So what's really going on here?? Makes no sense!

a reply to: HawkEyi

Resources are owned by those that can fight and hold them.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

The Big Picture is a far more complex game than most imagine.

Russia is only about 150 million people sitting on massive reserves of all kinds of stuff that China would give up 500 million people to have...

EXCEPT for the fact that those 150 million Russians are sitting on 10x the number of nukes that China is, AND China doesn't have anywhere near the guided missile technology that Russia does. China might have nukes, but they could go anywhere. China is in the infancy of their space program, and they're batting about .300. Russia and the US can put a nuke on your front lawn...and China would be lucky to hit your state, let alone your city.

Don't forget, Russia and the US had the benefit of testing all their guidance technology before the SALT and START treaties. China didn't. Just within the past couple years it was a big deal when one of their diesel boats successfully "launched" a SLBM. It didn't make news because they did anything other than "launch" it, not that it hit anywhere in particular. China doesn't have anywhere near the US, or Russian, sub-sea navigation capabilities, and they are trying to do it with diesel boats, which are indeed quiet, but they have to come up for air, and to geo-position themselves. US and Russian nuke boats don't have to do that.

China is no match!

On the ground, China would be a formidable foe, but in the water and in the skies they are no match...not even close!

Our ICBMs aren’t more accurate than Chinese ICBMs because the Chinese have our guidance systems. I remember when Chinese ICBMs always blew up on launch. Then something changed. Bill Clinton got elected. And did you really think Commerce Secretary Ron Brown died in a weather-related plane accident? Brown was set to testify to Congress that Clinton gave the okay to sell China 50 laser ring gyroscopes; according to the CEO of Loral (the gyroscopes manufacturer) during Congressional testimony, Brown told him that the presidents signature authorizing the sale was forthcoming and to go ahead and ship the sets to China. He did. Clinton never sent the letter with his signature which would’ve removed the gyroscopes from the Blacklist.

This isn’t my thread, so I’ll leave it at that. There’s more out there if you look.

fromthetrenchesworldreport.com...

“In April 1998 Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-California) disclosed detailed information that U.S. aerospace companies had helped China improve its strategic nuclear missiles as part of a major ICBM modernization effort. The named companies were listed as Loral Space & Communications Ltd., Hughes Electronics, and Motorola as supplying the Chinese with space launch technology which China used to improve its nuclear missiles.

Congressman Rohrabacher went on to say: “There is ample evidence that American technology was transferred to this hostile potential enemy of the United States… (providing) the Communist Chinese the guidance needed to upgrade and perfect highly sophisticated weapons systems, increasing the reliability and capability of Communist Chinese rockets…”

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It looks like you're taking my suggestion (referring back to your OP regarding A Hypothetical Question...) and, as any good chef would do, you've set up your "Mis en place".

It unfortunate that so many have taken to focus their responses to your inquiry one just one or another of the ingredients (ideology, fear of control/authority, money, etc) and not taken into consideration the sum of the ingredients on the table. But people do tend to stick to their "comfort foods" in times of (perceived) stress.

Prior to COVID, prior to Trump, prior even to 9/11, these boards were rife with various "flavors" of "doom porn" from a multitude of potential cataclysmic sources. Post were dripping with various survival strategies and scenarios. There was also a whole pantry-load of wanna be seers and prophets, each with their own recipe for "what was to come".

Then the Plague hit. The world economy hit a concrete wall at 150MPH, and most people, even those who claimed to be prepared for "The End of the World", suddenly realized that they weren't wearing seat belts.

The souffle went splat! And the world we knew collapsed. Many wanted to believe that everything would soon be back to "normal", they wander around, dazed, like trauma victims, not realizing that their guts are spilling out on the ground like sweetmeats in a butcher's display case.


What really happened?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, after all.


The desire, the need, the desperate longing to try to make "sense" of momentous traumatic events, to ascribe meaning, or at least blame, to the things that scare us and hurt us, is merely an attempt by us to "control" the chaos we perceive.

It won't work. Surfers know you don't control the wave, you can't bend it to your will. You have to let the wave "tell" you what it wants to do, and then you ride its flow.

So, no one's in control (though I imagine there are many who would like to think they are), there is no "Cabal" pulling the strings, for if there was one, there would be many, and, inevitably their strings would be pulling each other apart.

It's not about "population control" or "culling the herd" because, similarly it is all too easy for today's "culler" to become tomorrow's culled.

It's not about Money because really, money is just a concept whose meaning is frangible, as we've all just witnessed with our own eyes through the multiple "bailouts" issued in various forms by those who, supposedly, determine the "value" of the world's currency.

I think the "dish" we are being offered is, instead, something very "nouveau cuisine", deconstructed to the point that many of us hardly recognize what has been plated as "food" at all.

The choice is to eat, or starve.

Both options carry their own risks.

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

All good points! But I think you left one possibility out: the Antichrist and the launch of his Beast system. Yeah, yeah, I know…you were looking for a LOGICAL explanation.

This actually is the most logical explanation...

a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

This guy got his second jab, and the injection site is glowing under blue light, and down his arm, a vein lights up, he is either having a laugh. Or seriously worried. www.bitchute.com...

a reply to: Klassified

They definitely know how to play the FeelGood word game!

I do suspect that many involved genuinely believe the marketing. I cant imagine they would have been able to achieve the social momentum they have otherwise.

I would be slacking in my responsibilities if I didnt also remind folks that there are alternative paths. Not only to avoid absolute centralized control, but truly build towards something that would be quite extraordinary. Seems like an obvious choice, but unawareness of this choice surpasses even that of the unawareness of the situation with these organizations.

Several aces up the sleeve though, namely the rapidity and relative ease of just buying some stuff on amazon and ebay. And, that it ends up creating a better world even for those that think they benefit most from the centralization.

Seems like an obvious choice, for everyone involved. But, here we are..

a reply to: anonentity

Well without us or with just a few of us their resources and wealth would be dwindling if anything useless. Specially if money becomes digital.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Putin did say this year that he isnt scared, he also said that if Russia or its military attacks one navy ship the west wouldnt attack back because they know the risks. He knows the TPTB.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

China is no match!

On the ground, China would be a formidable foe, but in the water and in the skies they are no match...not even close!

IDK 600 million in Russia would still be tough for Russia, actually I think Chinese has India to worry about. It seems the Chinese soldiers are more soy boy than what people expected.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk


NWO? - I suppose it's possible, but then the 'vaccines' would all be the same, and they're not, not even in he US. Plus, there would have to be some grand wizard coordinator of all this and the entire world would have to be in agreement with them/it/him, etc.

There is no one-entity running the show, it's just a natural process.

The inter-connectedness (globalization) is of our own making.



Influencing one element to get a result at an other element would be impossible with such a dynamic system. Not even chaos theory can help you here since people are just too random.

Best we've got is evil men profiting from outcomes, nobody is behind the wheel.

Just roll with the waves.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Exactly, and then there's India, knocking on China's south western door.

Additionally, China doesn't have 600 million troops to commit to Russia, or even 600 million troops period. And, Putin doesn't need 100 million to defend the Russian far east. His force multiplier capability in the east is formidable. Again, he played Russia's cards very carefully around these threats.

a reply to: keukendeur

Interesting graphic! I tend to agree. Although, I do have some observations as well.

I think there's some hanger's on within that graphic which don't belong. Wannabe's if you will. The green diamonds for example. Plus, the blue diamonds are just a ruse. I think the real players in that graphic are the yellow diamonds and the purple diamonds. I'm not exactly sure how to interpret the red diamonds. Water and food I understand, but not instability and migration. I mean, I understand what they mean literally, but I'm uncertain of how they derive the definition of them. Same for some of the yellow diamonds.

a reply to: HawkEyi

That's just Putin's usual bluster. I don't pay attention to stuff like that; he's just playing the great Russian bear propaganda thing when he talks like that.

He's probably laughing at Biden (and he very much should laugh at Biden, because Biden is a JOKE), but beyond that he has no desire to cross swords with the US Navy. He's not going to take any flak off the US Navy, but he's not going to be the aggressor either.

The only place it gets dicey with Russia is the Arctic, but that's a whole other thread.

a reply to: Serdgiam

That's pretty spooky!

I'm not sure I even want to look at that website too long, I might catch something (or something might catch me)!!

That just bends my mind.

One thing I see locally that I'm not happy about among all of this covid hysteria and mask wearing and no dine-in in many of the local restaurants that I'm sick to death of seeing is that Walmart and Homedepot's have switched all cash and coin exchanger's out for cashless. I'm not happy in the least about it as I like to keep all of my money cashed out and out of banks.

With a cashless society any person can be halted in their tracks immediately as well as have rediculous fees and penalties whittle away at their funds depleting their accounts.
Someone on here can stop it from happening?
I doubt it!

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You forgot an option. A virus was accidentally and irresponsiblility allowed to get out of a controlled facility and has run amuck around the world. And, since it would require a tremendous collective global effort to stop this bloody virus, which is unfortunately quite difficult, it continues to dramatically affect our lives.

Doesn't work either - the ridiculous overreaction to a virus that has such an extremely low CFR for the vast majority, and for which there are safe and effective therapeutics for those who are at high risk - no, it just doesn't add up.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You forgot an option. A virus was accidentally and irresponsiblility allowed to get out of a controlled facility and has run amuck around the world. And, since it would require a tremendous collective global effort to stop this bloody virus, which is unfortunately quite difficult, it continues to dramatically affect our lives.

Doesn't work either - the ridiculous overreaction to a virus that has such an extremely low CFR for the vast majority, and for which there are safe and effective therapeutics for those who are at high risk - no, it just doesn't add up.

Tell that to all those that have died from Covid, as well as those to have died from dangerous alternative medicine. Dont forget their families too. I think the math is simple here.

originally posted by: MDDoxs
Tell that to all those that have died from Covid,

Most didn't die from COVIS, they died from their co-morbidities, because they are extremely unhealthy, because they listen to quacks who have no clue how to achieve natural health.

as well as those to have died from dangerous alternative medicine.

You mean the few dozen who did something really stupid?

As compared to... what... the hundreds of thousands who die from iatrogenic causes (medical errors) every year?

Or all those who get sick and even die from Healthcare-Associated infections (acquired while in the hospital or some other healthcare facility).

Dont forget their families too. I think the math is simple here.

No, not really...

a reply to: tanstaafl

As compared to... what... the hundreds of thousands who die from iatrogenic causes (medical errors) every year?

Are you referring to all medical errors or just those associated to C19?

Yes, medical errors and malpractice definitely harm a good number of people every year. I would also say that the number of people who harm themselves accidently from taking non-prescribed/ alternative medicine/ abusing OTC medicine is also equally high.

You cant dismiss this as an option. It is part of the puzzle.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Definitely spooky, in a sense. More in what they are trying to achieve..

They arent just some random rubes though, and they are very sophisticated. Now, I would hesitate to sign up or download their app.. but they probably already know a great deal about your (and my) behavior already IMO, that is what their whole plan is predicated on; extreme emotions, addiction to them, general behavior, and fomenting tribalism.

Check out some of the names of what they call "co-curators" and "content providers" (scroll down about halfway). You will see some very, very familiar names. However, remember that this site is specifically a platform to track progress of everything else.

Dont underestimate what can be done with decades of time, significant amounts of money & power, and control of information channels! All that needs to be done beyond that is convince those that buy into it that they are "doing the right thing" and are "righteous," and convince the rest to be addicted to emotions and information that delivers emotional hits.

Beware any stories that invoke anger. There are many of them, but anger to their manipulations is like a hammer to a carpenter.