, my question to you is what happens to the warm water from the seconday cooling loop/radiator when it is pumped out? is it passed something that makes it match the sea water temp or is it only done on the surface or in safge waters?


i know how a reactor works very well.

what i dont know is how sea water that is used as a coolant not being cooled before being pumped back out

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show me the crew photo with you in it,

you can PM it to me.


or jsut tell me what boats and when and i can find out myself



and you still have yet to answer my other questions.


what did you do on the boat, how many tours on a boat did your serve, what tech school did you go to, and what was your highest rank and how were you discharged?

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btw, the navy still uses MOS' they are just called osme4thing different.


they still use the coding system so what was yours, i told you mine

a reply to: penroc3

None of your business.

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You

thats what i have been saying, my question to you is what happens to the warm water from the seconday cooling loop/radiator when it is pumped out?

And I have repeatedly answer your questions.

originally posted by: neutronflux
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The sea is the “cooling tower” for a nuclear sub.

The same with the subs air conditioning units. The ocean is the cooling tower for the subs AC.

For the diesel generator, the sea is its “radiator”.

See a pattern…..


originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: penroc3

You

but you clearly know that sub reactors are 100% efficient and there is no waste heated AT all and it is all used by the subs thermi8oinc converters and turbines to extract all the work from the super heated steam and the coolant returns to the holding tank ice cold.

Quote where I ever posted there are 100% efficient?

Hello McFly…

The main condensers take the waste heat and exchange it with the sea water. As in dump the waste eat fo the surrounding sea.


originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: penroc3

my point is that the sea water being used as a coolant will now be warmer than the ocean water, UNLESS it is cooled by ANOTHER cooling system that might be cooled with some type of cryo liquid to cool the hot water to match the surrounding water

Nope. You just dump warmer water into the ocean that….

Remember this post….

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: neutronflux

its a sub it is ment to be stealth that would be like saying why is a 777 bigger on radar than a B2

one was made for quite and secret running the other was not.


if i were Chinese i would already know

What are you jabbering about. The warm sea water ejected by the main condensers has its heat immediately dissipated into the surrounding water (sea / sea water) shielded from detection by layers of sea water, and layers of thermoclines.

Might look up why it’s easy to detected volcanic eruptions from space with infrared cameras for surface volcanoes pushing heat into the atmosphere. but useless for summered volcanoes.

I think its along the same lines why trying to use radar under water is useless.

a reply to: penroc3

You

btw, the navy still uses MOS' they are just called osme4thing different.

It’s called a rate.

Like I posted…

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: penroc3
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what was your MOS

What was yours. And the navy has rates.

You lose again.

a reply to: neutronflux

I got out as an AD2 (AC) (SAR) EAWS ESWS from an HS Squadron.

Let him figure it out.