Big Argument with My Doctor Today Regarding Vaccinating Covid-19 Recoverees.

a reply to: PaPaTaco

I'm sorry that you have had such a negative experience with healthcare serivices. You have relayed an interesting narrative and the theme of dissatisfaction is evident. I can't comment further but don't seek solace from a place like this. You'll get all the agreement that you want, but it's just that. Juyst make sure you are looking at proper data and not Joe Bloggs from ATS with an axe to grind. Take care.

a reply to: sunkuong

Don't forget that it was GP's that over prescribed antibiotics that have created super viruses and over prescribed opiods that has created a massive drug problem in this nation. They are quick to also prescribe ritalin to children which IMHO has create the violence in schools today, dully their emotions.

originally posted by: Bearack
a reply to: sunkuong

Don't forget that it was GP's that over prescribed antibiotics that have created super viruses and over prescribed opiods that has created a massive drug problem in this nation. They are quick to also prescribe ritalin to children which IMHO has create the violence in schools today, dully their emotions.

Close, but not quite right. I think you mean pan-resistant bacteria. Anitiotics have nothing to do with viruses in the traditional sense. Why did you then launch into an argument about ritalin? It shouldn't normall be prescribed by a general practitioner, not their area. What country you talking about, Willis?

Am waiting to see a new doctor right this minute.

Made an appointment for overdue physical after care created this thread.

To see if fascists will push vax.

Have recorder running in my pocket.

And know exactly what I will say.

Politely.



Will go investigate the DOJ plane on Tucson tarmac for secret meeting if still there when I get out of here.

a reply to: MrNewWorldOrder

I'll reserve the right to see if you really are "Sorry" or not, but if you are being sincere, then OK...

If you'll notice, I only joined ATS a few days ago. Have I lurked this place off and on for 15+ years??? Yes.... but I really don't get my "Data" from these or any other blogs per say...

I do my deep dive research... I read, I watch, I interact with others, I test on myself, I even check Peer Reviewed studies .gov etc etc against what I research (Not that I trust Peer Reviewed or .Gov... they can certainly be flawed and manipulated... but I do weigh out the entire matter) So I trust the information I lean on.... (I trust the Holy Spirit will not and has not led me astray) Anecdotal evidence goes a long way...if not longer than "Studies From High Preists of Scientism)

Again... I have used my years of resarch and knowledge to help several people, not just myself. So I know the content in which I share and have been given is good solid content... (Regardless of what naysayers or folks who just don't understand may have to say)

Sometimes it's taken years for the naysayers to get onboard and finally figure out, what I was laying down all those years was legit.... I know. I've personally witnessed it amongst my own friends and family... but I get it... we people often and only accept the world in which we have been presented...

So with that said.... There is little to no healing by the way of the prescription or traditional allopathic practice.... and in this BioLierus BioWhackcine's case...

Just Say No... Natural immunity will always trump any sort of man made injected stew.... especially this poison they are calling a vaccine....

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, September 14, 2021


Eventually she gives up, says the bloodwork came back with normal results, and tells me she regretted wasting so much time on me, while other patients who listen and appreciate her advice, are waiting to see her.

She wasn't obligated to "waste her time" as she says. You should have told her you regret and are frankly surprised she is ignorant and refuses to look at the science objectively. It is crazy that people that are so educated are so ignorant.

I like you have had Covid and I agree that getting the vaccine is not needed.

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: sciencelol

At that point in time, in Israel, yes. According to the numbers provided.

So then why the f$$$ does anyone need the vaccine

President Biden says (I presume he learned this from his Surgeon General?) if you get vaccinated against Covid-19, you will not contract Covid-19.

originally posted by: sciencelol
Listen to how these clowns have changed the definition of vaccine.

Vaccines are to stop the spread Tylenol s for symptoms

The definition of "Herd Immunity" has been Officially changed this year in the W.H.O. and CDC manuals also.

They now say VACCINES are how to achieve it, instead of INFECTION-RECOVERIES.

The state and national health authorities have caused more deaths than they have prevented in this country, since February 2020.

Once enough people come to understand this, their reputations will be down the toilet. I hope they'll be summoned to Congress and forced to expose TRUTHS, like CDC Director Redfield was, in July 2020.

If it wasn't for his testimony, Americans would not know that Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths are financially rewarded by the Federal Government...and there is "fraud" taking place to get that $$$. (Numbers inflated)

a reply to: PaPaTaco




Thank you for reading my post and for your holistic consideration of this pandemic and science as a whole. How does your worldview tesselate with the post-paradigmatic assumptions of what is science today? If you can provide us with insight into you epistemological and ontological assumptions, I may feel we can all start cooking with gas.

a reply to: carewemust

did you have permission to name her personally in your recounting of the story?

you get to use your ATS username but she gets no anonymity, seems a bit unfair

As to the premise of your OP why would 2 adults waste half an hour of each others time arguing, such a waste

a reply to: MrNewWorldOrder

Oh... we have a "Sesquipedalian" on our hands....

Here's my simple statement.... "Science vs Scientism"

Big Difference.

Good Luck On Your Journey, my conversation here is done and going no where with you.

Peace Be Upon You...

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: carewemust

did you have permission to name her personally in your recounting of the story?

you get to use your ATS username but she gets no anonymity, seems a bit unfair

As to the premise of your OP why would 2 adults waste half an hour of each others time arguing, such a waste

You are correct about one part:

Why did his doctor spend a half hour pushing vax on her customer?

Who already survived wuhan virus.

Using same false Democrat propaganda BS.



THAT is the point.

Thank you for pointing it out.

Who hasn't seen this?

www.facebook.com...

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Am waiting to see a new doctor right this minute.

Made an appointment for overdue physical after care created this thread.

To see if fascists will push vax.

Have recorder running in my pocket.

And know exactly what I will say.

Politely.



Will go investigate the DOJ plane on Tucson tarmac for secret meeting if still there when I get out of here.

Found a fantistic new GP.

Previous doctor retired early because he wouldn't violate his ethics over covid nonsense.


New doc took the time to review my records before entering exam room, and that must have taken her a good deal of time.

She never once mentioned the vax at all.

I brought it up as she was preparing to leave.

I Said 'oh, one more thing. Do I need that vaccine I keep hearing about on tv?'.

(Playing dumb)

She said 'you already have antibody protection from when you had covid so don't really need it. I can give you the vaccine if you want, but need to discuss a few possible side effects with you first.'

I said 'if it isn't necessary, then I don't want it'.

End of conversation.



Is DOJ plane still in Tucson?

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

which part am I incorrect about, as you did not address it you must mean naming someone on a public forum without permission

but he could have walked away at anytime, he chose to stay and argue

as you well know it takes 2 to argue otherwise its just 1 person shouting at a wall

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

which part am I incorrect about, as you did not address it you must mean naming someone on a public forum without permission

but he could have walked away at anytime, he chose to stay and argue

as you well know it takes 2 to argue otherwise its just 1 person shouting at a wall

Just being polite about the rest, not worth arguing about.

But I don't like doxxing either, and have said so in this very thread.

I actually hope he altered the docs name, but not going to research it.

a reply to: RazorV66

The vaccine is not fake. Please don't spread misinformation.

Funny this should come up.

My Dr of almost 20 years retired back in 2018. I tried to find a new one, but my insurance at work is, well....terrible.

Ended up with a Nurse Practitioner for a bit. Went to my old Dr from before my last Dr, my insurance at work changed yet again to a cheap "self funded" company. New Dr wouldn't tale it.

Back to the Nurse Practitioner. Then....He retires. LOL

Just got a new Dr, had my first appt last Wed.

I was worried he'd be a high pressure salesman. But, he ended up being really cool about it. I told him I believe I had COVID in the middle of June. It was the absolute worse "sinus infection" of my life.

I worked every day, never got tested because the symptoms didn't line up with COVID. Then, in July they started talking about DELTA and how the symptoms were different. and they lined up exactly with what I had for a week.

The new Doc said, "Well it's your choice, I just wanted to inform you"

I think I'll keep going there.

BTW, I caught COVID (I believe) while waiting to get the Vaccine. It was my 3rd attempt to get it. When they found out I had a sinus infection, they said to not get the shot until I was over it for at least two weeks.

a reply to: poncho1982

Well, there ya go. A medical provider who discussed it with you and let you make up your own mind. That's how this should be handled.

I guarantee the federal mandates will backfire horribly.

a reply to: Freenrgy2

Define vaccine? then work out if it meets the definition.