Lab Founder Shows "Vaccine" Spike Protein Damages Vital Organs

Either that or the stuff getting censored is actual a load of bollocks?

Most of these so called "doctors" making YouTube videos talk a right load of tosh that's not backed up with any real evidence.

You can call me what you like but it's the reality of the situation, they are not even all saying the same things. If they were and more professionals were coming out in agreement not would he different but that's just not happening is it.




a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

originally posted by: nonspecific
But big pharma can't sell their products to dead people can they?

What they ideally want is booster shots and varient upgrades so why give us something that will kill us?

That's terrible business sense




a reply to: NaziriteWarrior

They may not have started out with the intention of harming or killing anyone, but since that is now an ongoing occurrence, they have to take measures to suppress it.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Either that or the stuff getting censored is actual a load of bollocks?

Most of these so called "doctors" making YouTube videos talk a right load of tosh that's not backed up with any real evidence.

You can call me what you like but it's the reality of the situation, they are not even all saying the same things. If they were and more professionals were coming out in agreement not would he different but that's just not happening is it.




a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

Seems like it would be very easy to counter then without censorship.

a reply to: IAMTAT
The CT scan in the video of the heart muscle could have been taken from anyones heart, although they do show inflammation. There is no reference point, except for his word to the audience, that these images were obtained from patients after administration of the covid vaccine. If he were presenting to the audience in a factual manner, he should have gone through each image to explain the patient and their circumstances surrounding the rationale for obtaining the images. But he didn't, which is concerning.
Mitochondria inside of cells change as the cell ages. Some cells in the body die rather than divide and propagate, which is a completely normal process. Taking a picture of the mitochondria in a cell before and after cell division or death will give you a different image. There is no proof from this presenter from the images and no reference points indicating where the images were obtained.
And the crowd goes wild because it's confirming their own bias.
But if you dig deeper not one shred of proof was offered during this presentation, except for the credentials the doctor offered at the beginning to convince the audience he was an authority figure.
Theres just not any evidence here to convince me that what he is saying is true.

So why is the vaccine so bad and the virus is nothing?

The vaccine is a crime against humanity without a doubt... the virus might be...

originally posted by: Ideashavenomother
Yeah,
Keep telling yourself comfy stories

a reply to: Xtrozero

The fact that this right here has so many stars is the reason I can't stand you guys, there was a question asked and all you can do is send a one liner back?

Do you know how a conversation/debate works, oh wait you probably watched Trump in the debates and thought that was how you debate, and you are it up.

Your retort makes no sense, he's not telling himself a story he's asking about your story, and why two parts of it don't line up.

soooo what are you basing this on?? where did you get your FACTS? please post links to back up your facts otherwise it is just your opinion

originally posted by: MikhailBakunin

So why is the vaccine so bad and the virus is nothing?

The vaccine is a crime against humanity without a doubt... the virus might be...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: Xtrozero

I would pose this. I have a 100 shot revolver with 99 blanks and one live round. I spin the cylinder and hand you the gun. Are you going to put that to your head and pull the trigger? Especially if you had the disease?

And that's based on the current knowledge of the vaccines. What if it turns out there are long term problems later? Instead of one live round it could be 40? Or 80? Worse case scenario is they are all live rounds and the mortality rate is 100% after 5 to 10 years.

Not a good analogy, so are you suggesting 1% of people getting the vac are dying? If the virus was 30% death rate would you get the vaccine? If you are age 75 or higher the virus will most likely kill you or really F you up big time, how about them?

Here is a better one...

It is NOT if but when you will get COVID so lets say you have a COVID gun with 100 rounds and 1 bullet that you will need to pull the trigger on, and I tell you if you first do this 100,000 rounds 1 bullet gun I'll swap the 100 rounds 1 bullet gun for a 10,000 rounds 1 bullet gun, would you do it?

But that isn't even my point. The mRNA and virus BOTH have the spike protein, BUT the virus mass produces it over weeks on end fighting your body, so it FLOODS your body with that same protein, and people say no big deal.

The vaccine has a limited amount of RNA that only last a day, and so there is no mass production over weeks on end, there is one day of limited production of protein well under what being actually infected would be like, but for some reason the protein from the vaccine is so much worst and I want someone to explain that without using 25 "ifs", and people don't even comprehend that the virus itself is really the biggest danger of it all. Its the virus that destroys your lung cells not the RNA or protein, its the virus that can destroy so many you drown in your own fluids as a worst case.

The idea that the spike protein from the vax is only circulating for 1 day is categorically false. I’m not sure why you keep saying it, but it’s been demonstrated time and time again that this isn’t true.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: macaronicaesar

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
The answer could be found in the Great Reset, WEF even said the corona crisis is a superb reason.

What if we discover two years down the road, regardless the virus or the vaccine, that cancer is going rampant, just like the myocardial heart issues popping up. I personally know someone that got the first jab and then a week later had serious medical problems. After some weeks he was getting better, then he had his second shot because vaccation...

Two days later he's in ICU with myocardial problems, heart inflamation. That was half a year ago and just slowly recovering.

That guy was doing cage fights and served military, now he's a shadow of himself. I see him walking everyday with his walking help. Was it the vaccine? I don't know but cases like these keep stacking up. He never tested positive to my knowledge.

ive had myocarditis from 1 shot. I don’t think I’m getting my second.

What does myocarditis feel like?

I had a rapid heart beat and a general feeling of dull pain in my chest. It wasn’t extremely painful, but I could feel my heart when normally I know I have a heart, but can’t tell it’s there. It’s hard to explain. It wasn’t extremely unpleasant, but it did make me nervous and lasted about 4-5 days. I feel normal now, but I’m not going to flirt with this a second time.

originally posted by: Poofmander

The fact that this right here has so many stars is the reason I can't stand you guys, there was a question asked and all you can do is send a one liner back?

Do you know how a conversation/debate works, oh wait you probably watched Trump in the debates and thought that was how you debate, and you are it up.

Your retort makes no sense, he's not telling himself a story he's asking about your story, and why two parts of it don't line up.

That is the fundamental problem today. People adopt an idea, opinion, belief etc and don't even know what it is about outside a title they read to provide them their confirmation bias. We see it all the time with people protesting who can't even debate one point that they are supporting without going to some labeling, snarky comment etc as their only way to support their side. You bring up one point that kind of shoot holes in their narrative and its defended by screaming in your face that you are a Trumpister, racists, or 18 other ists.

There is no middle ground either with these people either, they are extrema one way and that is where they sit forever.

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

originally posted by: nonspecific
Either that or the stuff getting censored is actual a load of bollocks?

Most of these so called "doctors" making YouTube videos talk a right load of tosh that's not backed up with any real evidence.

You can call me what you like but it's the reality of the situation, they are not even all saying the same things. If they were and more professionals were coming out in agreement not would he different but that's just not happening is it.




a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

Seems like it would be very easy to counter then without censorship.

They already tried fact checking the anti-vaxxers, but the people who were following them are so invested in their ideas that they simply ignored the fact checks or thought that they were part of the conspiracy.

How do you deal with misinformation if everything that you do to correct it is merely seen as being part of the coverup?

Facusi got up on that podium and debunked myth after myth for months, all the MSM did it too, even Fox debunked a whole heap of myths, Factcheck.org, Snopes, all of them tried their level best to set the record straight. This forum is full of people tying to set the record straight. Has any of it even had the slightest impact, other than to convince anti-vaxxers that everybody and their dog is part of the conspiracy.

I've lost track of the number of times that I've seen people explaining that they wear masks for 6-8 hours a day and they haven't suffered oxygen deprivation, so your kids won't either, and ... nothing.

I've seen people explaining the difference between viral mutation and bacterial anti-biotic residence, and ... nothing.

No amount of science and logic and reasoned explanations is helping.

Censorship is the only thing that seems to have any impact. I don't like it. I'd much rather debunk and argument thought science, but when the people you're trying to persuade simply think that you're some kind of shill or member of the NWO, or whatever, you can talk until you pass out and it won't help.

originally posted by: macaronicaesar

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: Xtrozero

I would pose this. I have a 100 shot revolver with 99 blanks and one live round. I spin the cylinder and hand you the gun. Are you going to put that to your head and pull the trigger? Especially if you had the disease?

And that's based on the current knowledge of the vaccines. What if it turns out there are long term problems later? Instead of one live round it could be 40? Or 80? Worse case scenario is they are all live rounds and the mortality rate is 100% after 5 to 10 years.

Not a good analogy, so are you suggesting 1% of people getting the vac are dying? If the virus was 30% death rate would you get the vaccine? If you are age 75 or higher the virus will most likely kill you or really F you up big time, how about them?

Here is a better one...

It is NOT if but when you will get COVID so lets say you have a COVID gun with 100 rounds and 1 bullet that you will need to pull the trigger on, and I tell you if you first do this 100,000 rounds 1 bullet gun I'll swap the 100 rounds 1 bullet gun for a 10,000 rounds 1 bullet gun, would you do it?

But that isn't even my point. The mRNA and virus BOTH have the spike protein, BUT the virus mass produces it over weeks on end fighting your body, so it FLOODS your body with that same protein, and people say no big deal.

The vaccine has a limited amount of RNA that only last a day, and so there is no mass production over weeks on end, there is one day of limited production of protein well under what being actually infected would be like, but for some reason the protein from the vaccine is so much worst and I want someone to explain that without using 25 "ifs", and people don't even comprehend that the virus itself is really the biggest danger of it all. Its the virus that destroys your lung cells not the RNA or protein, its the virus that can destroy so many you drown in your own fluids as a worst case.

The idea that the spike protein from the vax is only circulating for 1 day is categorically false. I’m not sure why you keep saying it, but it’s been demonstrated time and time again that this isn’t true.

One day, two days, even a week. It circulates for a short period of time and has no ability to replicate or to force the body to replicate it. A couple of days is a far cry from what the Anti-vaxxers are suggesting happens.

originally posted by: macaronicaesar
The idea that the spike protein from the vax is only circulating for 1 day is categorically false. I’m not sure why you keep saying it, but it’s been demonstrated time and time again that this isn’t true.

I didn't say that....

I said the RNA last about a day, and that ends the production of the protein. The protein last typically a few days after that, maybe a little more for some people, this is because its the protein your body immune system is triggered on and its the protein it goes after to get rid of. As to circulation, that is a big IF as in the protein needs to somehow get into your circulatory system, so how does it do that as it is not active and not trying to attach to an ACE2 receptor in your organs. They genetically made the protein inert. So whatever may get into your circulatory system is minimal and not doing much unlike the actual virus' proteins

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Itisnowagain

You really should say exactly what you want a link for, I think that you may have deliberately withheld this information so that you can claim that whatever link I give you isn't sufficient. Next time, please say what you want to see.

I'm going to guess at what you want. This link doesn't provide you with all everything, but it contains links to most of it, just click through. For example, it links to pages about the timing and composition of the study and the side efects experienced by the people who participated. It shows clearly that the while main stream vaxxing began in December 2021 actual vaxxing through trials began around 6 months beforehand, and by this time last year pfizer alone had vaxxed around 50,000 people in three tirals. So that's 50,000 people vaxxed for over a year. Well, nearly 50,000 anyway.

Vax details

For more specifics:

www.nature.com...

www.pfizer.com...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

This shows clearly that with this one shot alone people have been being vaxxed for more than a year with no serious side effects of the type described by the OP. Mostly it's just aches and pains.

In case you didn't know, this isn't the shot that caused those blood clots, that was the AstraZeneca vax.

This is just one of half a dozen vaxxes. Most of which have around the same timetable and participation. So we're talking about maybe half a million people who have been vaxxed for over a year when you include all of the other vax trials.

Globally, around a 1 in 3 of all people in the entire world have had at least 1 shot. Around 1 in 4 have had both since December last year. It's been 8 months since that started and no mainstream group has found any of the problems that the OP's link claims to exist. None, not one. And we're talking about some heavy hitting socialist countries in this mix, who'd absolutely nail the drug companies to the wall if there really was a problem.

ourworldindata.org...

The fact that nobody has dragged the Pfizer BOD out and murdered them in the streets is proof enough for me, because this is what would happen if they'd poisoned 100s of millions of people.

I remember when mefloquine, ddt, azt, agent orange were all safe. When you rush to judgement you end up making the worst medical blunders In human history. I named just a handful, but there are plenty more.

a reply to: Xtrozero Everything I have found online says that the protein is estimated to last a few weeks in the body.

Can you provide a source for your claim?
Earlier you said it is in the body just a few days.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

Can you provide a source for your claim?
Earlier you said it is in the body just a few days.

I think you are right, RNA a couple of days and the protein 1 to 2 weeks.

a reply to: Xtrozero
I found 'estimated to be a few weeks'.... that's more than a couple......

Did you find anything that says 1 to 2 weeks?
What did you find?

originally posted by: nonspecific
But big pharma can't sell their products to dead people can they?

What they ideally want is booster shots and varient upgrades so why give us something that will kill us?

That's terrible business sense




a reply to: NaziriteWarrior

I know what you all are saying. Surely, if these vaccines were bad, people would notice by now (the majority would). People would hesitate (those with credentials) and not push them. If this is being pulled off, it would have to essentially have to involve mass mind control, expert manipulation and corruption to the highest degree. It would be the craziest thing to happen in history.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

I found 'estimated to be a few weeks'.... that's more than a couple......

The same site we went to also said this...

Vaccines mostly remain near the site of injection (the arm muscle) and local lymph nodes. This makes sense: Lymph nodes produce white blood cells and antibodies to protect us from disease. A key part of the lymphatic system, lymph nodes also clean up fluids and remove waste materials. Finding pieces of spike protein in the lymph nodes is completely normal, because lymph nodes act as the trash removal service for the body. That means the vaccine did its job (made spike proteins, which caused the creation of antibodies) and will be cleared from the body.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: hombero
Why do I feel fine then if my organs are allegedly so damaged?
a reply to: IAMTAT

What does heart scarring supposed to feel like?

It feels like; Walking 100 yards (length of football field), at a pace somewhat slower than, say 30 years ago, and being nearly winded at the end. Or, times when almost 'out of the blue' I become a bit winded, after doing nothing more than picking a ball up off the floor.

I'm 74, with about half a heart, or so my doctors say. One says my heart doesn't beat so much as it twitches. I'm a heart failure patient, diagnosed some 25 years ago...I'm lucky to be alive right now. I seriously don't need anything that might "F" with my heart.

The days of 'serious' play with my "Puppy" (2.5 YO Wolf Hybrid) ARE GONE! Permanently!

When the heart is damaged, it NEVER heals, and only gets worse.