Fully vaccinated people 885 percent more likely to die from COVID-19 than unvaccinated

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Same way your kids need to be vaccinated against a multitude of diseases to attend most schools?

Same for there staff.

COVID 19 vaccines are nothing new there.

I don't know anybody that's had more than simple side effects like sore arm or return to COVID like symptoms for a day or so down to being vaccinated.

Your statement pertaining to 45,000 dead in the USA down to being vaccinated is complete and utter tripe as is your source material Doctor Smith, but that's nothing new as you are well aware.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Tell.me the earth is flat I'll smile and walk on by, it hurts no one.

Spread blatent lies about a global pandemic and try to convince people to make medical decisions that could result in death and I'm going to call you out on that.

This is not ATS, it's not fringe or discussion or conspiracy it's just lies.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: nonspecific
Have you actually watched that bitchute video in the OP?

Anyone unable to see why it's utter garbage needs some very basic lessons in pretty much everything.

It's really really bad.





a reply to: network dude

No, I didn't watch it, and don't buy into much of what is said in that regard. But we are on a site where people argue that the Earth is flat, and there are edges you can fall off of, yet they haven't ever been seen or photographed. My point is, you don't erase the crazy, you point to it and laugh. It's what we do, what we have always done. Facebook censors, ATS debunks.

Thanx for the Sermon. No facts

originally posted by: nonspecific
Tell.me the earth is flat I'll smile and walk on by, it hurts no one.

Spread blatent lies about a global pandemic and try to convince people to make medical decisions that could result in death and I'm going to call you out on that.

This is not ATS, it's not fringe or discussion or conspiracy it's just lies.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: nonspecific
Have you actually watched that bitchute video in the OP?

Anyone unable to see why it's utter garbage needs some very basic lessons in pretty much everything.

It's really really bad.





a reply to: network dude

No, I didn't watch it, and don't buy into much of what is said in that regard. But we are on a site where people argue that the Earth is flat, and there are edges you can fall off of, yet they haven't ever been seen or photographed. My point is, you don't erase the crazy, you point to it and laugh. It's what we do, what we have always done. Facebook censors, ATS debunks.

Here, you are treated like you are intelligent enough to make up your own mind. If you can't spot the obvious garbage, and you require a "fact checker" to keep you safe, perhaps you might be risking too much living outside the bubble with a controlled environment.

I don't want this place to change. It's been wonderful for many years. If you see something that you feel will kill people bring facts to end the lunacy.


ETA:
and don't downplay the death statistics of those who have gotten too close to one of the edges and fallen into..........whatever it is that is past the edge.

I don't want it to change either.

I quite like pointing out the glaring errors in some threads.

And I like learning something new in other threads.

It's an odd place.

Also an edit.

If you fall off one side you fall onto the other.

I thought everyone knew that?



a reply to: network dude

Please enlighten me how taking this shot is suppossed to help or be done for the sake of anyone but themselves? a reply to: Spacespider

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Same way your kids need to be vaccinated against a multitude of diseases to attend most schools?

Same for there staff.

COVID 19 vaccines are nothing new there.

I don't know anybody that's had more than simple side effects like sore arm or return to COVID like symptoms for a day or so down to being vaccinated.

Your statement pertaining to 45,000 dead in the USA down to being vaccinated is complete and utter tripe as is your source material Doctor Smith, but that's nothing new as you are well aware.

The corporation drug companies coming up with more products forced upon us. And they aren't even responsible.

If the vaccine works you don't have to force it on anyone. You lie every time you talk. 1st you say it's your own choice. Now you admit they are trying to force us.

I was 100 percent right. They are going to try to get the useless eaters to take the VAXX. It's Eugenics. If you take the vaxx you get the Darwin award. The only reason I care is they are trying and failing to force intelligent, aware people to get the vaxx. This defeats the culling of the gullible.

Why use the vaccine?

Why not just make the virus evil?

Or put something in the water the air or the wheat or any one of a hundred other easier ways to do it?

Why make it an experimental mRNA vaccine?

There's so many reasons why this method is dumb for a eugenics program.



a reply to: Doctor Smith

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Nobody forcing squat upon you.

Employers have rules, that's always been the case.

And its not Eugenics its virology and immunology.

COVID 19 would make a piss poor bioweapon or eugenics tool same with the vaccines.

But you feel free to blow your right-wing uneducated whistle if it makes you feel better.

Educated people who work in the field worth there salt will tell you to get your vaccine, simple as that.

Mods shut this utter BS down. Good God, it's amazing at some of things that get left up.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

The promotion of acts which will maximize deaths and human suffering is evil.

More people will die and suffer from COVID-19's effects if we do not take actions against it.

People that seek to sabotage those defensive actions against COVID-19 are, therefore, also evil.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I really wish they would stop calling the Covid Gene Therapy Medical Treatment a vaccine. It's not a vaccine, it does not prevent contracting a disease and it does not prevent transmission of a disease. The Covid Gene Therapy is no better than Nyquil, Benelin, or any other of-the-shelf "cold remedy" and it doesn't even have the utility of Aspirin or Tylenol. It does however have the potential for death from 15 minutes to 2 years after the jab, debilitating injury and adverse effects and the probability that anyone with the jab is now a GMO patented product, just cattle or crops.

But then with all the information out there, to take the jab you'd have to be cattle with a herd mentality or a vegetable.

Cheers - Dave

Is there any actual basis for refusing to call it a vaccine?

I'm asking as a few people are saying this but I've yet to see some kind of actual reason other than people don't want to call it a vaccine?




a reply to: bobs_uruncle

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

The mRNA from the vaccines does not enter the cell nucleus or interact with our DNA, so how does that constitute gene therapy?

Gene therapies have long-lasting even permanent effects because they ""permanently"" change DNA.

The vaccines don't do that.

www.forbes.com...

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: Doctor Smith

I really wish they would stop calling the Covid Gene Therapy Medical Treatment a vaccine. It's not a vaccine, it does not prevent contracting a disease and it does not prevent transmission of a disease. The Covid Gene Therapy is no better than Nyquil, Benelin, or any other of-the-shelf "cold remedy" and it doesn't even have the utility of Aspirin or Tylenol. It does however have the potential for death from 15 minutes to 2 years after the jab, debilitating injury and adverse effects and the probability that anyone with the jab is now a GMO patented product, just cattle or crops.

But then with all the information out there, to take the jab you'd have to be cattle with a herd mentality or a vegetable.

Cheers - Dave

Complete and utter uniformed bollocks

Well done I salute your quest to be completely wrong in every respect.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Is there any actual basis for refusing to call it a vaccine?

I'm asking as a few people are saying this but I've yet to see some kind of actual reason other than people don't want to call it a vaccine?




a reply to: bobs_uruncle

It does not meet the legal, medical or operational definition of a vaccine. Shall we call a pig or maybe a fish, a human next?

Cheers - Dave

Would you care to explain why?

And why all these silly Billy scientists and doctors are calling it a vaccine when apparently it's not?

On what basis does it not meet the criteria?


a reply to: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Doctor Smith

. . . COVID 19 would make a piss poor bioweapon or eugenics tool same with the vaccines.

I suppose if that statement came from a eugenicist and expert in biological weapons and tactics, that it may be a valid one.

I thought the same thing too. I had heard some outlandish conspiracy theories about vaccines and the virus as a binary biological weapon engineered for population reduction and blew it off as more doom porn. But I thought that maybe it had some reasonable source that got twisted and looked into it. Here is that thread . . .

LINK

a reply to: nonspecific

The eugenics theory has always been pretty silly. I'd be more willing to bet, mass experiment to develop a new drug with impunity and without regards to any consequences because all these rich old mother #ers are getting old and are desperate to find a cure for death at whatever cost.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Well its clearly not Gene therapy nether nor does it meet the definition of such, so lets not call it that.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Is there any actual basis for refusing to call it a vaccine?

I'm asking as a few people are saying this but I've yet to see some kind of actual reason other than people don't want to call it a vaccine?




a reply to: bobs_uruncle

It's technically called a "medical device" in the EUA.