NASA is studying UFOs again

NASA in the loop ...

On August 4, 2020, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced the establishment of the UAP Task Force (UAPTF). Its mission, according to the press release, was to “improve its understanding of, and gain insight into, the nature and origins of [Unidentified Aerial Phenomena] UAPs. The mission of the task force is to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs that could potentially pose a threat to U.S. national security.” The DoD noted that incursions within “training ranges or designated airspace” would be the primary focus, and since its creation, they have conducted classified briefings on the topic for The White House, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, and others.

Now, a new document sheds light on what else they were doing behind the scenes. In a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by The Black Vault, it was revealed by the response that in the first month after the establishment of the UAPTF, they initiated contact with NASA and requested that the task force brief NASA on UAPs in a secure setting.

But the exact reason WHY, remains unknown.


This presentation is a breakdown of the story.

The written version, with the documents, can be seen here: www.theblackvault.com...

NASA & The Classified UAPTF Briefing About UFOs

Link - www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: easynow
NASA in the loop ...

Thanks. NASA on the BCC list.

originally posted by: turbonium1
Rockets launched at night are commonly perceived as UFO's.

At twilight, mostly.

Collecting what witnesses THOUGHT they saw is very sobering, and has major implications for assessing other similar perceptions of as-yet unknown stimuli.

Once and awhile I do a ppt album of best shots, and of weirdest public reactions, here's a few recent ones [always looking for volunteers to do others] :

Florida Twilight Phenomenon of Atlas V 551 Rocket Launch of MUOS-4, Sep 2, 2015, 6.22 AM:

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Observations of the SpaceX launch on October 7, 2018:
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Public misinterpretations of the SpaceX launch on October 7, 2018:
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This was the Dec 22, 2017 Falcon 9 VAFB launch
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This Trident was five years ago
MISSILE FREAK-OUT IN CALIFORNIA [NOV 7, 2015]
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Nov 07, 2015 Trident SLBM launch off California
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originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: Ectoplasm8
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Obviously NASA would keep the originals hidden somewhere. There's nothing to be said to the general public, and if they ever did there would have to be a real serious reason. Why would they expose everything just for fun?
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So... the astronautical equivalent of " the dog ate my homework."

Study is most definitely not the agenda at Rocket Club

a reply to: game over man

Hahaha are you aware the US Government has said UFO/UAP's are real after 70 years of reports? The video footage "leaked" is by soldiers, air force pilots, and/or military staff. According to Joe Rogan, Christopher Mellon says the US Government 100% has way better video footage of UFO/UAP's than the grainy footage that's been released. The reason those are kept classified because it will compromise security for our top spy and defense technology.

It's funny how the blind belief of the UFO/ET cult have spun that comment to fit within their belief. In order to keep this nonsense alive they have no choice. There was never a statement by the government saying UFOs were piloted by ET. The statement was that there was no evidence of aliens but they leave the possibilty open. A statement that any rational thinking person would make. It's another stretch that has to be made to convince  themselves that we're being visited. This paranoia that everything is being hidden is foolish.
If you want to imagine anything, imagine is Russia or China being the first to break the news of visiting alien life. The power that country would have being the first to bring forward visual evidence. That's going to be hidden? How deeply have you thought this through instead of agreeing with the fabricated excuses why we have no convincing evidence after decades? Ridiculous.

With NASA, it would be so easy for NASA to cover up any UFO encounter because each mission is not worked on by all of a NASA. They can be up to maybe 300 people, but they're all doing different things. So if on a particular mission, if an encounter happened, not everyone working on the mission would know, because they would be busy working on something else with the mission.

NASA isn't the only space agency. Russia, China, Europe, Japan, and India have also launched spacecraft. The United States isn't the only presence in space. If spacecraft from elsewhere were visiting, other countries would be reporting it independent of NASA.

The ISS is generally thought as being a U.S. program. But as the name says, it's International. Russia operates a large section of the ISS. Russian cosmonaut Ivan Vagner was on the ISS last year and believed he filmed 5 UFOs. He posted the video on his Twitter account wondering what he witnessed. This act alone should show to UFO/ET believer crowd that there's no agenda to hide anything. Especially in the day of social media. Space.com said the following his sighting:

Russian cosmonaut Ivan Vagner has captured some truly amazing views of Earth from above as seen from the International Space Station, but his latest video of auroras included an unexpected surprise: five bright lights on the horizon that he dubbed 'space guests.' 
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They're likely satellites, not aliens, but still amazing to see for sure. The most likely
culprit is the Starlink broadband satellites SpaceX launched on Tuesday (Aug. 18), a day before Vagner shared his video

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Britian's Tim Peake believed he saw 4 craft flying towards him on the ISS. He watched several objects as they floated by and pointed them out to his NASA crewmates who were confused also. They realized the objects were close to them and were actually crystallized urine from a leaking Russian space probe.

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Astronauts are open to the possibility of visiting ET spacecraft and there's no hidden agenda. They want to believe as well as we do.
Look at the photographs claimed to be spacecraft. These were claimed to be ET by people like yourself. They turn out to be reflections. Look at the videos claimed to be spacecraft with a halo around them. They turn out to be ice crystals with an effect caused by the camera. Look at the spacecraft floating then quickly moving off. They turn out to be ice crystals that have been moved by the jets of the ISS. These start out as UFOs by your group. But once they are rationally explained, they aren't good enough. 
You need to focus your energy on Earth and why billions of people have phones and not one piece of convincing visual evidence has surfaced.

Saying Bob Lazar is the only person claiming evidence of Extra Terrestrials, is obviously not true

I can end this conversation pretty quickly. Link me to a single piece of physical evidence that has been throughly studied and shown to be created by extraterrestrials.
Lazar has said for decades that he has the physical evidence but has never shown it. Apparently just because his claim jibes with your belief, he can get away with making statements and no evidence. He's a BS artist that has a cursory knowledge of physics. Enough to fool those the don't go into a deeper understanding. Why does Lazar only do softball interviews? End some of the speculation of his education by being interviewed by an actual physicist. If he won't show this evidence, do something to support his claims.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8
"Russian cosmonaut Ivan Vagner was on the ISS last year and believed he filmed 5 UFOs. He posted the video on his Twitter account wondering what he witnessed."

As Vagner made clear in a subsequent post with another set of photos of a satellite train, he always knew they were Starlinks and just wanted to keep up public interest. He never for a moment suspected anything alien. Naturally, his second set of comments seem to have been totally blacked out in the UFO media.

Cosmonaut Vagner spots the ‘UFO parade’ again and admits he =ALWAYS= knew what they were.

Москва. 19 сентября. @t - Российский космонавт Иван Вагнер снова запечатлел с борта МКС группу летящих над Землей объектов, которые опознал как спутники. Он написал в своем твиттере, что с каждым разом этих спутников разом становится всё больше и больше. •

Moscow, Sept 19. Interfax. Russian cosmonaut Ivan Wagner again captured a group of objects flying over the Earth from the ISS, which he identified as satellites. He wrote on his Twitter that each time there are more and more of these satellites. •

Vagner tweet 4:07 AM · 19 сент. 2020 г. •И снова наши незнакомцы пролетели строем на 24-30 секундах нового космического @/timelapse. И тайна, по-видимому, раскрыта! Это спутники, которых с каждым разом становится всё больше и больше. Скоро так все небо будет в космических аппаратах! •

And again our strangers flew in formation for 24-30 seconds in a new space @/timelapse. And the secret appears to have been solved! These are satellites, which are becoming more and more numerous every time. Soon, the whole sky will be spacecraft!

a reply to: JimOberg

He shouldn't have been so ambiguous with his Twitter postings at the time on Aug 19. Making comments like:

At 9-12 seconds, 5 objects appear flying alongside with the same distance. What do you think those are? Meteors, satellites or…?

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P.P.S. The information was brought to the notice of Roscosmos management, the materials were sent to TsNIIMash and the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences for further analysis.

I'm sure he had a logical explanation at the time, but that only gets the UFO/ET believer crowd stirred.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

You literally quoted me and I said nothing about ET's and you went on a tangent about Astronauts misidentifying things in Space, when did I ever talk about that? Seems like you are on an agenda not me.

You didn't even comment on my reply why they would be covering it up. To protect their spy satellites for one. You're basically saying the best surveillance in space is astronaut's eyes and then gave examples of them making mistakes...ok...

a reply to: easynow

Well there's your checks and balances to wipe out UFOs from pictures. Or for the sake of your opinion "they could" wipe out UFOs from pictures. But you are actually of the belief that if there was a flying saucer in the background photo bombing a Mars Rover photo that it would be released to the public and posted on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook? With a funny caption and hashtag #ufo #uap ?? Are you serious???! Hahaha

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: Ectoplasm8
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Obviously NASA would keep the originals hidden somewhere. There's nothing to be said to the general public, and if they ever did there would have to be a real serious reason. Why would they expose everything just for fun?
.

So... the astronautical equivalent of " the dog ate my homework."

Huh? The dog ate my homework means you didn't do your homework and have nothing to turn in.

But you actually think that NASA would capture a flying saucer say near Jupiter in a clear photo and would be rushing to their social media accounts to upload the photo to the public and hashtag #sundayfunday ? So you're saying the corporate culture at NASA is as laid back and edgy as Vice Magazine?

ETA:
So all the absolute skeptics....you're also implying that all the Space Agencies world wide govt/public/private are the most transparent companies in the world? That before they rush to social media to post the flying saucer pic for fun that everyone in the entire organization would get to see it first because of all the space agencies international agreement of transparency?

a reply to: JimOberg

What's your favorite two NASA-related 'unexplainable' cases?

Here's a quote from you from 2009.

There's always a chance that something outside a spaceship window is important -- it's why NASA watches them. Usually it has to do with a malfunction of the spaceship, but it could be of scientific value as well -- all the way up to ET evidence.

found in this thread

Which is your favorites?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

Which is your favorites?

Kovalenok's.

have cosmonauts seen secret launches?
www.jamesoberg.com...

Your turn.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

Which is your favorites?

Kovalenok's.

have cosmonauts seen secret launches?
www.jamesoberg.com...

Your turn.

Here's one...

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Ed Mitchell believed a lot of things, but never witnessed anything.

Jim O'berg you dodged my post, please address this, it's important:

If NASA spots an unknown space craft they will no doubt share this information and photo to everyone in NASA and to every space agency and then release the photo on all their social media platforms?

The way you rebuttal everything you make it seem like NASA has in writing a policy to share UFO information transparently within the organization and the public.

Can you explain this more clearly? I'm surprised the military would be in agreement with this.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: Ectoplasm8
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Obviously NASA would keep the originals hidden somewhere. There's nothing to be said to the general public, and if they ever did there would have to be a real serious reason. Why would they expose everything just for fun?
.

So... the astronautical equivalent of " the dog ate my homework."

Seeing as how they lost the clear, original tapes of the first steps Armstrong took on the Moon -- of minor historical significance, sure -- they aren't really known for keeping track of their stuff.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Here's one...

Mitchell saw a UFO [the theme of this thread]? I must have missed it.

originally posted by: game over man
Jim O'berg you dodged my post, please address this, it's important:

If NASA spots an unknown space craft ....

Well, Mitchell did complain that NASA never even considered the contingency and had no in-place procedure to handle it. Mitchell thought they should have.

I've posted this before. In Mission Control we were ALWAYS looking for unexpected stuff outside, for good reason – sometime it has been a clue to lethal threats, and at least one visible warning had been overlooked and a crew had died as a result. . Anything unidentifiable that cannot be determined to be non-hazardous is an alarm requiring immediate team attention. Such sightings are not hushed up or shunted to a secret underground facility for out-of-sight analysis, they are focused on by the entire team. It’s a matter of life and death. So the notion that anybody in space or in Mission Control would close their eyes to any 'unknown' is preposterous -- and insulting.
06/12/2008 - MSNBC.com: Why NASA watches out for true UFOs
Why NASA watches out for true UFOs (nbcnews.com)
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