Goverment UAP report is here.

Basically, they cant say it's aliens, but they cant also deny it's aliens.

This will keep stretching until alien visitation evidence is unediable.

originally posted by: Frocharocha
Basically, they cant say it's aliens, but they cant also deny it's aliens.
This will keep stretching until alien visitation evidence is unediable.

The ball is back in the aliens' court now.

a reply to: vlawde

If we keeping demanding the U.S. Govt provide National Security before truth, we can never really ask them to disclose anything, can we?

We have to come to a critical mass consensus that the knowledge of these entities comes before National Security and then work together to change the legislation.

They work for US.

Its plasma. Watch pn yt about Hessendalen.

Plasma can emit radio freq. Plasma can appears and disappear. Plasma can travel high speed. Plasma can take different shapes. Like pyramid pr ball. Plasma can change colors.

Some astrophysicists asked a question about plasma life form. But thats a different thread.

a reply to: vlawde
So the way I read it, the excerpt below, they are talking about funding a new incarnation of bluebook, but the difference is, they won't even pretend to share the findings openly with the public this time (so they don't have to make up swamp gas stories, they can just say that sharing their investigation would leak too much information about their sensor capabilities etc).

From page 7 of your link in the OP:

Increase Investment in Research and Development

The UAPTF has indicated that additional funding for research and development could further the future study of the topics laid out in this report. Such investments should be guided by a UAP Collection Strategy, UAP R&D Technical Roadmap, and a UAP Program Plan.

originally posted by: aristorat
Its plasma. Watch pn yt about Hessendalen.

Plasma can emit radio freq. Plasma can appears and disappear. Plasma can travel high speed. Plasma can take different shapes. Like pyramid pr ball. Plasma can change colors.

Some astrophysicists asked a question about plasma life form. But thats a different thread.

Maybe some UFOs/UAPs are plasma but not all. For example this report says one of the UAPs was identified...it was a balloon. That's not plasma, ok? Also I've read a lot of research on Hessdalen and they still have several hypotheses but no firm conclusions.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: vlawde
So the way I read it, the excerpt below, they are talking about funding a new incarnation of bluebook, but the difference is, they won't even pretend to share the findings openly with the public this time (so they don't have to make up swamp gas stories, they can just say that sharing their investigation would leak too much information about their sensor capabilities etc).

From page 7 of your link in the OP:

Increase Investment in Research and Development

The UAPTF has indicated that additional funding for research and development could further the future study of the topics laid out in this report. Such investments should be guided by a UAP Collection Strategy, UAP R&D Technical Roadmap, and a UAP Program Plan.

originally posted by: aristorat
Its plasma. Watch pn yt about Hessendalen.

Plasma can emit radio freq. Plasma can appears and disappear. Plasma can travel high speed. Plasma can take different shapes. Like pyramid pr ball. Plasma can change colors.

Some astrophysicists asked a question about plasma life form. But thats a different thread.

Maybe some UFOs/UAPs are plasma but not all. For example this report says one of the UAPs was identified...it was a balloon. That's not plasma, ok? Also I've read a lot of research on Hessdalen and they still have several hypotheses but no firm conclusions.

Most cases from Blue Book were given explanations, but there were some that were too extraordinary or witrh inconclusive evidence and were labeled as "unidentified". Example: Lonnie Zamora incident

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
originally posted by: LSU2018

“I hate the way they changed it to UAP. Just call it a frickin UFO like it's been forever (not directed at you).”

“I don't know, on one hand, I don't really like the letters UAP... they don't seem to flow smoothly off the tongue.

But on the other hand, there are far too many people that think the letters U.F.O. = Flying Saucer.”

In the 50’s The USAF and CIA (maybe other agency’s) used UFOB for Unidentified Flying Objects……a precursor to the shortened UFO.

“ The term "UFO" (or "UFOB") was coined in 1953 by the United States Air Force (USAF) to serve as a catch-all for all such reports. In its initial definition, the USAF stated that a "UFOB" was "any airborne object which by performance, aerodynamic characteristics, or unusual features, does not conform to any presently known aircraft or missile type, or which cannot be positively identified as a familiar object". Accordingly, the term was initially restricted to that fraction of cases which remained unidentified after investigation, as the USAF was interested in potential national security reasons and "technical aspects"”

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
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But on the other hand, there are far too many people that think the letters U.F.O. = Flying Saucer.

Yeah I think they started to use UAP more frequently now for that reason, people always associate (incorrectly) UFO with aliens, UAP not so much.

It's quite a big admission imo, that they basically admit they don't know what they are. But if all they have are these blurry dash cam type videos of basically unidentified blobs and verbal testimonials what else can they do? They'd need physical evidence to land on the White House before they confirm anything.

My theory is that some of these sightings, not all, are some unknown non-intelligent plasma / jelly fish like organism that live way high up in the atmosphere.

a reply to: vlawde

I have always said that Governments around the world know as much about UFO's as the ordinary man in the street. Many people have witnessed them, and that is all we have.

One day ET's may reveal themselves.

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
It may just be wishful thinking on my part, but maybe 'This preliminary report' is merely a prelude of more to come?

or is 'This preliminary report' all we're gonna get?

Part of me thinks they will spoon feed the general population information. That way a huge freak out might be avoided.

Once more :

I don't think you understand. There's just too much evidence that it's all been a lie. The conspiracy is not to hide the existence of extraterrestrials. It's to make people believe in it so completely that they question nothing.

Fox Mulder - X-Files - Patient X-5X13

I used to want to believe.

A weather phenomenon doesn't take a solid dark form a few feet off the ground then blasts straight up into outer space.

originally posted by: Frocharocha
Most cases from Blue Book were given explanations, but there were some that were too extraordinary or witrh inconclusive evidence and were labeled as "unidentified". Example: Lonnie Zamora incident

Hynek had some issues with the Air Force classifications in Blue Book. After he consulted for them on Blue Book, he started CUFOS and reviewed those same cases and came up with his own classifications of which were explained and which were unexplained, without any pressure from the Air Force.

But in both the air force classifications and in Hynek's classifications, the majority were explainable.
That's quite in contrast to the report that came out today on the incidents from 2004 to 2021 but mostly in the last two years:

www.dni.gov...

We were able to identify one reported UAP with high confidence. In that case, we identified the object as a large, deflating balloon. The others remain unexplained.

They don't give the total unmber of UAP reports they looked at that I can find, but they do say 144 of them were from USG sources so there were at least that many, so only one explained out of 144 is a far lower explanation rate than we've seen historically. Maybe some screening was already done of the reports before they got to the UAP task force, though I wonder if they got the "Pyramid" UFO Corbel leaked which looked like an out of focus aircraft with flashing strobe lights like aircraft have.

Shouldn't they tell us which balloon they identified? Was it one of the leaked photos that looked like a balloon? Maybe the "blimp" photo?

originally posted by: reject
A weather phenomenon doesn't take a solid dark form a few feet off the ground then blasts straight up into outer space.

Did someone say it does?

a reply to: vlawde

Yeah, I read it, it was short and said hardly anything! The typical government report, apart from being so tiny.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

"We should approach these questions without preconceptions to encourage a thorough, systematized analysis of the potential national security and flight safety risks posed by unidentified aerial phenomena, whether they are the result of a foreign adversary, ATMOSPHERIC or other aerial phenomena, space debris, or something else entirely," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

I just deleted half my reply. lol 🤣

From the UAP “Preliminary” Assessment report…….

“Although USAF data collection has been limited historically the USAF began a six- month pilot program in November 2020 to collect in the most likely areas to encounter UAP and is evaluating how to normalize future collection, reporting, and analysis across the entire Air Force.”

The above is what the USAF is looking to do……

Incidentally…..”data collection has been limited historically” is true…….Manpower and funding was a problem.

Here’s how it was done by the USAF back in the 50’s …..I suppose it needs revision to today’s technologies for data gathering.

a reply to: vlawde

For those who would like it read to them, project unity put a 30 minute impression video together.


Unfortunately it’s just beating around the bush with no real substance.

Irving Cohn and Frank Silver's song from 1923, pretty much sums up this whole report, with their ubiquitous tune...

"Yes, we have no Bananas."

Sung by Eddie Cantor and later by others like Louis Prima.