Why the Covid vaccine is so dangerous

a reply to: ketsuko

Not asking how many saved, asking how many did covid kill, how many did the vaccine kill. From that we can infer which is more dangerous.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04


A friend from the Philipines who just visited said they are using the Sino vax, and her brother died of blood clots, he did have a pre-existing heart condition.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: OccamsRazor04


A friend from the Philipines who just visited said they are using the Sino vax, and her brother died of blood clots, he did have a pre-existing heart condition.

They are using different vaccines, like every country. They had millions of Pfizer vaccines among others. Pfizer was also the first one they approved. Ask Chile how well the Chinese vaccines are working. They went from 1500 cases a day to 7,000 after they started vaccinating with it. America peaked at 300,000 in January, we are now down to something like 10,000.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I said the unknowns are greater with the vaccine. That's because nobody knows. Covid infection characteristics and treatments are known. That's where the whole risk/reward ratio comes into play. Go ahead and dive into the unknown, I'll stay over here and watch it play out and sincerely hope you're ok. I know I will be.

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a reply to: Rkoje21

I believe your link brings up a discussion of the America's Frontline Doctors article. It has been discussed here on ATS.
Thanks for participating in the thread, and hopefully we will have some definitive answers soon!
The debates continue!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: musicismagic

No, because we are using theirs, big pharma paid millions to China in order to be able to market their shot as made by the big pharmas, with the promise of European markets to be for China first.

The formula for this shots is all china,

Is it? Got any evidence for this? I had the AZ shots. Made in Oxford in the UK.

Don’t have the answer for you, but anything can be formulated and designed in a completely different location and manufacturered in another. Apple does this with their products for example.

So not impossible to have something designed at one location and produced at another.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I had the AZ shots. Made in Oxford in the UK.

Did you actually read 'Made in UK' on the vial?
Not all AZ is manufactured in the UK.

Explaining vaccine hesitancy If COVID-19 were tigers:

Centers for Tiger Control: "There are dangerous tigers on the loose! We need everyone to get in this cage with a live tiger."

Individual: "Why would I do that? Isn't that dangerous?"

CTC: "Yes, but there are thousands of wild tigers loose. This way your body will know what to do if you get attacked by one."

Individual: "Isn't there a chance I'll get attacked in the tiger cage?"

CTC: "Possibly a small chance, but it'd be less severe than getting attacked by thousands of tigers, obviously."

Individual: "Do I have a choice?"

CTC: "Oh yes of course...if you don't get in the tiger cage though, you'll have to wear these tiger mittens everywhere. Also, your employer can fire you if you don't, so if you like buying things, you probably should just go ahead and get in the tiger cage."

Individual: "Um..."

CTC: "Also, it's incredibly selfish to not get in the tiger cage. If a tiger grabbed your leg, you might drag the tiger over to someone who is less able to fend off tiger attacks. There might even be a tiger on your leg right now!"

Individual: "I don't feel like there's a tiger on my leg right now. Also I'm pretty sure I already survived a tiger attack last year, I woke up in a hospital bed covered in blood and claw marks."

CTC: "Are you sure that was a tiger tho?"

Individual: "I'm pretty sure, there was orange and black fur everywhere, and the claw marks were the size of a tiger's."

CTC: "That might have just been a cougar. They're totally different. You should still get in the tiger cage anyway."

Individual: "I've got this gun. Can't I just carry around a gun or something? Guns work on all sorts of animals."

CTC: "Ha ha ha no. Has your gun ever been tested on a tiger?"

Individual: "No, but it's pretty strong, and the literature says lots of other people have used them against tigers successfully, it seems like it'd work."

CTC: "Nope, getting in the tiger cage is the only approved method for building resistance to tigers."

Individual: "Fine. I'll get into the tiger cage."

CTC: "You're making the responsible choice."

***ROARING AND SCREAMING SOUNDS***

Individual (emerging bloodied and gasping for breath): "There, are you happy?!"

CTC: "You did the right thing."


Individual: "..."

CTC: "By the way, we just discovered there are white tigers, we're going to need you to come back in a few weeks."

a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

You win worst analogy of the year award. I was going to correct it for you and started, and everything you said was simply so ridiculous I was finding almost every word of every sentence you wrote had to be changed.

Centers for Tiger Control: "There are dangerous tigers on the loose! We need everyone to get in this cage with a FAKEtiger."

The virus is not live covid. Just a question, do you want to run around with live tigers or hide in a cage with a fake one? Your analogy not mine.

I'll take my chances with the tigers, thanks.

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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

Feel free, just make sure when you create an analogy it actually describes what is going on and makes sense.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I had the AZ shots. Made in Oxford in the UK.

Did you actually read 'Made in UK' on the vial?
Not all AZ is manufactured in the UK.

You are right and I stand corrected. "Developed" in the UK.

Sure. So I can improve my analogies, help me understand then: Describe in detail how the vaccine which depends on prompting a natural immune response based on exposure to the spike protein generated within your own cells via the mRNA vaccine differ from a natural immune response based on exposure to the live virus? Please include links to at least 3 peer reviewed studies. a reply to: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: litterbaux

94% of Covid-19 deaths consisted of individuals who had 3 or more existing/chronic medical conditions.

Contrary to Covid-19, I get the feeling that Vaccine-generated deaths are prevalent even amongst very healthy people.

It's too bad vaccine related deaths are not being studied...or even broadly acknowledged.

I bet if the government began rewarding the medical and death industry for Vaccine sickness/death, the way they threw over $1 Trillion to the medical industry for Covid-19 sickness/death, we'd get a ton of vaccine-deaths surfacing.

Do you have a source for that claim, please?

Not a vaccine. It's part of weapons system to identify you as friend or foe to drone armies of the future. Also, it's meant alter who you are as a human being and toy which things no man ought. It is defective and will kill billions in the end...

Turn to Christ. That's the only answer.

a reply to: ColeYounger

a reply to: ColeYounger

Spike protein is very, very dangerous. It's cytotoxic.

Cytotoxicity isn't going to kill you. Lots of common items are cytotoxic. Latex, for example, is highly cytotoxic, and many of us are comfortable using latex gloves or condoms. Have you ever had orthodontic treatment? Braces release cytotoxic metal ions into your body. Same goes for pretty much every medical implant. If you've ever walked down a busy road, you've inhaled a significant quantity of cytotoxic particles into your lungs.

When you're doing a biocompatibility study on a material, cytotoxicity is often a screening tool used to determine if the device could cause more serious adverse effects such as sensitization, irritation, genotoxicity, chronic toxicity, mutagenicity, etc. etc. If you get a positive cytotoxicity result, usually you'll have to do a more in depth biocompatibility assessment.

It all comes down to risk analysis: do the benefits of use outweigh the risks?

People freak out over a vaccine that has side effects in such a small portion

But scoff at a virus that killed millions.

This is an IQ test.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Apparently not?

originally posted by: ExiledSpirit777
People freak out over a vaccine that has side effects in such a small portion

But scoff at a virus that killed millions.

This is an IQ test.

The virus hasn't killed millions.

No one actually believes that.

That is the real IQ test.