Big Argument with My Doctor Today Regarding Vaccinating Covid-19 Recoverees.

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, September 14, 2021



This back-n-forth goes on for 30 minutes. "Arguing" about things ranging from Vaccines starting to wear off after 30 days, to Congress and the White House exempting themselves from the Vaccine mandates because they are potentially dangerous drugs long-term.

Eventually she gives up, says the bloodwork came back with normal results, and tells me she regretted wasting so much time on me, while other patients who listen and appreciate her advice, are waiting to see her.



Bottom Line: There is potentially something very wrong with these vaccines, but due to the huge $$$ they generate for so many individuals, their potential dangers are only recognized in the form of official vaccine waivers for VIPs in society.

-CareWeMust

This is the issue I have with some of these doctors. Their way or the high way. Even when you shown they're wrong, or something sketchy in the data, they still try and convince you rather than just accept it and move on. Than they say condensing remarks like I wasted my time etc etc passive aggressive nonsense. My friend calls it "Faucci syndrome".

I also know a male nurse, about 28-29. Told me he's off work because he caught Covid a week after being vaccinated. I didn't say anything. (He's a fairly knew friend and not sure where he leans on politically). After he went back to get the 2nd shot, he was put on leave AGAIN. 1 week later. Catching Covid again.

a reply to: Freenrgy2

Yeah, also forgot to mention I had a bad reaction to a flu vaccine years ago, and developed Meniere's Disease in my left ear from it.

He was even more understanding after explaining that.

Having said that, I did have to get the Rabies vaccine back in 2015, no issues. but that was an animal bite, and had I not gotten the vaccine, and developed Rabies, I was dead. Period.

That was a no brainer. Stick me with that needle!!

a reply to: RetsuUnohana

It's funny how Judges are exempt, I bet if they mandated them it would grind to a judicial halt. If you cant smell a rat by now your sense of smell isn't the only thing wrong.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: RetsuUnohana

It's funny how Judges are exempt, I bet if they mandated them it would grind to a judicial halt. If you cant smell a rat by now your sense of smell isn't the only thing wrong.

Also funny that doctors appear to be all over the spectrum, just like us.

Some are fascists almost forcing it on patients with natural antibodies, while others say it's not necessary and risky.

I was expecting a fascist attempt from my new doc today, and got the exact opposite.

Actually left there disappointed.

Happy, but disappointed.

a reply to: RetsuUnohana

Reminds me of a story a few years back.
Drug company founder convicted of bribing doctors with money, strippers to sell more Fentanyl

originally posted by: MrNewWorldOrder
a reply to: PaPaTaco

I'm sorry that you have had such a negative experience with healthcare serivices. You have relayed an interesting narrative and the theme of dissatisfaction is evident. I can't comment further but don't seek solace from a place like this. You'll get all the agreement that you want, but it's just that. Juyst make sure you are looking at proper data and not Joe Bloggs from ATS with an axe to grind. Take care.

Sorry define “proper data”?

a reply to: Skepticape

Start here for the answers you seek: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... It's all based on what I consider to be proper data that has been peer reviewed. Not some silly opinions that don't mean anything.

a reply to: carewemust

Carwemust... Why are you so combatative?

Have you considered that your doctor might be offering you this advice because she cares about your health?

Have you considered that maybe she knows what she is talking about?

Have you considered that you may be wrong?

have you considered that the huge number of doctors/immunologists/medical officials know more than you about this? You know, because they have studied it all their lives...

It's quite sad listening to how proud you are that you ignored all her advice... She's just trying to help you you know..

PA

a reply to: anonentity

I'll call it a new technology vaccine. You're going to see mRNA being used for more delivery systems of vaccines as well as the potential to deliver medications more effectively.

Here's something....I got the flu vaccine yesterday (recombinant DNA). Felt crappy all night long. Do I think I was genetically modified or had anything nefarious done to me. No, I think I'm having a normal reaction to a flu vaccine as my immune system is building up anitibodies to said proteins that were introduced.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The shots are dangerous to all, fatal to many. Though just measuring the tip of the iceberg, VAERS shows more deaths and harmful effects than all other vaccines combined since VAERS began.

Because the viral infection is easily treated with existing therapies, a vaccine is not authorized under 21USC360. HCQ and Ivermectin have excellent success.

Warp Speed benefited pharma and the friends of Donald Trump. They delivered a toxic drug to a crazily frightened herd. The rest is history.

Oh yes, by the way the shots don't work as growing data shows.

a reply to: Salander

None of this is true.

a reply to: Freenrgy2

All of it is true. And it's much worse than what I described.

This was all planned years in advance, and so far, nobody anywhere has been able to isolate the virus in traditional methods.

Plandemic

a reply to: Salander

Give me a break and present real evidence that any of what you say is actually happening.

This is nonsense.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The shots are dangerous to all, fatal to many. Though just measuring the tip of the iceberg, VAERS shows more deaths and harmful effects than all other vaccines combined since VAERS began.

Because the viral infection is easily treated with existing therapies, a vaccine is not authorized under 21USC360. HCQ and Ivermectin have excellent success.

Warp Speed benefited pharma and the friends of Donald Trump. They delivered a toxic drug to a crazily frightened herd. The rest is history.

Oh yes, by the way the shots don't work as growing data shows.

I am NOT pushing the vax, and will not get it myself.

Have made my objections pretty clear in MANY posts.

But also not willing to bash the incredible nationwide effort to develop it at a time when everyone was concerned that this virus was MUCH worse than it actually is (because ccp was hiding data and outright lying).

Developing it didn't hurt anyone.

Forcing it on everyone while hiding the data did that.



This part is false:

"Warp Speed benefited pharma and the friends of Donald Trump"

Big pharma HATES trump more than elected democrats do.

Meets my definition of absurd.

And almost meets definition of TDS.



Otherwise agree with your post completely.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The truth is seen as absurd by many. As Orwell noted, in a time of universal deception (that's now) speaking the truth is a radical act.

Trump has friends in industry, including pharma. You may choose to pretend otherwise, and that's OK.

As Dresden James noted, when a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

People are still throwing stats around on this as if they actually mean anything? Covid stats are so absolutely skewed beyond hope that to use them as ammunition in any kind of argument is ridiculous.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The truth is seen as absurd by many. As Orwell noted, in a time of universal deception (that's now) speaking the truth is a radical act.

Trump has friends in industry, including pharma. You may choose to pretend otherwise, and that's OK.

As Dresden James noted, when a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

Orwell is the EXACT reason that I use the word 'Absurd' in so many posts!

Was getting disappointed that nobody had figured that out yet.

Well done!


I have no doubt that Trump has friends in pharma industry.

He got along with a lot of people before having the nerve to take on hillary, and actually win.



But the actual leaders of the largest pharma companies were damn near protesting Trump personally for his entire term, and sent a whole lot of cash to his opponents.

This one has no legs.

originally posted by: sunkuong
So your doctor tells you to be vaccinated to protect you health,

and your argument is that 25% of patients in your county have been vaccinated but still have covid.....as opposed to the 75% who are not vaccinated having covid?

And you would rather be the 75%

No-one can help you if you won't follow your GP's advice.

I just hope you don't get sick and find yourself unable to seek care.

Because, Care I must.

is that why several countries have stated that in fact the vaccinated are the ones getting seriously injured and have to be hospitalized more than the unvaccinated?...

is that why the China Biden administration is allowing illegals into the country without being tested or treated for COVID-19?...

Is that why scientific research states that natural immunity from COVID-19 is far more effective than the immunity from the vaccines?...

Is that why doctors whom have never been anti-vaccine are stating these are not the vaccines we need and in fact these vaccines suppress our NK cells (Natural Killer Cells) which are the immunity cells that kill viruses?...

Is that why the CDC had to admit the vaccines can cause many serious side effects including death?...

Is that why hundreds of thousands of people have had serious side effects, and tens of thousands have died after the vaccines? And whom knows how many more have had serious side effects, or died after the vaccines but still they or their families believe the lies from Dr Death Fauci, the CDC and WHO all whom lied from the start and covered for China?...

a reply to: Freenrgy2
Here is a book I highly recommend that you read:

www.amazon.co.uk...

At the least, read the reviews on the Amazon page.

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: carewemust

Carwemust... Why are you so combatative?

Have you considered that your doctor might be offering you this advice because she cares about your health?

Have you considered that maybe she knows what she is talking about?

Have you considered that you may be wrong?

have you considered that the huge number of doctors/immunologists/medical officials know more than you about this? You know, because they have studied it all their lives...

It's quite sad listening to how proud you are that you ignored all her advice... She's just trying to help you you know..

PA

Thankyou for caring enough to share your thoughts.

We think of medical doctors as being better informed than the rest of us when it comes to Covid-19. But in reality, they get most of what they learn from "peer" journals and conversations.

So, if they're fed garbage, they share garbage with us patients. It's not their fault, I suppose.

Here's another update to support why those of us who have recovered from Covid-19, do not need to be injected with the experimental warp-speed-developed vaccines.

The Fifth Circuit Court agrees that those who have recovered from Covid-19, have sufficient NATURAL IMMUNITY to negate the need for being vaccinated for Covid-19.

Petitioners also argue that OSHA has the science wrong for those with “natural immunity.”

Perhaps one of the more surprising elements of the ETS, they argue, is that OSHA is discounting employees who have recovered from COVID-19 and have “infection-acquired immunity” by requiring those individuals to be vaccinated or be subject to the weekly testing requirements of the ETS.

Petitioners in the Sixth Circuit argue this is flatly wrong. They note that the largest scientific study to date found natural immunity provides equal or better immunity than that induced by vaccination.

These petitioners also note that ETS erroneously defines the “grave danger” as the lack of vaccination, rather than lacking immunity.

Source: www.natlawreview.com...

The above is a key reason why the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals put a hold on President Joe Biden's hideous forced vaccination mandate.

IMO, our President is old/sick, and wants to inflict as much pain as he can on America, before kicking the bucket.

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To All Americans: Want to get away from these azzholes in government and medicine and media who see you only as a walking dollar sign?

Contract and Recover from Covid-19.

The courts will likely make you exempt from all the vaccine mandates.