Woman who wanted Chicago hospital to treat her COVID-19 with Ivermectin, dies

a reply to: SirHardHarry

You are not every patient on the planet, it does not MATTER what you think the rest should or should not do. That chick that wanted a specific variety of vitamin C in her hospital room didn't want it for a cure, she knew it wasn't going to cure end-stage cancer. She wanted it because it was LESS harsh on her failing body than the pharmaceuticals were, and helped to mitigate some of the side effects of them. In other words, just because you think something is stupid, does not mean it lacks merit in use.

She's not the only person I know who died of cancer and didn't toe the entire mainstream line. I've mentioned before on here in the past that I had another friend that deliberately tried to holistically cure herself of metastasized breast cancer, and completely shunned mainstream approaches. Like the other one, she STILL died.

However, she lived 5 years longer than they originally gave her for being terminal upon diagnosis, and her doctors had utterly no explanation for why. Maybe some of those holistic methods aren't are bogus as people think. They might not cure something otherwise deadly, but they do have potential for prolonging your life. Kept her kicking long enough to watch her youngest start kindergarten.

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
Can any of you vaccinated people on this thread tell me why we aren't vaccinating illegals? I'm not even trying to argue to the validity of the vax.

I just want to know why we are forcing Americans to get it and not the 400k illegals released onto our streets? If its really about healthcare why not vaccinate illegals?

I'm looking at you SirHardHarry, and you GravitySucks, or you LordAhriman. Just riddle me this one question.

They're not going to answer you, because they don't HAVE an answer. This is like dividing by zero, it confuses the # out of the pro-vaxxers when brought up.


I'm getting real tired of the shirking, and when someone does muster some nuts up, the swiss cheese excuses.

a reply to: Nyiah

she knew it wasn't going to cure end-stage cancer.

What does terminal stage end cancer have to do with this thread? Or Covid?

a reply to: Gothmog

I get that even though I didn't state it quite right. Like the antibody therapy, that is authorized for emergency use I believe.

From what I've read, besides many of the recent studies not having a large enough size to be accurate, some studies being biased, some papers removed due to plagiarism and inaccuracy, that ivermectim may help in early onset. This individual was well past an early onset.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Nyiah

she knew it wasn't going to cure end-stage cancer.

What does terminal stage end cancer have to do with this thread? Or Covid?

You're the one railing on "unproven" treatments/methods. I gave you two examples of those, because it illustrates a big point:


Off label, or alternative, isn't always the worst options for patients. Get over yourself, you are no more a doctor than anyone else is.

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Can any of you vaccinated people on this thread tell me why we aren't vaccinating illegals?

So, you've found them all?

Or are you talking about forced vaccination of undesirables?

I just want to know why we are forcing Americans to get it

You aren't forced. You have a choice.

I'm looking at you SirHardHarry,

Looking right back atcha.

a reply to: Nyiah

Off label, or alternative, isn't always the worst options for patients.

Never said it was.

You're the one railing on "unproven" treatments/methods.

For idiots.

Cancer is not a highly contagious respiratory virus that is a public health issue, so I'm not sure why you think it's a point of argument. Wearing a mask, and getting a vaccine, is a simple thing to do.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Can any of you vaccinated people on this thread tell me why we aren't vaccinating illegals?

So, you've found them all?

Or are you talking about forced vaccination of undesirables?

I just want to know why we are forcing Americans to get it

You aren't forced. You have a choice.

I'm looking at you SirHardHarry,

Looking right back atcha.

Great now that I have your attention ill rephrase my question since that is the only thing you conveniently want to argue.

Why arent we "mandating" illegals to get the vaccine if it is safe and FDA approved?

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Why arent we "mandating" illegals to get the vaccine if it is safe and FDA approved?

Same reason we aren't mandating Americans receive it? Unless they work for an employer with over 100 employees.

If "illegals" work for an employer with over 100 employees they will have to receive it.

It's a public safety issue.

She was denied a treatment, others must take the jab or lose their job. How is any of this right?
H is like fingernails on a chalk board....OMG
I can’t.........
Have at it, I’ll end up.....
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Why arent we "mandating" illegals to get the vaccine if it is safe and FDA approved?

Same reason we aren't mandating Americans receive it? Unless they work for an employer with over 100 employees.

If "illegals" work for an employer with over 100 employees they will have to receive it.

It's a public safety issue.

So 400k illegals being released onto our streets unvaccinated is not a public safety issue? Holy hell that's some great Koolaid your drinking.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Yep. I can't feel sorry for these people any more. BTW this is the Herman Cain award. If you reddit, check it out.

WTF is wrong with people like you? Seriously did you even read the OP you muppet.

She died because of the CURRENT STANDARD OF CARE THAT KILLS PEOPLE, not Ivermectin that she wasn't given.

##ingclown.

a reply to: Lumenari

Scary stuff. Is it mostly the mRNA vaccines?

Would be good to find out if this is also happening in the unvaccinated who have had cvid too. I'm sure someone is doing that.

ETA: Does your sister have an opinion on Ivermectin? And the liability part of the off-label issue?

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Why arent we "mandating" illegals to get the vaccine if it is safe and FDA approved?

Same reason we aren't mandating Americans receive it? Unless they work for an employer with over 100 employees.

If "illegals" work for an employer with over 100 employees they will have to receive it.

It's a public safety issue.

First of all, who is “we”?

Are you on the illegitimate guy’s payroll that’s sitting in the WH pushing his unconstitutional mandates?

Anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that the unvetted illegals pouring over the border from who the freak knows where, should be the first ones to get it.

But I guess he doesn’t want to piss off the Dems future illegal voting illegals with an unapproved, makeshift “vaccine”.

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
Not giving it to them at all.

That video doesn't say what you say it says. They're not requiring it for them, just like you and I are not required to get it.

a reply to: frogs453

Because, in the end everyone is scared?

People shouldn't die for their mistakes and wrong choices, although it happens everyday. That's sad but it's reality.

For someone who’s single OP suggests they are not a liberal H sure seems to have a liberal agenda.
A quote....
“So much for crazy liberals; here we might have a someone on the right side of the isle taking ideas right out of ISIS' playbook.“

The issue is lack of treatment the woman received.

reply to: PraetorianAZ

a reply to: Nyiah

Just read this after I posted the above. Exactly.

The same should apply to any experimental drug. Sign a waiver and try.

Do you feel the same self righteous glory lording over every death that is easily preventable or just the ones that are the TV buzz word topics of the day?

Do you lord over people demanding they change their diet and exercise more? Surely you do seeing as you see yourself intellectually superior enough to hand awards to those you deem ignorant and fat kills more then covid could ever dream of.

At least the new norm exposes those among us who easily and arbitrarily deem others worthy death. Punch the Nazi in the mirror for me.

a reply to: SirHardHarry

originally posted by: SirHardHarry

But hey, if you guys want to take a livestock dewormer instead of an FDA approved vaccine, knock yourselves out.

Ivermectin is a human medicine you idiot. There's a version of it for treating horses as well, but it's a totally differnt dosage. Get your facts straight.