UK Parliament Holds Joe Biden in Contempt and the Details Are Disturbing

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: infolurker

Has there been an official statement on this yet? Something that can easily be spread around to the masses?

Just a few news stories:

freebeacon.com...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.bbc.com...

redstate.com...

a reply to: infolurker

Why isn't it on CNN? That's where I get all my news :|

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: infolurker

Why isn't it on CNN? That's where I get all my news :|

Cos this is in England where our views don't matter?

the uk government were always not a fan of Trump.......hows that worked out for them under the new Administration lmao

originally posted by: infolurker
Yes, Joe will lead the free world and bring trust and confidence back to our allies. How is that going for us so far? When the UK, one of our best allies publicly denounces your incompetency, that is not a good sign.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

redstate.com...

The embarrassment on the world stage continues under Joe Biden. Following the total collapse of Afghanistan and while in the midst of an ongoing, dangerously chaotic evacuation, the UK Parliament has voted to hold the President of the United States in contempt.

Biden had not spoken to any world leaders about the pullout from Afghanistan. A dereliction of duty at that level is hard to fathom, though, it’s become commonplace for a president who continues to run to Delaware instead of, you know, being president.

Following Sullivan’s jaw-dropping admission, Biden apparently did talk to UK PM Boris Johnson. Unfortunately, it took 36 hours for the president to get around to answering the call, though.

The United States is in a precarious position, disdained by our allies and unable to strike fear into our adversaries. Despite being assured that was going to be the result of Trump’s presidency by the same mediocre experts who never get anything right, the country came out of his four years stronger and more respected around the globe. It’s only taken seven months for Biden to tear all that down.

 

This is NOT the Mud Pit!!!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Akaspeedy

We pretty much think that it's one clown show after another.

Guessing you don't really follow current affairs over here.

From Freeborn a reply to: Thoughtcrime “But the thread is about the UK Parliament and as such it can not hold Joe Biden - a foreign national who has not committed a crime in the UK - 'in contempt'. But individual members of Parliament can express their personal contempt for Joe Biden. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the US and its legal system.


Whoa, who, WHOA! Relax, Francis….

I was asking him POLITELY, with an attempt at humor, if the U.K. has similar laws to the U.S. regarding bodies politic finding an individual in “Contempt”. Don’t get angry at me if your reading comprehension is sub par.

“It has nothing whatsoever to do with the US and its legal system.”
Maybe not our legal system, but it has EVERYTHING to do with our poor excuse of a president. So yeah…mine was a relevant question.

“I'd suggest carpy knows what he is talking about - considerably more so than you or I - as he is a practising lawyer of English Law.”
Show me where I said OldCarpy DIDN’T know what he was talking about. I’ll wait.

considerably more so than you or I
While I don’t claim to be a barrister or lawyer (hence, my question to HIM), I would advise you in future to speak for yourself.

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I see articles in which Parliament 'condemns' Biden (and PM Johnson) but nothing about a formal 'contempt' vote.

www.reuters.com...

British lawmakers vented their anger on Wednesday at Prime Minister Boris Johnson and U.S. President Joe Biden over the collapse of Afghanistan into Taliban hands, calling it a failure of intelligence, leadership and moral duty.

I think you misunderstand "contempt". It's not a legal thing.

If I’m not mistaken Old Carpy, your in the U.K.? Here in the former Colonies, “contempt” IS a “legal thing”, Baby! Reporters can be held “in contempt of court” for refusing to divulge their sources; politicians (like former Attorney General of the U.S. Eric Holder) can be held “in contempt of Congress”. Not sure if you folks have a similar legal concept.

Look. "Contempt" is a word. It was not used in our Parliament in a legalistic sense.

They were basically saying that Biden's policy was beneath contempt.

As in shameful. Rubbish. Etc.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I see articles in which Parliament 'condemns' Biden (and PM Johnson) but nothing about a formal 'contempt' vote.

www.reuters.com...

British lawmakers vented their anger on Wednesday at Prime Minister Boris Johnson and U.S. President Joe Biden over the collapse of Afghanistan into Taliban hands, calling it a failure of intelligence, leadership and moral duty.

I think you misunderstand "contempt". It's not a legal thing.

If I’m not mistaken Old Carpy, your in the U.K.? Here in the former Colonies, “contempt” IS a “legal thing”, Baby! Reporters can be held “in contempt of court” for refusing to divulge their sources; politicians (like former Attorney General of the U.S. Eric Holder) can be held “in contempt of Congress”. Not sure if you folks have a similar legal concept.

Look. "Contempt" is a word. It was not used in our Parliament in a legalistic sense.

They were basically saying that Biden's policy was beneath contempt.

As in shameful. Rubbish. Etc.

Yes, I too speak-a de English…. I recognize the word “contempt”. I was just asking if you guys have a similar legal concept regarding that word, when used in Parliament. In a Congress, when that word is used (under certain circumstances) it can have legal ramifications. Thanks for clarifying.

And FWIW… “Contempt” doesn’t go far enough to describe Biden’s actions.

In the UK you can be held "in contempt of court" but I think that's only applicable in an actual court of law.

It's the same word and meaning here as far as I understand.

www.gov.uk...



a reply to: Thoughtcrime

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I see articles in which Parliament 'condemns' Biden (and PM Johnson) but nothing about a formal 'contempt' vote.

www.reuters.com...

British lawmakers vented their anger on Wednesday at Prime Minister Boris Johnson and U.S. President Joe Biden over the collapse of Afghanistan into Taliban hands, calling it a failure of intelligence, leadership and moral duty.

I think you misunderstand "contempt". It's not a legal thing.

If I’m not mistaken Old Carpy, your in the U.K.? Here in the former Colonies, “contempt” IS a “legal thing”, Baby! Reporters can be held “in contempt of court” for refusing to divulge their sources; politicians (like former Attorney General of the U.S. Eric Holder) can be held “in contempt of Congress”. Not sure if you folks have a similar legal concept.

Look. "Contempt" is a word. It was not used in our Parliament in a legalistic sense.

They were basically saying that Biden's policy was beneath contempt.

As in shameful. Rubbish. Etc.

Yes, I too speak-a de English…. I recognize the word “contempt”. I was just asking if you guys have a similar legal concept regarding that word, when used in Parliament. In a Congress, when that word is used (under certain circumstances) it can have legal ramifications. Thanks for clarifying.

And FWIW… “Contempt” doesn’t go far enough to describe Biden’s actions.

Yes, no legal ramifications.

Unfortunately.

Blair, Bush etc. Much blood on their hands too.

To see Bliar pop up and express an opinion, contempt does not even come close......

Thanks again! Cheers!


I agree. Too much blood has been spilled there. And now the politicians are whistling past the graveyard. F—

originally posted by: nonspecific
In the UK you can be held "in contempt of court" but I think that's only applicable in an actual court of law.

It's the same word and meaning here as far as I understand.

www.gov.uk...



a reply to: Thoughtcrime

Thanks for link! Yes, I was asking about the meaning in a court of law, not the everyday patois.

Not sure you I get what you mean to my post….the uk government weren’t particularly fans of trump……now they have Biden, and the situation is worse……out of the frying pan and into the fire……was what I was basically referring to….

……a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I think the issue is the US in general sadly.

I'm sure we used to have some common ground and a decent relationship but these past few years it's gone kinda pear shaped.


a reply to: Akaspeedy

a reply to: Akaspeedy

Not sure what you are not understanding about my reply? As in they are all clowns?

Sorry if that does not accord with your particular prejudice.

Went downhill after the bush/blair years IMO……I see Blair’s stoking the fires again though, but this time he’s not siding with the latest potus lmao……probably got a new book to sell or some stocks somewhere that need a boost to raise his profits a reply to: nonspecific

a reply to: Thoughtcrime

If I was 'angry' I assure you, you would know.
I'm not 'angry', far from it.

Just pointing a couple of things out.

I'd also suggest that I have quite a good understanding of the English language and my comprehension skills are ok.

Show me where I said OldCarpy DIDN’T know what he was talking about. I’ll wait.

"Here in the former Colonies, “contempt” IS a “legal thing”, Baby! "

Sort of implies that carpy was wrong when he said that 'contempt' was not a legal thing.

I would advise you in future to speak for yourself.

Sorry mate, I'm not very good at taking advice from random strangers on the internet.

I notice you're a new member so I'll give a certain amount of leeway on this....ATS is a public site and people are free - even actively encouraged - to comment on anything they wish to provided they observe site T&C's.
I find it quite humorous when new members try to teach me about ATS posting etiquette.

So, with all due respect, I'll continue posting on and replying to whatever I see fit to.

Now there was no insult or anything intended in my first reply to you and similarly there is no intent in this one.
Please don't take it that there is.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Thoughtcrime

If I was 'angry' I assure you, you would know.
I'm not 'angry', far from it.

Just pointing a couple of things out.

I'd also suggest that I have quite a good understanding of the English language and my comprehension skills are ok.

Show me where I said OldCarpy DIDN’T know what he was talking about. I’ll wait.

"Here in the former Colonies, “contempt” IS a “legal thing”, Baby! "

Sort of implies that carpy was wrong when he said that 'contempt' was not a legal thing.

I would advise you in future to speak for yourself.

Sorry mate, I'm not very good at taking advice from random strangers on the internet.

I notice you're a new member so I'll give a certain amount of leeway on this....ATS is a public site and people are free - even actively encouraged - to comment on anything they wish to provided they observe site T&C's.
I find it quite humorous when new members try to teach me about ATS posting etiquette.

So, with all due respect, I'll continue posting on and replying to whatever I see fit to.

Now there was no insult or anything intended in my first reply to you and similarly there is no intent in this one.
Please don't take it that there is.

"With all due respect". When lawyers say that to eachother it means "I spit on your argument"

As for "With the greatest possible respect"? Well, that's fighting talk.....

a reply to: Freeborn

On the subject of this thread and legal meanings here is a case I often refer my opponents to:

"Arkell v. Pressdram – Letters of Note" lettersofnote.com...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

"With all due respect". When lawyers say that to eachother it means "I spit on your argument"

As for "With the greatest possible respect"? Well, that's fighting talk.....

I've learnt a few things over the years from the legal profession.🤣

And classic Private Eye.