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originally posted by: musicismagic
China has 1.6 billion or more people. Are they using American vaccines?
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: ColeYounger
The people who will be arguing against everything the three
gentlemen have said. Aren't even worth engaging.
Refusing to engage in a debate is the last refuge of those who cannot defend their own views.
The fact of the matter is that what these people are saying is disputed by significantly more people than it is supported by, and they've not managed to get a single document past peer review.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
We, as a global society, have been circumventing the process of natural selection for many years, the result being that the world is full of idiots. I read a quote years ago that, if memory serves me, was attributed to Benjamin Disraeli: The result of protecting a fool from his folly is to fill the world with fools.
The result of protecting a fool from his folly is to fill the world with fools.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
Politifact is saying the video is nonsense, and that spike protein is not dangerous. Source
U.S. public health authorities and vaccine experts say there is no evidence that the vaccines’ spike protein is toxic or “cytotoxic,” which means toxic to cells.
Experts say there is no evidence that the spike proteins produced by the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, or the spike protein created by genetic material in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, are toxic.
There you have it! "Experts" have debunked Dr. Malone. What's really funny is that even though 4-5 thousand people have died after receiving the vax, doctors claim the vax had nothing to do with the deaths. After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
originally posted by: ColeYounger
Politifact is saying the video is nonsense, and that spike protein is not dangerous. Source
U.S. public health authorities and vaccine experts say there is no evidence that the vaccines’ spike protein is toxic or “cytotoxic,” which means toxic to cells.
Experts say there is no evidence that the spike proteins produced by the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, or the spike protein created by genetic material in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, are toxic.
There you have it! "Experts" have debunked Dr. Malone. What's really funny is that even though 4-5 thousand people have died after receiving the vax, doctors claim the vax had nothing to do with the deaths. After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths.
Yes, but out of many millions who have been vaccinated quite a lot of those will die of natural causes, etc. Simple statistics.
Where is the evidence they died because of the vaccine?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
originally posted by: ColeYounger
Politifact is saying the video is nonsense, and that spike protein is not dangerous. Source
U.S. public health authorities and vaccine experts say there is no evidence that the vaccines’ spike protein is toxic or “cytotoxic,” which means toxic to cells.
Experts say there is no evidence that the spike proteins produced by the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, or the spike protein created by genetic material in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, are toxic.
There you have it! "Experts" have debunked Dr. Malone. What's really funny is that even though 4-5 thousand people have died after receiving the vax, doctors claim the vax had nothing to do with the deaths. After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths.
Yes, but out of many millions who have been vaccinated quite a lot of those will die of natural causes, etc. Simple statistics.
Where is the evidence they died because of the vaccine?
right next to the data of all who died "from covid", but not really "from Covid".
Yes, but out of many millions who have been vaccinated quite a lot of those will die of natural causes, etc. Simple statistics. Where is the evidence they died because of the vaccine?
David R. Walt, an expert in diagnostic testing from the Department of Pathology at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, said the study he jointly authored, which has been accepted for publication by the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, was intended to see if researchers could use an ultra-sensitive test to detect circulating antigens produced by mRNA vaccines.
“We found we could detect extremely low concentrations of S1 (a subunit of the spike protein) in 11 of 13 healthy vaccinated individuals and the full spike in 3 of 13,” Dr Walt told AAP FactCheck in an email.
However, he added that the presence of “minute” quantities of spike protein did not mean mRNA vaccines had the potential to cause serious harm.
“We actually found that within a few days of the antigen appearing, the individuals developed antibodies that removed the antigen from the bloodstream. Our conclusion was that the vaccine is working as intended,” he said.
An Australian biotechnology expert also told AAP FactCheck that the study has been misconstrued. University of Queensland (UQ) professor Trent Munro, who was involved in UQ’s development of a COVID-19 vaccine candidate last year, said in an email: “The (mRNA vaccine) dose used is very small, and is specifically designed to ensure a small amount of spike protein is produced from the injected RNA.
“During development, several dose levels were tested to identify a dose that is sufficient to provide the most robust immune response and protection against COVID-19 disease… There is no known ‘toxic’ effect of this process after mRNA vaccination, and studies will continue to monitor for any potential safety signals.”
The theory that the study discovered “toxic” spike proteins circulating in the bloodstream has been fuelled by comments made in a radio interview by Canadian immunologist Byram Bridle, an associate professor at Ontario Veterinary College.
Referring to the new research, Dr Bridle said there was now “clear-cut evidence” that the vaccine spike protein spreads into the bloodstream, where it has the potential to damage organs.
“In short, the conclusion is, we made a big mistake,” he said. “We never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein, so by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin.”
However, multiple vaccine experts have challenged Dr Bridle’s characterisation of how the vaccine works, saying the spike protein created by the vaccine acts differently to the spike protein of a live virus