Fully-Vaxxed Healthy Emmy Winner Dies of CV at Age 53

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: chr0naut

and we can also test for the presence of the virus

Oh we can, can we! LOL

Yes, we can. And people, like in the OP, are dying. Of a real disease. Also, people who are younger, not obese, and have no comorbidities, too. Like the person in the OP.

Some people on ATS say:
- The COVID-19 doesn't exist, and the same ones also say that it was released from a lab?
- That it's benign - but has killed 1 in 100 who are infected?
- That it can't be tested for - yet there are literally 100's of different types of tests used across the world in use.
- That the hospital wards are empty - yet people are getting turned away and medical staff are overloaded.
- That wearing a surgical type mask does nothing - yet no surgeon would ever dare operate on someone without a mask.
- That masks cause intellectual problems due to poor oxygenation - yet some of the most intelligent and physically dexterous people are surgeons who wear masks for hours on end, several days of the week.
- That people aren't dying of COVID-19 in the numbers that authorities are saying - and yet they say they are dying of the vaccines, implying in great numbers (that they never make specific reference to).
- They are saying that only the old and sick are dying, but young fit people with no comorbidities are dying, too (like the person in the OP).
- They say that someone is making political gain out of the pandemic and saying it is a pre-planned con - yet no one can really say who might be profiting politically, and exactly how that works?
- They blame the only people who warned about the possibility of this happening and tried to get everyone to organize to prevent it, and now the indolent twits that did nothing are held up as heroes and the people who gave a damn are treated as pariahs.
- They ignore the effective treatments with known clinically tested outcomes and imply that two different lice treatments work better against COVID-19 and have no adverse reactions (despite warnings to the contrary by numerous medical authorities around the world).

I could go on, but it's just ranting,

... because most of you would rather believe social media or some random 'popped up yesterday' web page by someone that no-one has heard of, rather than the official and the credible. You don't even seem to acknowledge where one thing you say entirely counters another. But you are emotionally engaged in your opinions, and so such things aren't important.

originally posted by: CupcakeKarma
a reply to: chr0naut

Pfizer announced the 95% effectiveness number before vaccination of the general public was started in the USA.

PFIZER AND BIONTECH CONCLUDE PHASE 3 STUDY OF COVID-19 VACCINE CANDIDATE, MEETING ALL PRIMARY EFFICACY ENDPOINTS

It is a major conflict of interest when the manufacturers provide the claims of safety for their product.

Yes, those with no competency in science or medicine should do it.

Perhaps someone who has a loop-de-loo thread on social media would suffice? Perhaps a D.O, with a stethoscope in their bio piccy (what would a D.O. use a stethoscope for?). I mean, white coat, so doctor, right?

Here's the truth. Every manufacturer will try and sell the good features of their product, but when it comes to pharmecuticals, there is a process, and all sorts of approvals, and testing, that the company has no control over which has to happen before approvals are given.

Now sometimes they get things wrong, and sometimes there are emergency reasons to fast track things, but all in all, the process works better than just farming it out to idiots, because when it comes down to it, it is more about safety than political ideology.

a reply to: chr0naut

The vaccines are better than doing nothing, where around 95% more will die.

That is specifically what I replied to... Where do you get the idea that without the vaccine 95% more people will die? Only 1.6% of people who have never had covid have died...for the entire history of the disease. So where does this 95% more will die number come from. I guess numbers might be hard for your brain to keep strait too huh?

a reply to: Nyiah

Thank you for putting this into terms that I never could!

originally posted by: CupcakeKarma
a reply to: chr0naut

Both linked reports said he died of COVID-19.

The usual severe effects of COVID-19 are usually ARDS and pneumonia, and we can also test for the presence of the virus, which I would suspect is important for the reasons of clinical isolation.

chr0naut

I do not understand HOW anyone can accurately test for covid, when they have not been able to isolate this ‘virus’?

The ONLY test available and in use today is the PCR test that uses the cold microbes.

Even the CDC admits that the PCR test cannot distinguish between covid and the flu.

The virus was isolated and the genome published back in January 2020.

Since then a whole slew of mutations have been isolated and their genomics published.

The insistence that they haven't isolated such a large virus, and then repeatedly genotyped and published each mutation, is clearly ignorant of numerous evidences.

Download SARS-CoV-2 genomes - NCBI

Not only that, but you can run sequence matches to compare, say HIV with the different strains, using BLAST, and that shows that other suggestions such that the SARS-CoV-2 genome supposedly having HIV sequences, were utter BS, too!

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut

The vaccines are better than doing nothing, where around 95% more will die.

That is specifically what I replied to... Where do you get the idea that without the vaccine 95% more people will die? Only 1.6% of people who have never had covid have died...for the entire history of the disease. So where does this 95% more will die number come from. I guess numbers might be hard for your brain to keep strait too huh?

The vaccines protect about 95% of those who are vaccinated. The rest, 5%, are breakthrough cases.

So, of the case-mortality for the world overall, (which is 4,816,244 deaths, divided by 235,805,910 total cases, times 100) = 2.04%.

If everyone were vaccinated, then only 95% would be protected by the vaccine. That is what the 95% effectiveness means, roughly.

But if they all had been vaccinated, then only 5% of them would have become a case of COVID-19. All of them would be breakthrough cases. Which would be just like unvaccinated cases, as far as disease progression in individuals.

If all were unvaccinated, then 100% of them would not have that 95% slice of protection. They would represent the missing 95% who are protected by the vaccines.

But it doesn't matter what the numbers are. You are taking a stance against vaccination.

Vaccination is working, but slowly. The numbers of people still to be vaccinated is ginourmous and it would be impossible to roll out such a large campaign instantly. Yet from day 1 there have been naysayers such as yourself, suggesting that it has failed - before it has really had a chance to start!

And then we get all the hesitancy over what is a very safe medicine, because people like you are trying your hardest to deny at every instance, and you are just 'putting it out there' every time someone invents a new type of BS 'fail' story.

Here's what I think; the people who push the 'giant conspiracy', 'do nothing', 'it's all fake' stories, are responsible for the people who will die as a result of them 'just putting it out there'.

When the situation changes and we start to make real headway against the virus, and none of doom porn stuff comes to pass, what do you think the attitude of those who have suffered loss at the hands of those BS artists is going to be? Because it won't be like the naysayers of previous pandemics. It's in our faces 24x7 and people will increasingly call for those responsible, to account.

originally posted by: CupcakeKarma
a reply to: chr0naut

Yes. The data has been publicly available from day 1, and has been verified by universities and labs around the world.

Sources? And are the studies/tests peer-reviewed and can be repeated to validate a constant result… ?

Yes. You know its yes.

The CDC, NCBI, BMJ, WHO, and numbers of scientific, academic, and medical groups are publishing such documents all the time.

Jump back two posts for a linked example.

One thing this China virus most certainly is NOT is “in our faces 24/7”

Maybe for those who are buried deep up the anus of mainstream media are getting it 24/7

The rest of us are yet to see a single glimpse of the China virus

Or maybe we’ve even had it already. Because one things for sure, you wouldn’t know if you’ve had it.

Can’t wait for some gutless media-dependant leftist to “hold me responsible” (that won’t happen, regardless of the wet dreams of a fascist)

CHINA

VIRUS

The most common name on earth of this corona variant. Imagine being upset by that.

a reply to: chr0naut

You said 95% more would die...as in if you aren't vaccinated you will die...like the 95% you mention who gain enough protection from the vaccine to not have issue with covid would have all died had they not been vaccinated. That is simply untrue and either ignorant of you to say or purposefully misleading. I won't guess as to which though. At the end of the day only 1.6% of all covid patients die and about 5% spend some time in the hospital over it.

You know whats different about all the vaccines you have to take before school and such and this covid vaccine...those other ones are 100% effective and also are for things which actually had high mortality rates. This is a very new vaccine which now one knows what it may effect down the road...its leaky as in not 100% effective and as to combat a disease which kills about the same amount of people as flu yearly.

a reply to: CupcakeKarma

And if the CDC and PCR tests cannot decide if a person has the covid or the flu... how can you ? or anyone ?

I agree but I do think they have unleashed something on us. I don't think the jab will fix it I think it may actually do the opposite but overall they have some vicious plan they are pulling off!
Before most people had heard any symptoms of Covid I had the flu, I was telling my Family it was so weird I lost my sense of taste and smell which was not fun and after it came back it came and went and still does,

I heard many weeks later about this symptom and since my Daughter was very ill with flu and also has lost those two senses.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
The film industry lost another great to the dreaded China Virus...as Emmy-winning hairdresser, Marc Pilcher, recently succumbed to CV.
In addition to recently winning his first Emmy for his work on the popular period drama, Bridgerton...Mr. Pilcher was a healthy 53 year old, two-time recipient of the CV "vaccine"...with no underlying health conditions.

Condolences have poured in to Mr. Pilcher's family from his many fans and stars he has worked with.

Irish actress Nicola Coughlan reacted to Pilcher’s death by encouraging people to get vaccinated.

“It’s a tragedy that he’s been taken so young when he had so much yet to do,” she wrote. “Please also use this as a reminder that Covid is still a very real and present danger, please get vaccinated and mask up to protect yourself and others.”

summit.news...

Ms. Coughlan, plays Penelope Featherington on the drama Bridgerton...and remains a staunch supporter of the "vaccine"...even after it completely failed to protect her fully-"vaccinated" close friend and coworker on the series.

We add our condolences to those of Ms. Coughlan's and the many others who knew and loved Mr. Pilcher.

nypost.com...

The vaccines are better than doing nothing

Clearly not for the unfortunate Mr. Pilcher (RIP)

Nor for the millions who have died from COVID-19 worldwide, and who were un-vaccinated.

It is easy to get all emotionally upset over a single case, but when the numbers are large, it seems that they are too big for some people's brains.

You need to start looking at the numbers by how many people LIVE, DON'T DIE!
If 98 plus (using their number) percent live well think of the lottery. What would be your chances?

Even IF the shots helped to lesson death...which they don't.

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: Nyiah

Thank you for putting this into terms that I never could!

Notice he conveniently ignored the math of the post and skipped right over it. It's how he deals with being caught with his foot in his mouth making a mountain out of a numerical molehill.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

Goal posts in motion. Stand clear.

Lol

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
The film industry lost another great to the dreaded China Virus...as Emmy-winning hairdresser, Marc Pilcher, recently succumbed to CV.
In addition to recently winning his first Emmy for his work on the popular period drama, Bridgerton...Mr. Pilcher was a healthy 53 year old, two-time recipient of the CV "vaccine"...with no underlying health conditions.

Condolences have poured in to Mr. Pilcher's family from his many fans and stars he has worked with.

Irish actress Nicola Coughlan reacted to Pilcher’s death by encouraging people to get vaccinated.

“It’s a tragedy that he’s been taken so young when he had so much yet to do,” she wrote. “Please also use this as a reminder that Covid is still a very real and present danger, please get vaccinated and mask up to protect yourself and others.”

summit.news...

Ms. Coughlan, plays Penelope Featherington on the drama Bridgerton...and remains a staunch supporter of the "vaccine"...even after it completely failed to protect her fully-"vaccinated" close friend and coworker on the series.

We add our condolences to those of Ms. Coughlan's and the many others who knew and loved Mr. Pilcher.

nypost.com...

The vaccines are not 100% effective, there will be about 5% breakthrough cases and, unfortunately, some of those will die.

The vaccines are better than doing nothing, where around 95% more will die.

Well, that's what you're told about the "95%". Of course that is what Phizer and Moderna said about their vaccines. What about the article published in the BJM, taking the data FROM Phizer and Moderna and saying the success was really about 2%? Could that be true? And what about the ADE, antibody dependent enhancement that can happen: where the vaccine makes your immune system able to fight off one straight but actually MORE open to another? Could that be at play? Does any of this deserve any serious thought or are we just going to assume that "The vaccine is better than nothing"?

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut

You said 95% more would die...as in if you aren't vaccinated you will die...like the 95% you mention who gain enough protection from the vaccine to not have issue with covid would have all died had they not been vaccinated. That is simply untrue and either ignorant of you to say or purposefully misleading. I won't guess as to which though. At the end of the day only 1.6% of all covid patients die and about 5% spend some time in the hospital over it.

You know whats different about all the vaccines you have to take before school and such and this covid vaccine...those other ones are 100% effective and also are for things which actually had high mortality rates. This is a very new vaccine which now one knows what it may effect down the road...its leaky as in not 100% effective and as to combat a disease which kills about the same amount of people as flu yearly.

Are vaccines 100% effective?

Polio Vaccination (nearly 99% effective after four vaccinations) - CDC

Vaccine for Measles (97% effective after two shots) - CDC

About Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis Vaccines (3 or 4 doses required for better than 97% effectiveness) - CDC

In the flu season 2017-2018, which was the worst season in 10 years, flu killed and estimated 61,000 people in the United States. In the same time frame, COVID-19 killed 385,267 in the United States. That is more than six times the number of people flu kills in a bad flu season.

Disease Burden of Flu - CDC

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) - CDC

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
The film industry lost another great to the dreaded China Virus...as Emmy-winning hairdresser, Marc Pilcher, recently succumbed to CV.
In addition to recently winning his first Emmy for his work on the popular period drama, Bridgerton...Mr. Pilcher was a healthy 53 year old, two-time recipient of the CV "vaccine"...with no underlying health conditions.

Condolences have poured in to Mr. Pilcher's family from his many fans and stars he has worked with.

Irish actress Nicola Coughlan reacted to Pilcher’s death by encouraging people to get vaccinated.

“It’s a tragedy that he’s been taken so young when he had so much yet to do,” she wrote. “Please also use this as a reminder that Covid is still a very real and present danger, please get vaccinated and mask up to protect yourself and others.”

summit.news...

Ms. Coughlan, plays Penelope Featherington on the drama Bridgerton...and remains a staunch supporter of the "vaccine"...even after it completely failed to protect her fully-"vaccinated" close friend and coworker on the series.

We add our condolences to those of Ms. Coughlan's and the many others who knew and loved Mr. Pilcher.

nypost.com...

The vaccines are better than doing nothing

Clearly not for the unfortunate Mr. Pilcher (RIP)

Nor for the millions who have died from COVID-19 worldwide, and who were un-vaccinated.

It is easy to get all emotionally upset over a single case, but when the numbers are large, it seems that they are too big for some people's brains.

You need to start looking at the numbers by how many people LIVE, DON'T DIE!
If 98 plus (using their number) percent live well think of the lottery. What would be your chances?

Even IF the shots helped to lesson death...which they don't.

With most modern lotteries, the chances of winning are one in the millions, not one in the hundreds.

You need to look at the death toll that already exists for the disease, and figure out what happens if people don't vaccinate, or wear masks, or lock down.

a reply to: chr0naut

< chuckle >

Last time I checked, boosters every 6 months indefinitely were NOT required for those to be considered "effective".

Try again, Sam.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
The film industry lost another great to the dreaded China Virus...as Emmy-winning hairdresser, Marc Pilcher, recently succumbed to CV.
In addition to recently winning his first Emmy for his work on the popular period drama, Bridgerton...Mr. Pilcher was a healthy 53 year old, two-time recipient of the CV "vaccine"...with no underlying health conditions.

Condolences have poured in to Mr. Pilcher's family from his many fans and stars he has worked with.

Irish actress Nicola Coughlan reacted to Pilcher’s death by encouraging people to get vaccinated.

“It’s a tragedy that he’s been taken so young when he had so much yet to do,” she wrote. “Please also use this as a reminder that Covid is still a very real and present danger, please get vaccinated and mask up to protect yourself and others.”

summit.news...

Ms. Coughlan, plays Penelope Featherington on the drama Bridgerton...and remains a staunch supporter of the "vaccine"...even after it completely failed to protect her fully-"vaccinated" close friend and coworker on the series.

We add our condolences to those of Ms. Coughlan's and the many others who knew and loved Mr. Pilcher.

nypost.com...

The vaccines are better than doing nothing

Clearly not for the unfortunate Mr. Pilcher (RIP)

Nor for the millions who have died from COVID-19 worldwide, and who were un-vaccinated.

It is easy to get all emotionally upset over a single case, but when the numbers are large, it seems that they are too big for some people's brains.

You need to start looking at the numbers by how many people LIVE, DON'T DIE!
If 98 plus (using their number) percent live well think of the lottery. What would be your chances?

Even IF the shots helped to lesson death...which they don't.

So, in a previous post you said someone "unleashed it upon us", now you are posting that it is almost benign (then why post that it was "unleashed"?), and in the same post, you also suggest that the vaccines don't stop this disease from killing people - these things are quite contradictory.

LOL

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: chr0naut

< chuckle >

Last time I checked, boosters every 6 months indefinitely were NOT required for those to be considered "effective".

Try again, Sam.

Do you not require a new flu shot every season?

Also, no-one with any credibility is talking about actually having perpetual 6 month boosters. They are still trying to decide if a third vaccination will be official policy. It probably will be.

The polio vaccine requires 4 vaccinations, three of them two months apart, for full effectiveness.

Polio Vaccination - CDC

And the point is the suppression of the disease, not avoidance of the medicine - it will take what it takes.