Lab Founder Shows "Vaccine" Spike Protein Damages Vital Organs

I think the idea of mRNA tech is very fascinating. However, I don't think it worked for these "vaccines" and I think there is still a very long way to go before it's actually useful for humanity.

Perhaps one day, we can cast aside budgets and dollars which seems to be the only driver of modern medicine these days.

Perhaps one day, we can even overcome the depressing state of political and governmental affairs which muddy the waters of practically anything for human freedom and development.

That said, I truly think the REAL conspiracy theorists are those who:

1. Believe mainstream media is truth.
2. Believe politicians represent the people.
3. Believe billionaires will fix everything.

originally posted by: MrNewWorldOrder
Oh dear, not Dr Cole again! We should assume that he knows how vaccines work in triggering an adaptive immune response, but the more I hear him talk the less confidence I have. I'm at the stage I wouldn't even let him palpate my knee, even with his professional white coat on.

Good thing anyone with half a brain could care less of what you think. Troll much?

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly

Excellent question sir...

PA

You can't have it both ways... In the end no matter how little danger one thinks the virus is to them the vaccine is still 10x less...lol

Now a good argument might be that the virus is so weak that one who is healthy/young really do not need the vaccine, and I can agree with that, but it is still rolling the dice to some degree.

It's kind of like a person see you drinking a 3% beer and tells you everything bad about it. Then they grab a bottle of 109 proof whiskey and guzzle it. You say WTH and they say well its only whiskey...lol

originally posted by: Sparkymedic
I think the idea of mRNA tech is very fascinating. However, I don't think it worked for these "vaccines" and I think there is still a very long way to go before it's actually useful for humanity.

Perhaps one day, we can cast aside budgets and dollars which seems to be the only driver of modern medicine these days.

Perhaps one day, we can even overcome the depressing state of political and governmental affairs which muddy the waters of practically anything for human freedom and development.

That said, I truly think the REAL conspiracy theorists are those who:

1. Believe mainstream media is truth.
2. Believe politicians represent the people.
3. Believe billionaires will fix everything.

We are not seeing the old and sick dying off like we did in the beginning of it all and they are about 85%+ vacced. We are also seeing at the state level that the vast majority in the hospitals are the unvacced. OR is saying 900 in hospitals and less than 2% of them are vacced. So something is working here...

I am using more localized data here because I agree the media, politicians, billionaires are all wacked and really have no real clue to what is going on and only want to push some narrative.

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: Xtrozero

I would pose this. I have a 100 shot revolver with 99 blanks and one live round. I spin the cylinder and hand you the gun. Are you going to put that to your head and pull the trigger? Especially if you had the disease?

And that's based on the current knowledge of the vaccines. What if it turns out there are long term problems later? Instead of one live round it could be 40? Or 80? Worse case scenario is they are all live rounds and the mortality rate is 100% after 5 to 10 years.

Not a good analogy, so are you suggesting 1% of people getting the vac are dying? If the virus was 30% death rate would you get the vaccine? If you are age 75 or higher the virus will most likely kill you or really F you up big time, how about them?

Here is a better one...

It is NOT if but when you will get COVID so lets say you have a COVID gun with 100 rounds and 1 bullet that you will need to pull the trigger on, and I tell you if you first do this 100,000 rounds 1 bullet gun I'll swap the 100 rounds 1 bullet gun for a 10,000 rounds 1 bullet gun, would you do it?

But that isn't even my point. The mRNA and virus BOTH have the spike protein, BUT the virus mass produces it over weeks on end fighting your body, so it FLOODS your body with that same protein, and people say no big deal.

The vaccine has a limited amount of RNA that only last a day, and so there is no mass production over weeks on end, there is one day of limited production of protein well under what being actually infected would be like, but for some reason the protein from the vaccine is so much worst and I want someone to explain that without using 25 "ifs", and people don't even comprehend that the virus itself is really the biggest danger of it all. Its the virus that destroys your lung cells not the RNA or protein, its the virus that can destroy so many you drown in your own fluids as a worst case.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Every day at ATS there are tons of these threads. Seems to me some of you unvaccinated are trying to convince yourself the rest of us are fools.

Get the shot, don't get the shot. I don't really care. But please, we are not dying. We are not getting cancer from these vaccines. Last I heard, you guys were telling us that our blood vessels were being shredded by the spike protein in the vaccine. Not happening.

This is just like election fraud. No real proof of what you are saying, and yet you believe it like gospel. I don't get it.

VAST MAJORITY of Americans are not "pro-vax" or "anti-vax", including myself. The reason for this is because there is LEGITIMATE information, data and REAL documented events that gives credibility and validity to both sides of the issue.

What's amazing is how SO MANY people take a rigid, staunch, unrelenting stance on one side or the other as if they are the arbiter of truth, only acknowledging the info, data and documentation that supports their OPINION.

The REALITY is...NO ONE knows at this point if the vaccines will or will not be proven to be either efficacious or severely harmful to the masses getting the shot. It's too soon to tell what the long term outcomes will be.

To willfully dismiss or ignore info and data supporting either side of the issue, even if it's only anecdotal at this point, is NOT a well-balanced, genuine, unbiased analytical evaluation.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Thanks for your threads, and for bringing this info to light, and to us.

If this thing ever crashes : it's gonna be an epic friggin crash !!!!!

You know : this ?

This runaway bus, going down a curvy mountain pass, with a load of screaming passengers, and failing brakes ?

Anyone fired for not taking a company-mandated Jibber-Jabber™, will have a slam-dunk lawsuit.

Scumbag law-firms will be frothing at the mouth.

Imagine the lawsuits for the poor Vaxx™-injured ?

This can't go-on.

A critical mass will be reached, and then the whole snip-show will explode, like a chemical-factory in Bhopal !




Don't really know anything much, just guessing... LoL !!

originally posted by: NaziriteWarrior

The REALITY is...NO ONE knows at this point if the vaccines will or will not be proven to be either efficacious or severely harmful to the masses getting the shot. It's too soon to tell what the long term outcomes will be.

To willfully dismiss or ignore info and data supporting either side of the issue, even if it's only anecdotal at this point, is NOT a well-balanced, genuine, unbiased analytical evaluation.

Due to the nature of RNA in general I'll go with no long term issues, but nothing is 100%. On the other hand I don't take blood pressure meds because I don't have a blood pressure problem. I see the virus as the same thing in if your age/health puts you in the .000001% bucket of issues why even take the vaccine? Now if you are 75 you really need to take the vaccine...

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
The answer could be found in the Great Reset, WEF even said the corona crisis is a superb reason.

What if we discover two years down the road, regardless the virus or the vaccine, that cancer is going rampant, just like the myocardial heart issues popping up. I personally know someone that got the first jab and then a week later had serious medical problems. After some weeks he was getting better, then he had his second shot because vaccation...

Two days later he's in ICU with myocardial problems, heart inflamation. That was half a year ago and just slowly recovering.

That guy was doing cage fights and served military, now he's a shadow of himself. I see him walking everyday with his walking help. Was it the vaccine? I don't know but cases like these keep stacking up. He never tested positive to my knowledge.

ive had myocarditis from 1 shot. I don’t think I’m getting my second.

originally posted by: macaronicaesar

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
The answer could be found in the Great Reset, WEF even said the corona crisis is a superb reason.

What if we discover two years down the road, regardless the virus or the vaccine, that cancer is going rampant, just like the myocardial heart issues popping up. I personally know someone that got the first jab and then a week later had serious medical problems. After some weeks he was getting better, then he had his second shot because vaccation...

Two days later he's in ICU with myocardial problems, heart inflamation. That was half a year ago and just slowly recovering.

That guy was doing cage fights and served military, now he's a shadow of himself. I see him walking everyday with his walking help. Was it the vaccine? I don't know but cases like these keep stacking up. He never tested positive to my knowledge.

ive had myocarditis from 1 shot. I don’t think I’m getting my second.

What does myocarditis feel like?

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
The vaccine has shown temporary heart inflammation in approximately 500 people out of all the vaccinated. All recover within a few days , occasionally a few weeks with no lasting damage.

However tests on recovered covid patients has shown permanent damage to hearts and lungs, even in those who only had mild symptoms.

So if you have had covid, even mild, it's best to get tests done.

Is this another unqualified "doctor" in the OP?

This isn’t true. The number is much higher and I had it myself.

Dr. Ryan Cole is full of it.

www.factcheck.org...

Deny Ignorance.

actually cole said he was NOT republican democrat or independent....but turned out he was registered republican it goes to the fact that HE LIED it goes to his characrter....but even if you want to let that one go I see you are IGNORING the BIG LIE he told which was he claimed cancer and immuno diseases were caused from the vaccine......people with smarts asked the study he was referring to so he named it...the lead researcher on that study called him OUT!!!!! cole LIED the researcher said there was NO cancer NO immunosupressive diseases

you are ignoring it because it is true and there is nothing else you can say

originally posted by: AndreDoLouro
a reply to: research100

Okay, it is just plain silly to object to Cole saying he is not affiliated with any political party because he is registered as a republican. Being registered to vote in a political party hardly makes you "affiliated" with that party. That is nonsensical. Many people register to political parties they don't even like just to be able to vote in their primaries.

Also, many if not most, Republican leaders have been quite pro-vaccine. Cole objecting to the vaccines is not going to endear himself to many Republicans.

These are the "Trump Warp Speed" vaccines, after all.

Not that it matters, but I am not registered to any political party. They all pretty well disgust me. But I do see that one side, the more left side, of the political spectrum is much more likely to use "party affiliation" as a reason to blanket discount what a person says.

a reply to: Swo0p

Love how factcheck.org is the popular 'go-to' site to smear people going against the controlled narrative on CV.

Doesn't everyone know by now that Factcheck.org is funded by "vaccine" profits?

FactCheck.org’s COVID Project Funded by Foundation with 16 Percent of Assets in J & J Stock

www.abovetopsecret.com...

AGAIN the lead researcher on the paper dr cole named said there was NOTHING in that research paper showing cancer or immo suppressive diseases were caused by the covid vcaxx... what does that have to do with FACT CHECK ???????? I referred to the original source SOURCE .......AGAIN you are deflecting because that is all you have because what I said is true


reply to: IAMTAT

nvm

a reply to: Xtrozero

How about the massive spike protein the virus makes that is at a order of magnitude or more compared to the vaccine? The vaccine is limited in amount and duration that both the mRNA and protein is in your body. The virus for weeks on end is in massive production as it battles your body, so why do people down play the virus and make the vaccine seem like the worst of the two?

When I watched the video last night, he said something like the problem is the spike without the body.

I believe he is talking about the body of the virus.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IAMTAT

None of this sounds good.
If Dr. Cole is correct...we are eventually going to see some very disturbing large-scale medical fallout from these "vaccines".

How about the massive spike protein the virus makes that is at a order of magnitude or more compared to the vaccine? The vaccine is limited in amount and duration that both the mRNA and protein is in your body. The virus for weeks on end is in massive production as it battles your body, so why do people down play the virus and make the vaccine seem like the worst of the two?

The virus enters through the throat and hopefully never reaches the lungs and especially the bloodstream. If it does, Covid becomes very severe.

The spike protein produced via the vaccine, OTOH, has been found in the blood and in all major organs including crossing the blood-brain barrier.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Due to the nature of RNA in general I'll go with no long term issues, but nothing is 100%. On the other hand I don't take blood pressure meds because I don't have a blood pressure problem.

And THAT is common sense. Thank you. I am not as confident as you that the mRNA is harmless, but I hope you are right.

a reply to: AndreDoLouro

I have a few politician friends and let's just say when they started off, they all had the "I'm going to change the world" attitude. But once their careers took off, they learned quickly that there is nothing you can do to change the world. There is keeping your job and following orders or stepping out of line and losing your position in society.

Noone knows where these orders come from. But they are not coming from the mainstream media, youtube doctors fear mongering people, or even politicians you see on tv.

Once you get to a certain level in society, you know there is another level above you. These patterns of control, greed, deception, and domination have existed since time memorial...since the ancient civilizations.

The only answer I have is that it's the "ego" who thinks it is separate from the world manifesting itself. It manifests itself in wars, government tyranny, oppression of the people, etc.

The human ego is not sustainable. As an administrator, I am completely powerless to make any kind of change. But I see the BS in the healthcare industry. Cures are held back in order to make more money from the sick. Doctors often order unnecessary and expensive procedures that harm patients for the bottom line, which is profit. Administrators are the ones who have to keep them in check. An example is it is far safer to perform an endoscopy and colonoscopy the same day then it is to have it in back to back weeks because of the risks of anesthesia (heart failure being one of them). It also saves a lot of money. But 1% of doctors do this. The other 99% will milk your insurance.

We know how to treat Covid. We did it for a year. With dexamethasone. But it is cheap. It doesn't make anyone money. So in 2021, the narrative is it's gotta be the vaccine or nothing at all. Suddenly, hospitals are acting "brand new" again, like we haven't already been here before. Like we haven't already successfully treated millions of patients.

It's all about money.