Woman who wanted Chicago hospital to treat her COVID-19 with Ivermectin, dies

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
Not giving it to them at all.

That video doesn't say what you say it says. They're not requiring it for them, just like you and I are not required to get it.

Either get vaccinated or pay weekly out of your own pocket for the rest of your life? And that's not forcing someone to do something against their will how?

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

I'm not sure. I thought they were vaccinating those entering the country legally? Haven't been following that story. Watched your video, and it sounds like the federal government is leaving it up to the employers for those working here legally? In other words, in some places, no vax job and in other places no vax, weekly testing?

a reply to: Nyiah

That part gets me. If you're nearing the point of no return, when it's likely that nothing's going to work, first off how do we get the doctors to agree that's where we are, and second, why should we have to wait that long if it's our choice and it's available?

But let's also no forget that most of the U.S is rather queasy about assisted suicide too.,which is a similar ethical argument, and very much goes to this discussion.

a reply to: SirHardHarry

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I bet you trusted these too when they came out.

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
Either get vaccinated or pay weekly out of your own pocket for the rest of your life?

Okay, what are you talking about? Stop being cryptic and just say it. What government organization is requiring you to pay anything for not being vaccinated? And which organization is requiring it to be, "fOr tHe ReSt 0f YoUr LiFe"?

So, that’s what happened to Ludes.
Thanks!....

a reply to: ELECTEDOFFICIAL

originally posted by: ELECTEDOFFICIAL
a reply to: SirHardHarry

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I bet you trusted these too when they came out.

No use arguing with him. He is a tiny, sad shell of a person. Failed musician, failed actor. Doesn't understand Ivermectin is actually a human drug and prescribed to almost every single refugee from a foreign country that comes in.

He is and always has been a complete loser and is likely paid by his "guild" to be an annoying troll online. He is broke and scared. Typical fascist as well. Basically trash that has already been thrown out but ego and pride won't allow it to be realized.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: GravitySucks

Thoughts and..

Wait, not even that.

Ignorance kills.

Sounds like a Darwin award, for sure.

Yes, the doctors should have granted her wish and treated her with ivermectin. Instead, they let her die.

amazing how you don't quite get the point, though.

a reply to: SirHardHarry

Seems these unproven and unapproved "alternative" treatments are being periodically pushed on a large scale in trending fashion. Who pushes them and why, who profits? Who makes them? Hydroxy is so last summer, Inver is the newest fad!

I don't know if those drug works or not and I no opinion about there use.

It's interesting though that you think that money would be a motive for people to push drugs that aren't effective, or would lie about the effects of those drugs. Were you around for the Purdue Pharma fiasco? That went on since the 90s. It only took the FDA, what 30 years to catch on that those drugs were being lied about? And you did see the swift heavy hand of justice in that case right? Those people had to give up all but a few billion dollars, and settle for immunity. So I don't know why anyone would would risk lying about a drug or vaccine.

But hey, if you guys want to take a livestock dewormer instead of an FDA approved vaccine, knock yourselves out.

Funny you should mention FDA approved drugs
They also did it before Purdue Pharma, with Darvon/Darvocet. It took 30 years to figure that one out too. Twice they were petitioned to remove it from the market. The first time in 1978, again in in 2006, finally in 2008 An FDA advisory panel voted 14-12 to withdraw the drugs from the marketplace in 2008. Regulators at the FDA overruled the panel, instead, requesting that Xanodyne add warning labels to the box the medicines were sold in.

I happen to be one of the people affected by darvocet thanks to the FDA's incompetence/corruption.

If you look up all the approved and recalled drug/implants/medical procedures for the last 20 years. That should keep you busy until the pandemic is over.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Quadrivium

What has that to do with her stubborn ignorance in railing against and refusing to mask and vaccinate?

Like I said, ignorance kills.

No sympathy.

But hey, if you guys want to take a livestock dewormer instead of an FDA approved vaccine, knock yourselves out.

Again, no sympathy.

So the vaccine is now a cure? You get the coof, all you need is the vax and you're set to go?

Far out, she wanted TREATMENT for the virus, not a preventative (lol) measure. She was denied this, and died. So you're an advocate of disregarding the Hippocratic oath, obviously.

You're an a grade so and so. What nonsense.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

vestock dewormer that has been successfully used to treat CORONA virus in animals,

Yeah, in animals.

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I guess Harry and hard is what you fancy yourself....Sympathy probably isnt your strongest attribute anyway.

Oh, it hurt so much you gotta get personal?

Sympathy? Not with willfully ignorant clowns, no.

Last time I checked, humans are animals.

Funny that, not a lot of opinionated buffoons know that.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Why arent we "mandating" illegals to get the vaccine if it is safe and FDA approved?

Same reason we aren't mandating Americans receive it? Unless they work for an employer with over 100 employees.

If "illegals" work for an employer with over 100 employees they will have to receive it.

It's a public safety issue.

^^ This guy...

"If illegals work for an employer with over 100 people...."

ILLEGALS... WORKING...

Says it all really, it must be the slow joe blow that struck everyone upside the head during the election fraud..

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: ELECTEDOFFICIAL
a reply to: SirHardHarry

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I bet you trusted these too when they came out.

No use arguing with him. He is a tiny, sad shell of a person. Failed musician, failed actor. Doesn't understand Ivermectin is actually a human drug and prescribed to almost every single refugee from a foreign country that comes in.

He is and always has been a complete loser and is likely paid by his "guild" to be an annoying troll online. He is broke and scared. Typical fascist as well. Basically trash that has already been thrown out but ego and pride won't allow it to be realized.

Wish I could give you 50 stars for this.

a reply to: GravitySucks
This wasn't the angle I was expecting while opening the page to read the post, in fact the opposite. Holy crap!

Trying to maintain my position on the spectrum where I am most stable and happily centered is getting pretty ridiculous lately...

Not too many more innocent hearts are going to stop beating before trying to scapegoat me will be my justification for acting out of character...

a reply to: SirHardHarry

For idiots.

You are being too harsh on yourself.
Just call it ignorance .
Less guttersnipe sounding .

a reply to: loveguy

It is pretty ridiculous. Everyone's on edge. People are being horrible, not listening to each other. It's getting to be too much really. It seems all common sense and logic has disintegrated.

originally posted by: jerich0

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

vestock dewormer that has been successfully used to treat CORONA virus in animals,

Yeah, in animals.

So if you wanna take animal meds over an FDA approved vaccine...go for it.

I guess Harry and hard is what you fancy yourself....Sympathy probably isnt your strongest attribute anyway.

Oh, it hurt so much you gotta get personal?

Sympathy? Not with willfully ignorant clowns, no.

Last time I checked, humans are animals.

Funny that, not a lot of opinionated buffoons know that.

He is also too ignorant to know that Ivermectin is actually FDA approved for human use.

Typical of a failed journalism student and complete loser in life. You should hear his "music"...I feel sorry for the guy almost.

Meh...he's failed at everything he has attempted so it is to be expected that he would be angry at anyone that doesn't tell him he is the best. Typical "actor" needing praise from everyone yet he gets it from nobody so it is all just anger.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
Veronica Wolski, a friend of Michael Flynn and Lin Woods, is the woman who got famous hanging QAnon signs on highway overpasses around Chicago. She was also a covid denier, and had a viral video of her declining to wear a mask at a Staples. [Link]

She got covid about three weeks ago, and while in the hospital, wanted to be treated with Ivermectin, but was denied, which I believe is wronger than wrong. If a patient is at death's door, that person should be allowed to take it.

In the three weeks she spent in the hospital, as Mother Jones put it, "She served as the flashpoint for an aggressive harassment campaign targeting her doctors."

Yesterday, Lin Wood tweeted a video saying that the person who held her power of attorney (POA) demanded that she be let out, that they had an ambulance and a doctor waiting for her outside.

The hospital did not release her, and early this morning, she passed. Cause of death pending autopsy.

Link to Lin Wood's Video


Mods, if this has already been posted, please delete.

Chicago news segment tonight on Veronica Wolski's passing.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ

Are they not giving it to them at all, or not forcing them to get it? At this time, nobody is forced to get it in America.

Oh , really ?
Tell that to medical system employees .

Denying ignorance .
Why ?
Some folks don't even think about what they are typing in that little box.
"Just words, just speeches"

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Quadrivium

What has that to do with her stubborn ignorance in railing against and refusing to mask and vaccinate?

Like I said, ignorance kills.

No sympathy.

But hey, if you guys want to take a livestock dewormer instead of an FDA approved vaccine, knock yourselves out.

Again, no sympathy.

Since you're so concerned about ignorance, here's a little free education for you,

1. Ivermectin has been approved by the FDA for use in humans for 40 years

2. Ivermectin is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines

3. Ivermectin has been prescribed over 4 Billion times for human usage

4. In 2015, William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for its discovery and applications

5. For the past three years, the federal government has been prescribing Ivermectin to all refugees entering the country from the Middle East, Asia, North Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean.

Now maybe you can stop ignorantly calling Pharmaceutical grade Ivermectin a "livestock dewormer" and try to have an intelligent discussion about all of the anecdotal evidence that Ivermectin has helped many people with treating Covid