Open Letter to the Unvaccinated From 8 Doctors

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Any time i see somethin like this i like to look at who these "Doctors" actually are.

Angela Durante, PhD She's a Nurse

Denis Rancourt, PhD He is a Physicist

Claus Rinner PhD , he is a Geologist

Laurent Leduc, PhD, couldn't find much but according to this is a Leadership scholar

Donald Welsh, PhD, Finally i get to someone who is actually at a medical school, but he has been discredited

John Zwaagstra, PhD, couldn't find much on John, i think he might be a biotech research scientist.

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting, but this is just like 8 randoms with phd's got together to tell us what they think. I have a mate with a phd in something to do with music, am not gonna ask him for advice about my health.

This letter is not at is core about medical advice; it is about basic God granted human rights and essential civil liberties. Your or anybody else's medical opinion (because that's all that there is now as science is dead) does not trump anybody's inherent and essential rights as a free and autonomous human being.

If you can't see that, just line up for your next jab ... and your next ... and your next ... and your next ...

Exactly.

This is really about the right to refuse medical treatments and the establishment trying to roll the medical laws and some global treaties, back to the 1920s and before, when the medical establishments and eugenicists, of The United States, Canada and Europe, were actively engaged in forcing medical treatments; including force sterilization, on the "undesirables". They were acting in the interest of the greater good of the states and society. It is because of the atrocities of the Eugenics movement, that we have treaties and national laws, that protect us from forced medical treatments.

Although the practice is usually associated with Nazi Germany, North Korea, and other oppressive regimes, it was the U.S. that first introduced forced sterilization laws. They were written in accordance with eugenic culture during the Antebellum Period. Here's a timeline of some of the more notable events since 1849.

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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Any time i see somethin like this i like to look at who these "Doctors" actually are.

Angela Durante, PhD She's a Nurse

Denis Rancourt, PhD He is a Physicist

Claus Rinner PhD , he is a Geologist

Laurent Leduc, PhD, couldn't find much but according to this is a Leadership scholar

Donald Welsh, PhD, Finally i get to someone who is actually at a medical school, but he has been discredited

John Zwaagstra, PhD, couldn't find much on John, i think he might be a biotech research scientist.

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting, but this is just like 8 randoms with phd's got together to tell us what they think. I have a mate with a phd in something to do with music, am not gonna ask him for advice about my health.

so it's like 98% of all scientists agree that........

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
And this statement before the letter

Control over our bodily integrity may well be the ultimate frontier of the fight to protect civil liberties.

This might be the fight of the 21st century, I really hope we don't lose before we even begin.
We win by just saying, NO!

But that may be really hard to do when you entire means of existence; maybe years of schooling is being threatened.

And to think I had thought it would be over something like drinkable water.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Thank you for posting this.
Fear was always the real disease.
We have free will to choose.
They cannot take that away from us.
This battle is beyond our 3rd density comprehension at this time.
Stand strong humanity.

Do not bend
Do not give in
Do not break
And Never Ever Give Up

originally posted by: Kocag

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
And this statement before the letter

Control over our bodily integrity may well be the ultimate frontier of the fight to protect civil liberties.

This might be the fight of the 21st century, I really hope we don't lose before we even begin.
We win by just saying, NO!

But that may be really hard to do when you entire means of existence; maybe years of schooling is being threatened.

And to think I had thought it would be over something like drinkable water.

When it comes down to it, the two are related. If they control your access to drinkable water, they are immediately affecting your health and bodily integrity. You night survive a few years after taking the death jab; you'll last three days, four max, without water.

It's a multi-faceted front.

You've always had the right to say no to a vaccine. But you won't be getting your kid into school for the LAST 70 YEARS OR SO.

You all act like this is something new. It is not.

Vaccines to go to certain parts of the world have been forever.

If you don't get the vaccine, you don't go. If your kid isn't vaccinated, they are not going to school.

And Amy Coney Barrett just reaffirmed that by refusing to take on the Indiana University mandate. Why? Because this has been precedent for decades.

So whine if you must, just don't act like any of this is something new. You lost the argument in the Courts a long time ago and just last week.

a reply to: incoserv

This letter is not at is core about medical advice; it is about basic God granted human rights and essential civil liberties. Your or anybody else's medical opinion (because that's all that there is now as science is dead) does not trump anybody's inherent and essential rights as a free and autonomous human being.

This ^^^ cannot be said too much or too often.

And I can't say it better, so I just decided to quote you.

a reply to: SeventhChapter

Do not bend
Do not give in
Do not break
And Never Ever Give Up

This ^^^ also cannot be said too much or too often.

And you also said it better than I could, so I'm just quoting you for emphasis!

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Any time i see somethin like this i like to look at who these "Doctors" actually are.

Angela Durante, PhD She's a Nurse

Denis Rancourt, PhD He is a Physicist

Claus Rinner PhD , he is a Geologist

Laurent Leduc, PhD, couldn't find much but according to this is a Leadership scholar

Donald Welsh, PhD, Finally i get to someone who is actually at a medical school, but he has been discredited

John Zwaagstra, PhD, couldn't find much on John, i think he might be a biotech research scientist.

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting, but this is just like 8 randoms with phd's got together to tell us what they think. I have a mate with a phd in something to do with music, am not gonna ask him for advice about my health.

Hmm lets not pretend they're the only ones though, considering you said you'd might listen if somebody professional in the right field was sounding alarm bells.... well its just a fact tens of thousands of pathologists and virologists and other relevant fields globally are calling BS yet you claim If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting so interesting indeed, and also, there are plenty of working drs coming forward, or scared to talk/speak out, and over a period of two years..but thats not at all even a little worrying to you ? i don't believe you, thankfully the majority dont believe them or you, so how many more years should we do this dance? how many hundreds millions of lives are you willing to destroy? and where will you be when the world comes looking for those who destroyed it?

OH PS... 14 days to flatten the curve

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Any time i see somethin like this i like to look at who these "Doctors" actually are.

Angela Durante, PhD She's a Nurse

Denis Rancourt, PhD He is a Physicist

Claus Rinner PhD , he is a Geologist

Laurent Leduc, PhD, couldn't find much but according to this is a Leadership scholar

Donald Welsh, PhD, Finally i get to someone who is actually at a medical school, but he has been discredited

John Zwaagstra, PhD, couldn't find much on John, i think he might be a biotech research scientist.

Then i got bored, point is these are not 8 medical doctors.

If you had 8 actual working ID doctors i would say....hmmm...intresting, but this is just like 8 randoms with phd's got together to tell us what they think. I have a mate with a phd in something to do with music, am not gonna ask him for advice about my health.

And Bill Gates is a computer nerd so what’s your point??

originally posted by: MiddleInsite

So whine if you must, just don't act like any of this is something new. You lost the argument in the Courts a long time ago and just last week.

I won't whine, but I'll say "hell no!" loud and proud as long as I can.

And if anyone ever forcibly injects a foreign synthetic substance into my body, I will look them in the eye and tell them if I die, my blood is on their hands and they are a murderer.

If the virus gets me or anyone else, it's all on Mother Nature and humanity's inherent weaknesses.

If a forced vaccine gets me or anyone else, it's willful killing and it's all on the ones who forced it.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

“Very good point and i take your point all I am saying is that several of these doctors never actually went to med school.”

Yet another logical fallacy (‘Appeal to Authority’). Inconserve reply said it best, so I won’t say much more. But I will say this: Human Rights and (what SHOULD be) Common Sense are not limited by ones chosen profession or station if life.

Remember the little boy who pointed out that the Emperor had no clothes? He wasn’t a fashion editor, so by your logic, he should’ve kept his mouth shut. Remember, ALL the adults and ALL the courtiers were fawning over the Emperors magnificent ‘wardrobe’. All it took to break the spell of lunatic lickspittles delusions was a boy simply pointing out and laughing that the Emperor was naked.

Covid infected fragility. Blaming the strong.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
You've always had the right to say no to a vaccine. But you won't be getting your kid into school for the LAST 70 YEARS OR SO.

You all act like this is something new. It is not.

Vaccines to go to certain parts of the world have been forever.

If you don't get the vaccine, you don't go. If your kid isn't vaccinated, they are not going to school.

And Amy Coney Barrett just reaffirmed that by refusing to take on the Indiana University mandate. Why? Because this has been precedent for decades.

So whine if you must, just don't act like any of this is something new. You lost the argument in the Courts a long time ago and just last week.

I am not anti-vaccine and neither were my parents, we took all the vaccines for small pox, polio, measles and all the other ones when I was growing up, but they were tested properly through 4 phases not rushed to market with the warnings the FDA mentioned, they were also approved by the FDA.
Although I do remember being vaccinated a couple of times in school, something about it made me feel uneasy, never seemed to feel any worse after it, maybe just the way they did it, lined up like cattle in the gymnasium to get our shots.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
And this statement before the letter

Control over our bodily integrity may well be the ultimate frontier of the fight to protect civil liberties.

Don't your civil liberties stop when affecting or endangering others? And by this I mean filling up the hospitals so they can't handle treating the non-covid, everyday, mundane things they treat, like heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, GSws, and so on.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Doesn't change the points they make at all, it's all truth.

If you disagree then that's your choice, but I think you are on the wrong forum at this point bud.

It does change the truth. The title and premise of this thread claims it's by "8 Doctors". They are not (save one) actual Medical Doctors.

Misleading, at best.

Flame away......

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's interesting seeing so many adults in this country give in to "peer pressure" at age 30, 40, 50, 60....just like they did when they were in grade school. (Get vaccinated or you've got Kooties!)

You'd think mature adults would have their belief system firmly in place, and not be swayed by those who know less than they do.

Its because all the governments played their cards just right.
Get the virus running.
Make a fuzz about it.
Lock down. Lock more down.
Make companies go bankrupt so people lose their jobs.
This generates fear and makes people seek survival.

They choose what seems easiest; to believe those in power.
Get the jab or lose rights.
Get the jab or be cut out of society.

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's interesting seeing so many adults in this country give in to "peer pressure" at age 30, 40, 50, 60....just like they did when they were in grade school. (Get vaccinated or you've got Kooties!)

You'd think mature adults would have their belief system firmly in place, and not be swayed by those who know less than they do.

Its because all the governments played their cards just right.
Get the virus running.
Make a fuzz about it.
Lock down. Lock more down.
Make companies go bankrupt so people lose their jobs.
This generates fear and makes people seek survival.

They choose what seems easiest; to believe those in power.
Get the jab or lose rights.
Get the jab or be cut out of society.

What do Govt's gain by co's going bust and damage to economies?

Huge losses of tax revenue?

Why would they want that?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: SwampFox999

And at the end of the day, be it Fauci or your family physician, what do you call the doctor who graduated at the bottom of his med class? Doctor.

Very good point and i take your point all I am saying is that several of these doctors never actually went to med school.

What about a slew of doctors whose career has been in vaccines? If I said they were wary of it mainly because it's an entirely new vaccine, what would you say?