Goverment UAP report is here.

We should remember that congress instructed the pentagon to write a report explaining what they know about "UAP's" and submit it to them. It is not like the pentagon decided that they would perform this task.

So, we know that all of the efforts, violation of peoples rights and the money used to hide information would not have been done for "something they did not know what it was"....

The word perjury comes to mind...

a reply to: vlawde
Thank you foor posting.
But this is a theme that I have classified in my head as a cover-up that has been going on for many decades, perhaps hundreds (or thousands?) of years. There is so much about it for those willing to search for it on the internet that I've decided to leave this topic alone. I am convinced that extraterrestrial life is visiting Earth. How? I think UFOs are made up of a magnetic beam of consciousness.
www.evawaseerst.be...

Well, not what I hoped for but about what I expected. There must be/is an underlying reason for the hoopla leading up to this report and the report itself. As far as what reason? Add infinitum. I lean towards it being bait'

In reading over the published "Summary", I noticed that it is never mentioned , nor is there any reference to any materials or "debris" recovered from a downed UAP.

Granted, this is just a Summary, and more information and details of encounters may be included in the full report, but it seems odd that with emphasis put forward by this opening document with regard to the government's inability to draw definitive conclusions from the available evidence, nothing was even hinted at that could suggest possession of "materials of inconclusive origin".

So, is the Pentagon lying to Congress, even if it is a "lie of omission", or does the military not actually possess any materials recovered from its years of observing UAP's?

Perhaps UAP's don't crash?

And what does this apparent lack of testable material say about all those who have claimed in the past to be in possession of such treasures?


Sometimes what is left unsaid speaks louder than what is said.

originally posted by: aristorat
Its plasma. Watch pn yt about Hessendalen.

Plasma can emit radio freq. Plasma can appears and disappear. Plasma can travel high speed. Plasma can take different shapes. Like pyramid pr ball. Plasma can change colors.

Spot on and that fits the bill for most ufos seen today. But it doesn't really account for the nuts and bolts type craft out there which I guess are actually ours. Real ufos are as you describe, nuts and bolts types ours

The military ufos just don't come close to the plasma type and the authorities are just as in the dark as the rest of us who know we've seen them and aknowledge that it's hard to get any grasp of what's going on when it makes no sense. They come, they go and that is the only shared knowledge between us people and the authorities. They just exist and the report acknowledges this

I'm actually quite surprised in that the report goes further and uses stronger language than I thought it would.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter


Hola mate here's preliminary report from JGJ on the report.





Unsurprisingly no mention in the report about NORAD being the main clearing house for CIRVIS/OPREP-3 Military pilot UFO reports.


(14:15).

a reply to: karl 12

A report on the report.🤣

They keep going back to that one incident they say was a large deflated balloon.

Which incident exactly is that?

If they insist it's Roswell 1947, the whole report is disinformation ops.

a reply to: vlawde
Greetings, and Thank you, vlawde,

Subject: Input from the 2 most relevant government agencies is missing.

The "esteemed" government agency, The Majestic 12 (MJ-12) is believed to be the keeper of all knowledge of UFOs.

Input from the Department of Energy is also conspicuously absent, given whatever information they may be the keeper of in Nevada, and given that UFOs have been known to loiter over nuclear facilities.

Recommendations: For now, rely on disclosures from other countries, especially France and South American countries. Complain to elected officials that the report needs a re-write (an addendum) with input from MJ-12 and DOE.

originally posted by: reject
a reply to: Arbitrageur

"We should approach these questions without preconceptions to encourage a thorough, systematized analysis of the potential national security and flight safety risks posed by unidentified aerial phenomena, whether they are the result of a foreign adversary, ATMOSPHERIC or other aerial phenomena, space debris, or something else entirely," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

I just deleted half my reply. lol 🤣

That covers a lot of things besides atmospheric phenomena though, so does the actual report. By the way, Kevin Day said the captain of the Princeton's hypothesis for the radar readings going from 80,000 feet to 20,000 feet in one second was some kind of atmospheric phenomenon. Whether that's what it actually was or not, who knows, but a physical object doing that would encounter some problems with atmospheric resistance so is probably not the most likely explanation.

originally posted by: reject
a reply to: karl 12

A report on the report.🤣

They keep going back to that one incident they say was a large deflated balloon.

Which incident exactly is that?

If they insist it's Roswell 1947, the whole report is disinformation ops.

I would also like to know what large deflated balloon they identified, but if you read the report you will find Roswell is ruled out since it only covers certain UAPs from 2004-2021 which obviously excludes anything prior to 2004.

This photo supposedly "leaked" from the UAPTF appears to be a balloon, but not a "large deflated balloon" since it doesn't appear deflated, and my guess from the comparison photo is that it's not large either, so they were unable to identify this?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
a reply to: Lucidparadox

So alien beings just happen to create a spacecraft with the exact same design as the Batman balloon as shown?

Pentagon's leaked UFO sighting was a Batman balloon, internet argues 'Exact proportions'
www.express.co.uk...

a reply to: karl 12

Cheers and many thanks for this link mate got to nip out to mums cut her hedge so'll watch it wen get back hope u have a great day too

a reply to: chunder

Completely agree. I've been following this topic for about 30 years and I think this is the first time I haven't been let down or underwhelmed. My expectations were low but this report actually feels like the start of something new. Basically they said "here is 144 cases of UFOs and we could only figure out 1 of them."

Also interesting is that they admitted there are more sightings around military institutions/bases (although this could be biased). I think we will see a paradigm shift over the next few years.

If I had to choose 1 of the 3 photos below as a large deflated balloon (more like large deflating balloon)…my choice would picture 1 on the left…..assuming these are all taken by the navy pilots.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Personally I think it likely some debris or evidence has been recovered somewhere down the line. But if so, you can bet that remains classified, and thus not mentioned in the report. Who know, maybe they didn't even share everything with the lawmakers.

There's bound to be a leak sooner or later, but this is the time to put more pressure on the government and others for more information. Someone who has info but holding it back for whatever reason needs to say F it and produce proof (assuming there is some)

Found on a local San Diego tv station from yesterday Friday’s report release…

Jeremy Corbell…..summarizes the report in general terms.

However do note what the reporter says at the end…..the UAPTF will be coming out with another report in 90 days….

Source Vid (un-embeddable) : fox5sandiego.com...



If someone can find more info about another UAPTF report…coming out 90 days from now….and post it….that would be sweet.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
If I had to choose 1 of the 3 photos below as a large deflated balloon (more like large deflating balloon)…my choice would picture 1 on the left…..assuming these are all taken by the navy pilots.

The images on the left and right look fully inflated and regular in shape to me. I don't see anything in those suggesting any deflation.

The shape of the middle image is somewhat irregular, possibly indicating it's partially deflated, so that may be a possibility but I don't assume these are the only three options for the deflated balloon, out of 114 reports. The high altitude balloons can look semi-transparent like that center image, and are rather large, like this balloon which is fully inflated:

Super Pressure Balloon

originally posted by: vlawde
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Personally I think it likely some debris or evidence has been recovered somewhere down the line. But if so, you can bet that remains classified, and thus not mentioned in the report. Who know, maybe they didn't even share everything with the lawmakers.

There's bound to be a leak sooner or later, but this is the time to put more pressure on the government and others for more information. Someone who has info but holding it back for whatever reason needs to say F it and produce proof (assuming there is some)

Some of the $22 million awarded to Bigelow's firm was for building or modifying facilities to store recovered material. But how much did he actually build or modify? That's unclear, and Bigelow told George Knapp in an interview that he never received the recovered materials, that whoever had them was keeping them close and wouldn't let Bigelow have them.

Then there was Jacque Vallee's postponed book release that supposedly talked about some recovered material, that was strange, because the descriptions of the material were so enigmatic, and didn't sound like what one might expect from someone with a technical background.

The material we know about, "Arts Parts" that apparently TTSA bought from Linda Howe, and their CRADA with the army was supposed to test that material, could have been industrial slag for all we know.

I think where it's mentioned in Black Vaults breakdown regarding all the different agencies "input" it'll be very much more that these agencies "vetted the language" instead of including any relevant information.

We're expecting one thing, but that's not how these agencies roll.
It's fair to attach their ABC's to it if all they did was actually look at it, whether we like it or not. Getting relevant information out of each individual agency would take a slew of arm twisting.

The consolidation of adopted reporting formats while sounding good on paper also blows since it rules out all earlier data collected before 2002. I see it as a well crafted stalling tactic. It works to the gov't's benefit by taking all prior UFO/UAPinformation tossing it out an getting them out from under information they never wanted to have to discuss to begin with.

It also gives them an "out" regarding whistleblowers prior to 2002. It's now even easier to claim any data that surfaced due to those whistleblowers can't be used/evaluated properly since the new streamlined guidelines are in place.

This new report is looking more an more like we just got screwed with our pants on.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

I see your point…..

By the way…..wouldn’t you think a “large ‘deflated’ balloon”s mass would have the balloon dropping in altitude versus having winds let’s say…keeping it aloft deflated? ….hmmm

Concur ….It’s probably another balloon who’s picture has not been released or leaked for public consumption

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

The material we know about, "Arts Parts" that apparently TTSA bought from Linda Howe, and their CRADA with the army was supposed to test that material, could have been industrial slag for all we know.

Is the bit about the US Army CRADA material being "Arts Parts" confirmed Arbi?

Given the elaborate song and dance over Lou's well documented Materials MASINT for beginners roadtrip...was hoping this was the source???

Per the Black Vault Deputy Secretary of Defense issued a memorandum and this also includes a statement from the Pentagon Press Secretary. a mandate for future UAP reporting to better coordinate with Intel Community partners and to have UAP reports completed within 2 weeks of occurrences. Good to see some actual action following the report


www.theblackvault.com... e&fbclid=IwAR1apbyXXzelU3d3L0lL107gT88PfV9ieAT2z1mNtrc6m-kjvMV10RlTLd8