Woman who wanted Chicago hospital to treat her COVID-19 with Ivermectin, dies

Riddle me this.....

If you get the vaccine.....and let's say it works and you don't have severe symptoms or symptoms at all.....

Doesn't that turn you into q super spreader??? Shedding it all over the place w out knowing???

Why is this not being brought up

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

vestock dewormer that has been successfully used to treat CORONA virus in animals,

Yeah, in animals.

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I guess Harry and hard is what you fancy yourself....Sympathy probably isnt your strongest attribute anyway.

Oh, it hurt so much you gotta get personal?

Sympathy? Not with willfully ignorant clowns, no.

Ivermectin kills corona virus. So I guess in your mind its ignorant to take a safe medication known to kill corona virus because its used in animals? Many common medications are used in both animals and humans, such as tramadol for pain, and many antibiotics. I quess you probably wouldnt use any of those medications, since they are used to treat animals.

If you already have Covid infection, the vaccine wont help. Ivermectin might.

FDA approval of the experimental vax is political, because the mandate wont fly without FDA approval.

Who is the ignorant clown here, Harry? (someone that calls themselves ‘hard’ probably isnt, in any definition of the word)

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Why is this not being brought up

It has been.

Riddle me this...
If you are not vaccinated and get infected...and lets say you don't have severe symptoms or no symptoms at all. Does that turn you into a super spreader?


See, that's the point of wearing masks. Vaccinated or not. Because you may be infected and not know it.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Quadrivium

What has that to do with her stubborn ignorance in railing against and refusing to mask and vaccinate?

Like I said, ignorance kills.

No sympathy.

But hey, if you guys want to take a livestock dewormer instead of an FDA approved vaccine, knock yourselves out.

Again, no sympathy.

Showing your IQ, or brainwashing status?

Just regurgitating dewormer propaganda.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Riddle me this.....

If you get the vaccine.....and let's say it works and you don't have severe symptoms or symptoms at all.....

Doesn't that turn you into q super spreader??? Shedding it all over the place w out knowing???

Why is this not being brought up

You could say the same argument with a healthy person contracting it. Do you remember the FLU? Nobody was scared of the people that didn't get the shot, the shot helped you. Does nobody remember 2 years ago?

a reply to: stanDarsh070

This is all true. I think maybe the only sticking point may be that it's off label for covid and the dosage issue.

The only thing I worry about is people using the formulation for animals v the one for humans. The formulations are different, and that's beyond merely the dosages. And there are some side effects. But what drug doesn't have those?

Also some doctors won't prescribe it off label because they can be held libel should something go wrong. However, this is easily overcome by having the patient sign a waiver. And as many have said, a lot of drugs are prescribed off label.

FlowMax is a common one. It's not approved for kidney stones, but almost every doctor prescribes it.

And oh, by the way, if you take FlowMax for kidney stones and even 10 or 15 years later have cataract surgery? Be sure to tell your doctor you've taken it, because floppy iris syndrome is a common side effect. And most ophthalmologists done seem to realize women take it too! Ask me how I know.

Anyway, there should be more focus on 1.) helping those who want to take it to get the right prescription and take it safely and 2.) more education about not taking the animal formulation and less on trying to humiliate them.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Riddle me this.....

If you get the vaccine.....and let's say it works and you don't have severe symptoms or symptoms at all.....

Doesn't that turn you into q super spreader??? Shedding it all over the place w out knowing???

Why is this not being brought up

No more so than a non-vaccinated person. The real question is, who comes out the worse for it if it is spread to them. I don't know for sure. Do you?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Why is this not being brought up

It has been.

Riddle me this...
If you are not vaccinated and get infected...and lets say you don't have severe symptoms or no symptoms at all. Does that turn you into a super spreader?


See, that's the point of wearing masks. Vaccinated or not. Because you may be infected and not know it.

"Vaccinated or not."


YES.

Because vaxxed are superspreaders.

Primarily of the 'new' more dangerous variants.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
Veronica Wolski, a friend of Michael Flynn and Lin Woods, is the woman who got famous hanging QAnon signs on highway overpasses around Chicago. She was also a covid denier, and had a viral video of her declining to wear a mask at a Staples. [Link]

She got covid about three weeks ago, and while in the hospital, wanted to be treated with Ivermectin, but was denied, which I believe is wronger than wrong. If a patient is at death's door, that person should be allowed to take it.

In the three weeks she spent in the hospital, as Mother Jones put it, "She served as the flashpoint for an aggressive harassment campaign targeting her doctors."

Yesterday, Lin Wood tweeted a video saying that the person who held her power of attorney (POA) demanded that she be let out, that they had an ambulance and a doctor waiting for her outside.

The hospital did not release her, and early this morning, she passed. Cause of death pending autopsy.

Link to Lin Wood's Video


Mods, if this has already been posted, please delete.

Just want to say that, if this is important to you, know that many hospitals have different protocols, even now, for treating symptomatic patients - and to the point, for some, ivermectin is more-or-less standard, while the hospital down the street might ban it outright.

Knowing which are willing to give you the treatments you might want may influence where you choose to go if you reach that point.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Why is this not being brought up

It has been.

Riddle me this...
If you are not vaccinated and get infected...and lets say you don't have severe symptoms or no symptoms at all. Does that turn you into a super spreader?

Well, perhaps a super spreader is someone with covid that then carries on daily life, unknowigly infecting others. While someone who is unvaccinated may not necessarily need intensive care, they usually know they have something, get tested and self quarantine.

But those who feel no ill effects, carry on daily life, gleefully spreading the virus to all and sundry and without knowing it are the most risk.

Just because you got vaccinated, doesn't mean you just HAVE to ignore things, all the time.

a reply to: GravitySucks

I can't imagine anyone being dumb enough to use the animal equivalent. I keep hearing people say it, but that would also entail these people being able to even get it.

Similar to those that say people drank bleach and whatever else.

If there are people THAT stupid, then they are very few and far between.

My reasoning.....folks are concerned with health and safety. Most read labels and warnings.

Unless it is all the people that dems say can't figure out how to get a photo ID every 4 years, with 4 years in between every time it is said, then this is stupid to even discuss.

Ivermectin is a human approved drug, by the FDA and recommended for treatments for many people and has been around for decades.

Anyone saying otherwise is a troll.

The only point that should be discussed regarding Ivermectin is if it works. I have doctors in my family and their doctor friends and MY doctor that have said it does and have it personally on hand at their homes specifically for Covid. I truly couldn't care less if anyone on ATS wants to dispute it. It is being used in other countries for this reason as well. Personally I would rather take this route, with a decades old proven drug, than a brand new, non-longterm tested "vaccine".

To each their own....the vaccines have already shown to lose efficacy much quicker than expected and do nothing to keep anyone from getting covid and it is a crapshoot if they get worse symptoms. I started a thread about my ex that is vaxxed and was just in the hospital...

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Ivermectin is a human approved drug, by the FDA and recommended for treatments for many people and has been around for decades.

Yes. It is a prescription drug. To be used under medical supervision. Off label or not.

Some doctors bend to the will of their patients, for various things. Others do not.

a reply to: Phage

On your death bed in hospital, I'd say that's being under medical supervision.

Therefore the blame lays solely on the doctors who refused this treatment, and not on the person who requested it.

As so many in this thread carry a 'hard' on to state.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I can't imagine that either, but I do believe it happens. Maybe not to the point where the media exaggerates it, but not everyone does the research. They may just have a friend who heard it from a friend.

If it's not too rude to ask, is your ex going to be taking it? If so, hope it helps.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Ivermectin is a human approved drug, by the FDA and recommended for treatments for many people and has been around for decades.

Yes. It is a prescription drug. To be used under medical supervision. Off label or not.

Some doctors bend to the will of their patients, for various things. Others do not.

So why all the 'horse dewormer' propaganda BS (lies) from democrats, msm, and ATS users?

And what does that say about those that still mindlessly regurgitate such nonsense?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Ivermectin is a human approved drug, by the FDA and recommended for treatments for many people and has been around for decades.

Yes. It is a prescription drug. To be used under medical supervision. Off label or not.

Some doctors bend to the will of their patients, for various things. Others do not.

I would say any doc that bends to the will of their patient should not be a doc.

a reply to: jerich0

Therefore the blame lays solely on the doctors who refused this treatment, and not on the person who requested it.

Blame for what? Her death?
Doubtful.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I would say any doc that bends to the will of their patient should not be a doc.

And yet there is advice that patients "demand" the administration of some treatments.

Vasa, also see my post at 11:45pm. ETA: Never mind. I think I need to sleep.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I can't imagine that either, but I do believe it happens. Maybe not to the point where the media exaggerates it, but not everyone does the research. They may just have a friend who heard it from a friend.

If it's not too rude to ask, is your ex going to be taking it? If so, hope it helps.

No idea if she is or not. None of my business and I don't really keep up with her that much. She is my ex for a reason and that reason has not become any better....LOL. While I care about her well being because we have a child together, I don't care to keep up with the rest of her daily life. She is a drama queen. The only reason I have been "involved" with her recent covid diagnosis is because I am keeping our daughter full time for a while and need to be able to understand what is happening and be able to schedule what needs to be done for the kiddo.

Outside of that, I have no interest in knowing what she does in her life.