China threatens nuclear war.

originally posted by: viviantzamis
No ICBMs have ever been used in conflict
So how do you know they work
If they miss their target by 2 miles--what good are they except for delivering nukes---& you cant arm a nuke in mid-flight
As fake as the Iron Dome
Proper anti-missile systems would mean the end of the Military
And thats not about to happen


a reply to: horatio321

I'm really not understanding your logic at all. The reason why we haven't been vaporised already is that extraordinary lengths have been gone to, to ensure that any country aggressive enough to strike first would also be destroyed. Mutually Assured Destruction.

Whilst this deters rational nations, there's an ever present risk, that one day, someone will be mad enough to strike first regardless of the outcome.

Between nuclear capable stealthy aircraft, ICBM's, Hypersonic vehicles, Subs, dirty bombs, EMP weapons etc - there are lots of exciting ways that we could destroy ourselves completely.

Yet you think that if a Tsar Bomba misses it's target by 2 miles that the outcome would be massively different for humanity?

Nuclear weapons are real. The delivery systems are real. Systems that endeavour to intercept them are real. More than that I am not at liberty to say.

The large numbers of nuclear weapons that all the nuclear powers hold - if used - would erase all trace of life on the surface of the earth very quickly. Even if a percentage of them failed to work properly.

Perhaps people doubt China's nuclear capability, but one should never underestimate your enemy, especially at a time of war.

If missiles were launched, from any of the sides involved, it would likely trigger 'tactical' responses from all the nuclear powers. The outcome would be... 'very bad' for everyone.

I guess if insisting nuclear weapons are all a big, funny hoax helps you sleep easier, so be it.

a reply to: horatio321

Did the Star Wars Space Weapons Platform exist
No
It was deception--a psychological weapon

If all these weapons existed--then how do you explain why non-nuclear nations stood up against the US
From Korea Vietnam Iraq to Syrian Freedom fighters successfully standing their ground-- despite constant bombing by both Russia & NATO

The mere fact that they pretend India has nukes--proves its a Lie
As if anyone in their right mind would arm a 3rd world nation
Strategic Tension is all you need as a deterrent

Predictably there are9nuclear nations
An interesting club
US Russia UK France China Nth Korea India Pakistan Israel
the last 3 ex-British controlled nations

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: horatio321

Is this some kind of joke from bird face network?

Or are you joe, and can't find the pudding again?

CCP just threatened to nuke the United States if we dare to investigate their bio warfare 'accident'.

Real weapons or not, is that how you think civilized nations should behave?

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

China has to pretend to threat the West

The fake epidemic was staged to hoodwink the Chinese people
Unlike the West--the Chinese arent used to getting robbed by engineered Economic crashes every few years
So they had to stage a Global Crisis--something that can be blamed for the next Big Crash
To prevent them hanging their leaders when the SHTF

Thats why the fake pandemic had to start in China
China will blame the West
The West will blame China
Strategic Tension--World tittering on War---always keeps the world populations anxious--submissive
Reluctant to criticize their own Govt

a reply to: viviantzamis

Nice try.

This was not a pretend threat.

Or imaginary weapons.

CCP just threatened to Nuke the United States.

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: horatio321

Did the Star Wars Space Weapons Platform exist
No
It was deception--a psychological weapon

If all these weapons existed--then how do you explain why non-nuclear nations stood up against the US
From Korea Vietnam Iraq to Syrian Freedom fighters successfully standing their ground-- despite constant bombing by both Russia & NATO

The mere fact that they pretend India has nukes--proves its a Lie
As if anyone in their right mind would arm a 3rd world nation
Strategic Tension is all you need as a deterrent

Predictably there are9nuclear nations
An interesting club
US Russia UK France China Nth Korea India Pakistan Israel
the last 3 ex-British controlled nations

I can't comment on Ronald's Star Wars defence system. Real, concept or psyops - whatever - it has no bearing on the reality of nuclear warfare.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were real enough at the dawn of the nuclear age.

a reply to: viviantzamis

I have no idea what is going on in your head.
Nuclear weapons not real?
Wow.

I've read some absolute nonsense in my time here on ATS, that is up there with the best of them.
And all on your first day here; that's some first impression you've made.

How would 'pretending' India had nuclear capability 'prove' the lie?

..... India Pakistan Israel
the last 3 ex-British controlled nations

What is the relevance of this?
What point are you trying to make or are alluding to?

If all these weapons existed--then how do you explain why non-nuclear nations stood up against the US

Because the United States restrained from nuking them back to the Stone Age.

Same as Russia and believe it or not China.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were lessons that are imprinted on the human consciousness.

You do understand M.A.D. don't you?

The fake epidemic was staged to hoodwink the Chinese people

Why?
Please explain.

a reply to: Freeborn

"The fake epidemic was staged to hoodwink the Chinese people"

The Chinese people believe everything CCP tells them to believe.

Or family starts disappearing.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Yeah, I get that.
But what do they achieve by lying to their own population?
They are already heavily governed and controlled.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Yeah, I get that.
But what do they achieve by lying to their own population?
They are already heavily governed and controlled.

That was my point.

There is NO reason for anyone to attempt to hoodwink the Chinese people.

CCP can do it at any time, on any subject.

No covid required.

But that IS one of the narratives that CCP is currently telling the Chinese people about covid.

And, already being brainwashed, most are likely to believe this absurd CCP narrative.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Yeah, I get that.
But what do they achieve by lying to their own population?
They are already heavily governed and controlled.

That was my point.

There is NO reason for anyone to attempt to hoodwink the Chinese people.

CCP can do it at any time, on any subject.

No covid required.

But that IS one of the narratives that CCP is currently telling the Chinese people about covid.

And, already being brainwashed, most are likely to believe this absurd CCP narrative.

Ah. The old other folk are brainwashed sheep thing. Except for you, who is "so" awoke.

That's just tedious. And absurd. Matey.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

So don't know anything about CCP?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No.

Talking to yourself is not a good thing.

Seems Biden is not exactly a friend of China.

He is a friend of NATO.

Unlike your former POTUS.

Sorry if that wees on your cornflakes.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No.

Talking to yourself is not a good thing.

Seems Biden is not exactly a friend of China.

He is a friend of NATO.

Unlike your former POTUS.

Sorry if that wees on your cornflakes.

Thank you for such a mature post.

Do you have ANY evidence that joe isn't a friend of China?

Because he and his party have spent an awful lot of energy both defending china, and ridiculing Trump's efforts to slow down their insanity for the past 5 years.

Same for your Trump NATO claim.

Trump spent a lot of energy trying to get Europeans to finally invest their fair share.

To STRENGTHEN NATO.

While joe only seems interested in picking some kind of fight with putin.

Yeah, that sure helps NATO.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No.

Talking to yourself is not a good thing.

Seems Biden is not exactly a friend of China.

He is a friend of NATO.

Unlike your former POTUS.

Sorry if that wees on your cornflakes.

Thank you for such a mature post.

Do you have ANY evidence that joe isn't a friend of China?

Because he and his party have spent an awful lot of energy both defending china, and ridiculing Trump's efforts to slow down their insanity for the past 5 years.

Same for your Trump NATO claim.

Trump spent a lot of energy trying to get Europeans to finally invest their fair share.

To STRENGTHEN NATO.

While joe only seems interested in picking some kind of fight with putin.

Yeah, that sure helps NATO.

Ahem. Not keeping up are we?

www.theguardian.com...

Good night.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Article says exactly the same thing I did.

Trump put pressure on Europeans to finally pay their fair share to strengthen NATO.

Europeans got Feelz and called orange man names.

Now joe says U.S. will continue paying a big chunk of Europe's share and Europeans are happy.

Am keeping up just fine.

But suggest you find a different source for absurd claims.

This one proves the opposite.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Article says exactly the same thing I did.

Trump put pressure on Europeans to finally pay their fair share to strengthen NATO.

Europeans got Feelz and called orange man names.

Now joe says U.S. will continue paying a big chunk of Europe's share and Europeans are happy.

Am keeping up just fine.

But suggest you find a different source for absurd claims.

This one proves the opposite.

Look. Goodnight. Bye Bye. Troll your bait somewhere else. Not biting.

Mushra reply to: Freeborn

Hiroshima was not a nuke
Nukes give off radiation which is invisible
Mushroom clouds are formed from expanding gases & dust--not nukes--conventional mega bombs

Chinese people arent as controlled as you think
Unlike Western nations--communist nations promise their people an end to poverty & unemployment
They submit to Authority--only under the proviso that they deliver on their promises
So when the SHFT Chinese leadership needs a very good excuse why the Economy Crashes

a reply to: horatio321

Hiroshima & Nagasaki were conventional explosions--mega bombs
Both places lie on the 33rd parallel
Where alot of masonic malarkey is staged