Open Letter to the Unvaccinated From 8 Doctors

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Rational Discussions entail Origional Thought to Begin with , yours is Surely Lacking here . Take a Dangerous , Unproven , Untested , Substance into your Body because you are Blatantly being Coerced to do so by Unscrupulous Governments while HOPING you will be Just " OK " , and Not having Any SAY about It ? See , there is the Rub Horatio ...........

Okay.
Let's make this a little less personal and a lot more on topic.

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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

So, if you have a PHD in one field that makes you an instant expert in all others?

I don't think so.

If I have a medical condition I'd go to a Medical Doctor. Not someone with a Doctorate in Philosophy or whatever.

Horses for courses, and all that.

After all, 8 Dr/PhDs are worth way more than a trolls opinion. ​

Actually their level of education does make them way smarter than the average person and YES they are experts in other areas because of their training in the one area. We don't study just English for a BA degree or just Calculus for a BS degree on the way to obtaining a PhD.

So, you SHOULD at least listen to all who have a good education when they give you their opinion. Listen with a grain of salt and an open mind. Don't be so open minded you let tyranny get a pass and exclude using logic to do so. Listen but use your own brain and reason based on the facts you can trust.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

By your logic, as I have a Law Degree and am a qualified and practicing Lawyer, you should just take what I say as being true and you should not dare to question me.

Comfortable with that?

No that is your logic. By your logic we should take jabs and do what we are told or we are ass holes.

Guess who the real ass is if that is true and it isn't those calling out fake pandemic and the experimental cure they offer to you that doesn't cure anyone after all.

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

i understand your goal posts are constantly shifting to keep the illusion alive

but all those fully vaccinated humans that died from covid19 would have died worse if they were not vaccinated.

Did you not see the dozens of articles quoting unvaccinated humans last words "i wish i took the vaccine". They knew right then and there on their death bed that had they been vaccinated their death would have been less severe.

Who brought you that report there the same ones who in the media who are constantly repurposing their lies to make us believe the are true? How dare we look at the real data is what I am seeing happening from them aren't you?

I would have to know if they use the faulty Covid testing to declare they had it? Quite likely based on the track record of the media and Feds in this fiasco is that this is all lies with faulty tests faulty reasons for mRNA shots and a history of Big Pharma running our country behind the curtains.

Besides, the ones dying now appear to be the vaccinated in my circle.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

I can get you 8 medical doctors against the vaccinations with no issues at all.

But all the Ph.D.'s against it makes sense since the most highly educated are the most vaccine-hesitant now.
www.upmc.com...

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Not a single MD among the signatories.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Very importantly, its critical to KEEP THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE as the Covid-19 hype and hysteria ramps up (again).

On Saturday, August 14, 2021

238 Americans died from Covid-19.
Source: www.worldometers.info...-deaths-daily

8,159 Americans died from Non-Covid-19 causes.
Source: worldpopulationreview.com...

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Not a single MD among the signatories.

But they sure would proscribed OxyContin back in the day……

a reply to: FyreByrd

Might be a good thing to get an outside opinion if doctors are getting paid to push the vaccine…

Back to the OxyContin as an example.

The financial relationships between pharma payments to doctors and their prescribing habits have been scrutinized for years.

ctmirror.org...

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Ummm i think you are wrong...here is a quote directly from your link.

RN, MSN, PhD Nursing and Public Health

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

So, if you have a PHD in one field that makes you an instant expert in all others?

I don't think so.

If I have a medical condition I'd go to a Medical Doctor. Not someone with a Doctorate in Philosophy or whatever.

Horses for courses, and all that.

The midwit meme is real

Right, okay, no need to have the vaccine if you don’t want it. Just don’t go making other people ill with the choice you make. Darwin will be proven right, sadly.

Then stay away from us unclean unvaccinated people. And wear your mask.

I made a choice at the beginning of this not to treat people as “unclean”. Especially based on having a medical procedure.

I see people have chosen otherwise.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

By your logic, as I have a Law Degree and am a qualified and practicing Lawyer, you should just take what I say as being true and you should not dare to question me.

Comfortable with that?

No that is your logic. By your logic we should take jabs and do what we are told or we are ass holes.

Guess who the real ass is if that is true and it isn't those calling out fake pandemic and the experimental cure they offer to you that doesn't cure anyone after all.

I have never said anything of the sort.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

So, if you have a PHD in one field that makes you an instant expert in all others?

I don't think so.

If I have a medical condition I'd go to a Medical Doctor. Not someone with a Doctorate in Philosophy or whatever.

Horses for courses, and all that.

After all, 8 Dr/PhDs are worth way more than a trolls opinion. ​

Actually their level of education does make them way smarter than the average person and YES they are experts in other areas because of their training in the one area. We don't study just English for a BA degree or just Calculus for a BS degree on the way to obtaining a PhD.

So, you SHOULD at least listen to all who have a good education when they give you their opinion. Listen with a grain of salt and an open mind. Don't be so open minded you let tyranny get a pass and exclude using logic to do so. Listen but use your own brain and reason based on the facts you can trust.

I have a good education, a degree and a professional qualification but you don't listen to me.

Please stop calling me a troll.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Rational Discussions entail Origional Thought to Begin with , yours is Surely Lacking here . Take a Dangerous , Unproven , Untested , Substance into your Body because you are Blatantly being Coerced to do so by Unscrupulous Governments while HOPING you will be Just " OK " , and Not having Any SAY about It ? See , there is the Rub Horatio ...........

Dangerous? Untested? No.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Any time i see somethin like this i like to look at who these "Doctors" actually are.

Angela Durante, PhD She's a Nurse

Denis Rancourt, PhD He is a Physicist

Claus Rinner PhD , he is a Geologist

Laurent Leduc, PhD, couldn't find much but according to this is a Leadership scholar

Donald Welsh, PhD, Finally i get to someone who is actually at a medical school, but he has been discredited

John Zwaagstra, PhD, couldn't find much on John, i think he might be a biotech research scientist.

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting, but this is just like 8 randoms with phd's got together to tell us what they think. I have a mate with a phd in something to do with music, am not gonna ask him for advice about my health.

so it's like 98% of all scientists agree that........

No, it's not. And your response is lazy at best, and insidious at worst.

originally posted by: xstealth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

I can get you 8 medical doctors against the vaccinations with no issues at all.

But all the Ph.D.'s against it makes sense since the most highly educated are the most vaccine-hesitant now.
www.upmc.com...

Your source also says:-

"I remain concerned about reaching the most hesitant subgroup of Americans,” said Mejia. “The only way to end this pandemic for real is to get enough people vaccinated that we can reduce the speed of new variants spreading.”

But that doesn't suit your agenda.......