Open Letter to the Unvaccinated From 8 Doctors

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: SwampFox999

And at the end of the day, be it Fauci or your family physician, what do you call the doctor who graduated at the bottom of his med class? Doctor.

Very good point and i take your point all I am saying is that several of these doctors never actually went to med school.

What about a slew of doctors whose career has been in vaccines? If I said they were wary of it mainly because it's an entirely new vaccine, what would you say?

I would say show me the links.

Show me the accademic articls that justify their caution.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Doesn't change the points they make at all, it's all truth.

If you disagree then that's your choice, but I think you are on the wrong forum at this point bud.

It does change the truth. The title and premise of this thread claims it's by "8 Doctors". They are not (save one) actual Medical Doctors.

Misleading, at best.

Flame away......

They are from a certain point of view, I never said medical doctors in the thread title.

A Doctor of Philosophy (PhD, Ph.D., or DPhil; Latin philosophiae doctor or doctor philosophiae) is the most common degree at the highest academic level awarded following a course of study.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Doesn't change the points they make at all, it's all truth.

If you disagree then that's your choice, but I think you are on the wrong forum at this point bud.

It does change the truth. The title and premise of this thread claims it's by "8 Doctors". They are not (save one) actual Medical Doctors.

Misleading, at best.

Flame away......

They are from a certain point of view, I never said medical doctors in the thread title.

A Doctor of Philosophy (PhD, Ph.D., or DPhil; Latin philosophiae doctor or doctor philosophiae) is the most common degree at the highest academic level awarded following a course of study.

No, you did not. But you didn't clarify it and so it was a tad misleading?

Why should someone with eg a PHD in Geography have any particular weight given to their opinion on clinical/medical matters?

originally posted by: Kocag

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
And this statement before the letter

Control over our bodily integrity may well be the ultimate frontier of the fight to protect civil liberties.

This might be the fight of the 21st century, I really hope we don't lose before we even begin.
We win by just saying, NO!

But that may be really hard to do when you entire means of existence; maybe years of schooling is being threatened.

And to think I had thought it would be over something like drinkable water.

You'll drink what they give you.

If we lose the war over our bodies, anyway.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yeah, you know ... a career spent developing new vaccines which at their base are all designed to essentially do the same thing and being familiar with how that goes and understanding that new ones are prone to more adverse reactions just is meaningless ...

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

They are from a certain point of view, I never said medical doctors in the thread title.

From a certain point of view am a male model.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Doesn't change the points they make at all, it's all truth.

If you disagree then that's your choice, but I think you are on the wrong forum at this point bud.

Av been on the wrong forum for 10 years.

It's a strange lesson in psychology. You're not the only one. There's always John Lithgow hanging around

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Doesn't change the points they make at all, it's all truth.

If you disagree then that's your choice, but I think you are on the wrong forum at this point bud.

It does change the truth. The title and premise of this thread claims it's by "8 Doctors". They are not (save one) actual Medical Doctors.

Misleading, at best.

Flame away......

They are from a certain point of view, I never said medical doctors in the thread title.

A Doctor of Philosophy (PhD, Ph.D., or DPhil; Latin philosophiae doctor or doctor philosophiae) is the most common degree at the highest academic level awarded following a course of study.

Why should someone with eg a PHD in Geography have any particular weight given to their opinion on clinical/medical matters?

Do musicians, movie stars, politicians, and computer geeks fall into this category? Because they sure seem to be getting a lot of opportunities to peddle this snake oil.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

originally posted by: incoserv
]originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
This letter is not at is core about medical advice; it is about basic God granted human rights and essential civil liberties. Your or anybody else's medical opinion (because that's all that there is now as science is dead) does not trump anybody's inherent and essential rights as a free and autonomous human being.

If you can't see that, just line up for your next jab ... and your next ... and your next ... and your next ...

What he said!

Much much better and more on point response than mine...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

So, if you have a PHD in one field that makes you an instant expert in all others?

I don't think so.

If I have a medical condition I'd go to a Medical Doctor. Not someone with a Doctorate in Philosophy or whatever.

Horses for courses, and all that.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

You know what you're right.

Next time i need my ticker checked out i'll go speak to my sons geography teacher.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

By your logic, as I have a Law Degree and am a qualified and practicing Lawyer, you should just take what I say as being true and you should not dare to question me.

Comfortable with that?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

You know what you're right.

Next time i need my ticker checked out i'll go speak to my sons geography teacher.

Next time a country needs health advice, they should go to Bill Gates. Or not

originally posted by: shasta9600

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you are incapable of realizing that these people just may be pretty damn smart - smart enough to already know a whole lot more about the subject than you or I, then you are just ignorant, a fool, or just gaslighting.

You know what you're right.

Next time i need my ticker checked out i'll go speak to my sons geography teacher.

Next time a country needs health advice, they should go to Bill Gates. Or not

And when have i ever endorced running to Bill Gates for expert advice on COVID?

a reply to: MiddleInsite

“If your kid isn't vaccinated, they are not going to school. ”

Only partly true. What’s ACTUALLY the case is “If native born American children aren’t vaccinated, they’re not going to school. Everyone else’s kids are more than welcome.”
I have first-hand experience in this. My kid’s s school called and told me to pick up my kid because he wasn’t vaccinated. He was up to date with everything, but didn’t have his MMR booster at the time; there were questions going around about the MMR vaccine. Seems some batches had been recalled. Naturally, I wasn’t gonna get that junk injected into him.

This was during the first surge of illegal immigrants, during the Obama administration. Catholic Charities and other non-profits were being paid by the U.S. government to ‘sponsor’ un-accompanied minors who made it to the border; they shipped them all over the country, with no serious effort to track them. And thanks to a Supreme Court decision, those kids MUST be allowed to attend public school.

Now, I can make stupid mistakes from time to time, but I’m not dumb…. I’m PRETTY SURE that these kids didn’t cross the Rio Grande with a copy of their immunization records in their pockets—especially those coming from Guatemala, where healthcare is shoddy or non-existent. Remember that wave of fever going around, where about a dozen kids died and thousands of others were permanently paralyzed? I do, ‘cause I was afraid my kid would be exposed to it. And he was. But hey…at least we get to ‘educate’ the worlds kids for free.

originally posted by: Thoughtcrime
a reply to: MiddleInsite

“If your kid isn't vaccinated, they are not going to school. ”

Only partly true. What’s ACTUALLY the case is “If native born American children aren’t vaccinated, they’re not going to school. Everyone else’s kids are more than welcome.”
I have first-hand experience in this. My kid’s s school called and told me to pick up my kid because he wasn’t vaccinated. He was up to date with everything, but didn’t have his MMR booster at the time; there were questions going around about the MMR vaccine. Seems some batches had been recalled. Naturally, I wasn’t gonna get that junk injected into him.

This was during the first surge of illegal immigrants, during the Obama administration. Catholic Charities and other non-profits were being paid by the U.S. government to ‘sponsor’ un-accompanied minors who made it to the border; they shipped them all over the country, with no serious effort to track them. And thanks to a Supreme Court decision, those kids MUST be allowed to attend public school.

Now, I can make stupid mistakes from time to time, but I’m not dumb…. I’m PRETTY SURE that these kids didn’t cross the Rio Grande with a copy of their immunization records in their pockets—especially those coming from Guatemala, where healthcare is shoddy or non-existent. Remember that wave of fever going around, where about a dozen kids died and thousands of others were permanently paralyzed? I do, ‘cause I was afraid my kid would be exposed to it. And he was. But hey…at least we get to ‘educate’ the worlds kids for free.

Many states have vaccine exemptions for students in school and it varies state by state. There were articles posted back around 2015 blaming the anti vaxxer movement for the resurgence of measles and other diseases. The idea that unvaccinated children were not allowed to attend public school, is just BS.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33


Gee Guys , I don't Want to take the Poison , I WANT TO LIVE !

a reply to: network dude

Politicians who arent doctors and do acting for Photo ops. And some people still fall for their photo ops.