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originally posted by: Havamal
So " most" people in the US "is" on some kind of long term treatments for their conditions...."
Wow.
Did not notice that most of the US is that sick. You have a source for that?
Didn't think so.
originally posted by: Jason79
originally posted by: Havamal
So " most" people in the US "is" on some kind of long term treatments for their conditions...."
Wow.
Did not notice that most of the US is that sick. You have a source for that?
Didn't think so.
Nearly 70% of all Americans take at least one prescription drug.
hpi.georgetown.edu...
Should be common knowledge
www.propublica.org...
originally posted by: TXTriker
originally posted by: 1947boomer
originally posted by: IAMTAT
So says the American Diabetes Association’s chief scientific and medical officer, Dr. Robert Gabbay.
Quite alarming when we also consider that Diabetics make up less than 10% of the US population.
Dr. Gabbay says the risk of death is up to 12X higher for people with diabetes.
SOURCE: nypost.com...
If Dr. Gabbay is to be taken at his word...those with diabetes are definitely in the High Risk group for hospitalization and death as a result of getting the China Virus...along with the elderly suffering from other comorbidities.
If there is any positive news to these statistics...
If you DO NOT have diabetes, your already miniscule chances of dying from China Virus @ 00.1%...has just been substantially reduced.
Not necessarily. From Kaiser Health News, March 5, 2021:
"The risk of death from Covid-19 is about 10 times higher in countries where most of the population is overweight, according to a report released Wednesday by the World Obesity Federation. Researchers found that by the end of 2020, global Covid-19 death rates were more than 10 times higher in countries where more than half the adults are overweight, compared to countries where fewer than half are overweight. (Mascarenhas and Rahim, 3/5)"
khn.org...
Nearly 2/3 of the adult population in the US is considered overweight and nearly 45% are considered obese. Type 2 Diabetes is strongly linked to obesity. I think obesity is the primary risk factor and, of course, if you are obese you're much more likely to have Diabetes, as well. So then you have two risk factors.
This I have to question. Who decides what is classified as obese? Are they getting the info from the doctors that people see? If so, then the numbers cannot be trusted. My doctor listed me as Obese for 10 pounds overweight. If 10 pounds is considered obese then most countries in the world should be considered to have obese populations.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
You really don't understand how that is?
For a start, they're two different numbers. All COVID deaths include all of them from start to finish, not just the recent ones, or any others.
So of all COVID deaths, 50% were diabetic.
Now on to a separate stat. This time, the stat is that 99.5% of deaths are unvaccinated people. They're pushing this one to get vaccination rates up. And they're just talking about people without the vaccine, not diabetic people without it or healthy ones or young ones or old ones ... ALL of them in one aggregate clump.
The two stats can overlap and not contradict.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
You really don't understand how that is?
For a start, they're two different numbers. All COVID deaths include all of them from start to finish, not just the recent ones, or any others.
So of all COVID deaths, 50% were diabetic.
Now on to a separate stat. This time, the stat is that 99.5% of deaths are unvaccinated people. They're pushing this one to get vaccination rates up. And they're just talking about people without the vaccine, not diabetic people without it or healthy ones or young ones or old ones ... ALL of them in one aggregate clump.
The two stats can overlap and not contradict.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
Don't know about that, but it sure didn't help when we locked them all in their homes, on their couches to gain 15 more pounds through stress eating to "save" them from something that has a better chance of killing them if they're overweight, and of course, we won't even talk about how gyms and other exercise facilities were "nonessential".
originally posted by: Havamal
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
Don't know about that, but it sure didn't help when we locked them all in their homes, on their couches to gain 15 more pounds through stress eating to "save" them from something that has a better chance of killing them if they're overweight, and of course, we won't even talk about how gyms and other exercise facilities were "nonessential".
" we locked them in," I didn't did you? You stop them from walking around the block, or doing some pushups?
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Havamal
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
Don't know about that, but it sure didn't help when we locked them all in their homes, on their couches to gain 15 more pounds through stress eating to "save" them from something that has a better chance of killing them if they're overweight, and of course, we won't even talk about how gyms and other exercise facilities were "nonessential".
" we locked them in," I didn't did you? You stop them from walking around the block, or doing some pushups?
Some people need structure. Some people need obligation or to feel responsible in order to maintain.
I happen to be one. I need to obligation of a class or practice in order to be motivated to go workout and exercise. Just getting up off the couch doesn't do it for me. I practice on my own because I am competitive; I am competitive because I practice. I practice because I signed a membership to the dojang.
Do you see how this works?
I am luckier than most. My group kept up via Zoom classes and practices, but the community center was completely shut down.
And when we're talking about a group of people who aren't active all that much to begin with ... it's like signing a death warrant.
originally posted by: Havamal
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
You really don't understand how that is?
For a start, they're two different numbers. All COVID deaths include all of them from start to finish, not just the recent ones, or any others.
So of all COVID deaths, 50% were diabetic.
Now on to a separate stat. This time, the stat is that 99.5% of deaths are unvaccinated people. They're pushing this one to get vaccination rates up. And they're just talking about people without the vaccine, not diabetic people without it or healthy ones or young ones or old ones ... ALL of them in one aggregate clump.
The two stats can overlap and not contradict.
Incorrect.99.5 percent of people dying since May have been unvaxed.
I did not try to conflate covid with diabetes, the OP did
originally posted by: Havamal
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Havamal
You really don't understand how that is?
For a start, they're two different numbers. All COVID deaths include all of them from start to finish, not just the recent ones, or any others.
So of all COVID deaths, 50% were diabetic.
Now on to a separate stat. This time, the stat is that 99.5% of deaths are unvaccinated people. They're pushing this one to get vaccination rates up. And they're just talking about people without the vaccine, not diabetic people without it or healthy ones or young ones or old ones ... ALL of them in one aggregate clump.
The two stats can overlap and not contradict.
Incorrect.99.5 percent of people dying since May have been unvaxed.
I did not try to conflate covid with diabetes, the OP did
I merely pointed out that if the OP was correct, than the 99.5 percent who died must have been 50 percent diabetic.