UK to offer covid 19 antibody tests for first time.

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: nonspecific

Is this the first time they're being mass ordered?

I'm sure there were recent tests ( last six weeks) of representative populations who showed that in the UK 93% +/- 2/% of people had C-19 antibodies via vax or infection.

Not sure how accurate the results of that were as it did seem a ridiculously high figure.

ONS: OVER 94% of people in England have c-19 antibodies.

It also says over 90% of adults had a least 1 dose so, allowing for people who had covid, that would be about right.

I am surprised that 90% have had the first dose of the vaccine as I thought we were still far short of that.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Well there's no hope for you then is there

Do you look at everything with such cynicism and doom?



a reply to: TritonTaranis

I just want to be left alone tbh mate

had enough of this farce medical tyranny, happy to move out and settle on an island with like-minded freedom loving people, and take my chances with a 99.997% survivable cold, if that helps you feel safer at all?

but i would like some concessions for making you safer from us vermin disease vectors

we demand to be nuclear armed and zero interference from the vax zombies

originally posted by: nonspecific
Yeah, as I've said before your government is dealing with things pretty different to a lot of the other countries.

Do you still refer the the USA as land of the free over there without laughing?



a reply to: Chalcedony

as long as the left continues it's socialism push, we will just have laughter.

originally posted by: XipeTotex
a reply to: nonspecific

I truly hope this will become available, and that the results of the antibody test will be in the same format as a vax document.

These have been available for free via the Gov.uk website for a long while now to certain people in relevant work roles. I took one earlier this year and the result came back in the form of a normal letter. I know other UK posters who have also done them via popular pharmacies but paid for them, who also got the result in the form of a letter, both positive and negative results.

Yeah they have been available to some and you can pay about 50 quid for one from various companies but this should be a full scale free for anyone thing and with an official confirmation if you test positive for antibodies.



a reply to: MissBeck

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
i wouldn't trust it, given the fraud that the PCR is

it'll just be used to say you don't have natural immunity, and to force the vaccine on you

This is in the UK, 80% of the adult population is already vaxxed. They have one of the highest vax rates in the world.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: nonspecific
Yeah, as I've said before your government is dealing with things pretty different to a lot of the other countries.

Do you still refer the the USA as land of the free over there without laughing?



a reply to: Chalcedony

as long as the left continues it's socialism push, we will just have laughter.

The US is actually pretty unique among first world countries in its stance on "socialism". In most of Europe, for example, the people pushing for significantly higher levels of socialism. The UK, France and Germany in particular, which are top flight economise, most election are centered around which areas of the country will get the most additional extra socialism.

I think this ones so deep down the rabbit hole it's not seen the light of reality for some time now.


a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: nonspecific
If I remember correctly then the actual test base was really low on those estimates so I'd not pay too much attention to them.

It's mostly based on the figures for a small sample group and the number of vaccines administered and I'd guess it's been made to look good for political reasons.

That's just my opinion though, I'd say it's not quite that high yet.




a reply to: Ksihkehe

It seems pretty high to me, but your number of vaxed is higher than ours in the US I believe.

I was thinking the rates even before vaccination was available were probably pushing 40%. I forget the exact dates. It's all spitballing without some testing to back it up, though it was highly educated spitballing. It still earns you detention in science class I guess.

The real loss to disease science in all this is that with antibody testing and without panic pushing vaccines, we could have had the most comprehensive data on how a global pandemic spreads ever generated. It would have informed many decades of scientists and probably saved billions of lives in the future (not to mention trillions of dollars). Instead we had a very anti-science push from the top to panic and make decisions with insufficient information.

I'm not anti-vax. I'm anti-mandate and passport. I'm also against promoting vaccines to populations that aren't in a risk group, there have been massive abuses of informed consent in the US and the push to vaccinate children is criminal. There's a lot more going on behind the scenes that were not being allowed to see.

It's great that you have the testing widely available and antibody tests are accepted instead of vaccination, it's the rational thing to do. I'd have killed to see what the numbers were before the vaccines. I frankly don't think they wanted us to have that information because it would have made it apparent that the vaccine was not worthy of the push it got and mortality was far lower than any of the numbers they've been claiming based on "cases".

originally posted by: Ksihkehe


It's great that you have the testing widely available and antibody tests are accepted instead of vaccination, it's the rational thing to do. I'd have killed to see what the numbers were before the vaccines. I frankly don't think they wanted us to have that information because it would have made it apparent that the vaccine was not worthy of the push it got and mortality was far lower than any of the numbers they've been claiming based on "cases".

But doesn't that just make you wonder even more, why this is being pushed so hard, so fast?
The level of taking away individual rights, forced vaccines, is so anti American, yet here we are, 8/22/2021. If there is some other reason, I think we all need to know what that is. It can't just be for the virus, which is almost just a strong flu.

Hope they didn't buy the Chinese ones, my antibody test stateside basically said I have never been exposed to a corona virus, my flight Doctor said there are two types (paraphrase here) the Chinese ones will say you have never been exposed (despite common cold being a corona virus) the other ones will actually be tuned correctly to show if you have the anti-bodies.

Has the US historically had more trust in the government?

Are they trying to act as has always been done and not realising the trust is now on the whole gone?




a reply to: network dude

Yeah it's not those cheapo useless ones that were kicking about a while back



a reply to: Irishhaf

Just another step towards the universal digital ID.
People who refuse to be vaccinated can use this to access events etc just like the vaccinated.
What about people who refuse to be vaccinatedand don't have antibodies?
Chinese style credits for being a good citizen incoming,Boris Bunter does not have your best interests at heart.
As for the comment about the Tories being our right wing party,don't make me piss myself at this time of day!
Conservative in name only,just not quite as far left as Labour.Gay marriage,green agenda etc etc.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Ksihkehe


It's great that you have the testing widely available and antibody tests are accepted instead of vaccination, it's the rational thing to do. I'd have killed to see what the numbers were before the vaccines. I frankly don't think they wanted us to have that information because it would have made it apparent that the vaccine was not worthy of the push it got and mortality was far lower than any of the numbers they've been claiming based on "cases".

But doesn't that just make you wonder even more, why this is being pushed so hard, so fast?
The level of taking away individual rights, forced vaccines, is so anti American, yet here we are, 8/22/2021. If there is some other reason, I think we all need to know what that is. It can't just be for the virus, which is almost just a strong flu.

Of there's definitely a bunch going on. I think a lot of it is rooted in CYA for that first lie covering for the Wuhan lab. The first lie has cascaded into many increasingly brazen manipulations. I don't think there is as much coordination as everybody thinks. The media was already ready to parrot and amplify the fear. Trump gave Fauci an enormous stage and platform to gain attention, which he then spun into media tours. He's done more damage to public health than COVID at this point. The trust will not come back for decades.

It's shocking that it happened to the degree it did, but public health wanting to be Nazis is a natural side effect of the same behavior from the radical left. Public health is infested with alt-left ideologues. There's still plenty of fine people, but it's heavily influenced by far left ideas.

This is actually the fault of the right-wing in my opinion and I'm not even being sarcastic. During the AIDS crisis public health was going into bath houses and gay clubs to try gaining some level of trust with that community. The right was just, the right. This was back when gays had a legitimate claim to widespread and open discrimination, mostly from the right. The right has always also been against needle exchanges, which is a completely irrational stance. Now, of course, the right is nowhere to be seen in public health policy and we have cities literally providing places for junkies to shoot up.

The right alienated themselves from public health and public health simply moved with the left into what they've now become. Race-baiting, Antifa, identity politics, and whatever the foreign communists are pushing this week. If the right wants to stop the gradual takeover of the entire system they need to change their attitudes.

The irony is, and I haven't looked this up, but I'm willing to bet during the AIDS crisis there was a faction from the right trying to order the closure of gay clubs, bath houses, and needle exchanges. Oh, how the times have changed.

ETA a reply to: nonspecific

This also touches on some of your question.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Has the US historically had more trust in the government?

Are they trying to act as has always been done and not realising the trust is now on the whole gone?




a reply to: network dude

that's a fuzzy answer. I can show you quite a few examples where the Trust was abused and "the government" did some bad things for their gain at the expense of the public. So for those who know of those things, trust may not be in the 90% range or even 80%.

But if you look at how hard this is being pushed, and know that it's free, just doesn't look right. It's not yet FDA approved, and already it's being used to force people to take the shot, or not do what they used to do. Restricting rights. When asked about mandatory vaccinations, Biden said, "we are looking into that to see of it's legal".

But for those who do "science", there are a few of them who understand what the old term "heard immunity" was actually about. Inoculate all you can, and for those who get the sickness and get over it, they have the natural protection. But that's changed now, the Wuhan flu is something totally new, well, kind of since we don't know for sure it came from a lab, wink wink, nudge, nudge.

Something about it seems wrong, and gives me pause to believe it's all in the best interest of the public.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Has the US historically had more trust in the government?

Are they trying to act as has always been done and not realising the trust is now on the whole gone?




a reply to: network dude

A good number of us watched how republicans were and are treated by the Government and how our MSM is just a propaganda arm for the left, which doesn't help lend any credibility to the government on it's own, you just can't do things like this, and expect everyone to love and trust you. Hell, I'm a republican who owns guns, I must be a domestic terrorist. It used to be that being patriotic and loving your home country was a good thing, now, you get put on a list. Government trust is on the decline, and them trying to FORCE this vaccine program on us pushed that trust the wrong way.

There is a better way to do this, and like most things associated with our current leadership, they are gong the opposite direction, and screwing up the country at a break neck pace.

For better understanding, look at the thread you did here, then look for that info from US sources.

It's a good move, but 28 days seems too short a time.

We need to know if the antibodies remain several months after also.

This kind of test will let us know one way or another.

just heard on the BBC that you can only get an antibody test IF you've tested positive for Corona.
What a heap of #,what about the people who refuse to play the PCR game?
With all the false positive I will tell you now how it'll go-''you don't have anti bodies,go get your vaccine.''
This government is nothing but predictable.

Who wanted a unified Europe and what party's name included socialism?
Who won WW2 in reality?
What Country acts as de-facto leader of said European Union?

a reply to: AaarghZombies