UK to offer covid 19 antibody tests for first time.

I've seen a lot of talk about why natural imunity is not being addressed as a viable alternative to a vaccine.

I saw a while back that the UK had placed orders for large volumes of antibody test kits and it looks like it's rolling out soon.

Anyone testing for covid 19 will be offered antibody testing which is delivered by post in the form of two kits, one done asap and the other 28 days later then sent off for testing.

As the US is not currently offering this it will give a good insight into the numbers once they start coming in.

www.itv.com...

i wouldn't trust it, given the fraud that the PCR is

it'll just be used to say you don't have natural immunity, and to force the vaccine on you

originally posted by: nonspecific
I've seen a lot of talk about why natural imunity is not being addressed as a viable alternative to a vaccine.

I saw a while back that the UK had placed orders for large volumes of antibody test kits and it looks like it's rolling out soon.

Anyone testing for covid 19 will be offered antibody testing which is delivered by post in the form of two kits, one done asap and the other 28 days later then sent off for testing.

As the US is not currently offering this it will give a good insight into the numbers once they start coming in.

www.itv.com...

Sounds reasonable. Wish they did it here in NZ.

I think they decided that PCR was the most accurate and that antibody and home testing could be misunderstood and therefore cause more issues allowing the transmission of the disease.

But they use antibody testing on wastewater here.

a reply to: nonspecific

I've seen a lot of talk about why natural imunity is not being addressed as a viable alternative to a vaccine.

www.cdc.gov...

According to the US CDC,

Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19 because: Research has not yet shown how long you are protected from getting COVID-19 again after you recover from COVID-19. Vaccination helps protect you even if you’ve already had COVID-19. Evidence is emerging that people get better protection by being fully vaccinated compared with having had COVID-19. One study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than 2 times as likely than fully vaccinated people to get COVID-19 again. If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you should wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Talk to your doctor if you are unsure what treatments you received or if you have more questions about getting a COVID-19 vaccine. If you or your child has a history of multisystem inflammatory syndrome in adults or children (MIS-A or MIS-C), consider delaying vaccination until you or your child have recovered from being sick and for 90 days after the date of diagnosis of MIS-A or MIS-C. Learn more about the clinical considerations for people with a history of multisystem MIS-C or MIS-A. Experts are still learning more about how long vaccines protect against COVID-19. CDC will keep the public informed as new evidence becomes available.

So antibodies don't matter in the US. Everyone just needs to take the shot because it may be better than natural antibodies.

Well there's no hope for you then is there

Do you look at everything with such cynicism and doom?



a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yeah, as I've said before your government is dealing with things pretty different to a lot of the other countries.

Do you still refer the the USA as land of the free over there without laughing?



a reply to: Chalcedony

a reply to: nonspecific

This actually sounds like a good idea.

Also this is the reason why there will be no large scale testing of this kind.

They sell single use quicktest devices at the local supermarket here for 3.99 euros a pop.This virus would be an excellent opportunity for government agencies worldwide to acquire DNA on a grand scale. I'm not wearing a tin-foil hat today.

ETA The test here doesn't need sending anywhere for "processing".

It is a good idea but we have nationalised health remember?

The aim of healthcare in the UK is to give everyone the best healthcare possible and if you want to know if you are already producing antibodies you should be able to.

I can't find the link right now but they said the other week that a positive antibody test would be valid in any situation proof of vaccine was required, large events, certain ocupations or whatnot.



a reply to: XipeTotex

What for?

Why would they want to have everyone give DNA unlawfully?


It couldn't be used for anything legal could it.


a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

a reply to: nonspecific

Some of this stuff seems illogical. Nope. Land of the free, home of the brave...not so much anymore. I was just adding my 2c because a lot of people do ask this question and this is why in America, at least.

a reply to: nonspecific

Is this the first time they're being mass ordered?

I'm sure there were recent tests ( last six weeks) of representative populations who showed that in the UK 93% +/- 2/% of people had C-19 antibodies via vax or infection.

Not sure how accurate the results of that were as it did seem a ridiculously high figure.

ONS: OVER 94% of people in England have c-19 antibodies.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that up until now it's been all based on sample groups.

Test a few thousand at random and it gives a rough idea of the numbers.

This is something like 150 million quids worth of tests that will mean individuals will he able to test if they choose.to and receive a confirmation result.



a reply to: bastion

originally posted by: nonspecific
It is a good idea but we have nationalised health remember?

The aim of healthcare in the UK is to give everyone the best healthcare possible and if you want to know if you are already producing antibodies you should be able to.

I can't find the link right now but they said the other week that a positive antibody test would be valid in any situation proof of vaccine was required, large events, certain ocupations or whatnot.



a reply to: XipeTotex

I wonder how will that work out, would imagine if you stood in line for a nightclub for example, and try to show a security guard anything other than a covid/green whatever pass, they will tell you to get lost.

A friend could not get the vaccine because he had some allergy reason or something, preventing him to get the vax, so he went to this music festival and he had is condition printed out, he also already had covid, the security kept bothering him because he did not have the vax certificate, they were brainstorming on how to mark him so that other security guards would know he is exempt. Eventually he just left and went home because he was just stuck with the security all the time.

originally posted by: nonspecific

What for?

Why would they want to have everyone give DNA unlawfully?


It couldn't be used for anything legal could it.


a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

What for? Just in case.

Give unlawfully? What do you think is on the swab?

Legal you say. people are jumping to get in line voluntarily.

As I said I can't find the info right now bit I'm 99 percent sure it definitely said that a positive antibody test would be treated the same as a vaccine cert in any situation.

They even said it was because they know some people are unable to have a vaccine and others just don't want to.

We are not as evil as you'd think and bear in mind this is our right wing party in charge at the moment.


a reply to: XipeTotex

So they will spend 150 million quid to covertly get about 15-20 percent of the populations DNA on file just in case?

Seems a bit pointless to me but I suppose if you are of a paranoid persuasion it's something you could envisage.



a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

a reply to: nonspecific

I truly hope this will become available, and that the results of the antibody test will be in the same format as a vax document.

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: nonspecific

Is this the first time they're being mass ordered?

I'm sure there were recent tests ( last six weeks) of representative populations who showed that in the UK 93% +/- 2/% of people had C-19 antibodies via vax or infection.

Not sure how accurate the results of that were as it did seem a ridiculously high figure.

ONS: OVER 94% of people in England have c-19 antibodies.

It's higher than I thought it would be, but I expect it's also nearly that high everywhere with fairly tight populations. Maybe not as much in flyover country. The virus was around before it was "discovered". They'll never know how long, but it was long before we got word of it. Diseases with similar profiles to common existing diseases can go undetected for quite some time.

If the number of people that had COVID and never knew it was actually discovered the percentage mortality would drop significantly. That's the last thing they want because it doesn't feed fear porn.

It's one of the reasons that it's absurd to have vaccine mandates.

They aren't doing antibody testing in the US because pharma got their check and now they need to justify the vaccines that were rushed through based on false projections and crappy administration of our nation public health response. That, and Fauci loves attention.

If I remember correctly then the actual test base was really low on those estimates so I'd not pay too much attention to them.

It's mostly based on the figures for a small sample group and the number of vaccines administered and I'd guess it's been made to look good for political reasons.

That's just my opinion though, I'd say it's not quite that high yet.




a reply to: Ksihkehe