China threatens nuclear war.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

We need to learn to build a better Zoo or rather learn to build something that will build us a better Zoo.

Our main dilemmas steam from our limited longevity and penchant to repeat the past historical transgressions as generations gone by.

We refuse to learn from history, because history is a lie written by the victors and seldom the vanquished.

Here's the rub the information age we now live in is changing the way we record history and even the basic Human paradigm we follow.

That being said we require a kick in the arse because a measures of equality hurt, to many have nots and far to few haves you see.

originally posted by: andy06shake


Here's the rub the information age we now live in is changing the way we record history and even the basic Human paradigm we follow.

That being said we require a kick in the arse because a measures of equality hurt, to many have nots and far to few haves you see.

It has been that way for 10,000 years. The information age simply caused us to become aware of it.

Hundreds, or thousands, would toil away barely getting enough to eat, so that one person could live in a mansion and "supervise".


History isn't only told by the victors. It is also told by the rich.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

That awareness is the ticket through.

You see information and data has a flow and ebb to it all.

Billions toil away in this day of age so that the few may remain tucked away tight and safe in there Ivory towers.

The victors generally tend to be the rich and empowered bloodymarvelous, hence the reason they record the stories aka history as we understand the concept.

The concept is changing however, being refined, humanity has never known an age like the information age, in all the years they have been around the Sun.

a reply to: andy06shake

The more I look into SARS-CoV-2, the more underhanded everything looks. Whilst nasty strains of flu and other Viruses crop up from time to time, there's a number of things that are decidedly suspicious.

It's not just about the lab in Wuhan, either. Other labs have been collaborating with numerous Chinese virologists including the BSL3 at the University of North Carolina, the Australian Animal Health Laboratory (where they received grants from the Chinese Ministry of Science!) and The Canadian National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg. With the latter, the University of Manitoba ended all appointments with Chinese virologists Xiangguo Qiu and her husband Keding Cheng (who also works for the Chinese Bio Warfare) , forcibly removed them, cautioned staff not to travel to China on July 5th - before the pandemic started.

There's more, much more, and it's very interesting.

LOL, can you imagine what those poor conscripts of the PLA, sitting in armor with "made in China" stamped all over the place, must be going through? 🤣🤣🤣

Footage of staff from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, with live bats hanging off their hats, will do nothing to quell the hypothesis that this was a manipulated virus that infected their own staff.

Bats that they told the world that they DIDN'T HAVE at the lab. Bats, Pangolins - the nearest bat colony was hundreds of miles away from Wuhan where ground zero was.

However, the Gain of Function experiments - specifically designed to increase the infection rate in humans, is hardly something you'd want to advertise once it 'got out' - either by design or by accident. Obviously, if it were an accident, the only right thing to do would be to suck it up, close the borders and warn the rest of world BEFORE the new year. Instead, a medical professional, Li Wenliang, trying to warn the world was silenced, put under investigation and then died of heart failure - apparently after contracting the virus himself.

At first glance, SARS-CoV-2 as a hypothetical weaponised biological agent seems very poor - there are far more deadly bio weapons out there, right? However, dispersal of biological weapons, delivery (warheads, aerosols or other methods) are very difficult to trial.

Not only did SARS-CoV-2 'disperse' readily, it caused 3.8 megadeaths worldwide. It also caused $3.5 trillion in financial loss. The cost to China is expected to be 2.7% of it's GDP.

Compare this to other nations - like the UK - and the cost is nearer to 8.6% GDP.
Italy - 4.7% GDP,
Canada - 5.3% GDP

Geopolitically, China may have to face a much higher cost - only time will tell. Certainly from the rhetoric, China are not above sabre rattling, threatening the US with nuclear war. This would also mean fiery death for most of the rest of the world, too, should it come to that.

The virus itself is the least of our worries now.

a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

So why don't you enlist and do something to "fix" it instead of being yet another keyboard warrior on ATS?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

So why don't you enlist and do something to "fix" it instead of being yet another keyboard warrior on ATS?

I'm far from a keyboard warrior and my posts are few and far between - I mainly lurk and post when there is something to say. Like when I read about Isaac Koi being manipulated by the liars he called out. That sort of thing.

I'm in the UK and already bound for life with the MOD.

'Fxing' this is going to require a multi-faceted approach from several countries and isn't going to happen overnight.

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

"Volunteers"

You do realize there is no such thing in CCP?

Chinese cant make a decent toaster
Nukes are one of the Globalists biggest Lies
US & Russia kept the world in submission for decades based on this Hoax
You cant trigger a nuclear reaction on a missile in mid-flight

This will be a Wag-the-Dog Hoax War
The Chinese didnt build any artificial islands
They're fake islands--CGI--somewhere to conduct an imaginary war--CGI explosions--bombings---for the distraction of the Gamer Generation

a reply to: Fmart

originally posted by: viviantzamis
Chinese cant make a decent toaster
Nukes are one of the Globalists biggest Lies
US & Russia kept the world in submission for decades based on this Hoax
You cant trigger a nuclear reaction on a missile in mid-flight

This will be a Wag-the-Dog Hoax War
The Chinese didnt build any artificial islands
They're fake islands--CGI--somewhere to conduct an imaginary war--CGI explosions--bombings---for the distraction of the Gamer Generation

a reply to: Fmart

Thank you for educating us.

But I saw that cartoon yesterday.

Except Goofy made more sense in the cartoon version.

a reply to: horatio321

Like when I read about Isaac Koi being manipulated by the liars he called out.

Isaac Koi.
One of ATS's genuine all-time greats.

Not really relevant but maybe some of the newer members will look him up and get into some of his brilliant threads.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

"Volunteers"

You do realize there is no such thing in CCP?

Possibly - but they have such a large population, they only need a small percentage of 'loyal' subscribers.

But official conscription hasn't happened since 1949. That's not to say they don't manipulate and otherwise coerce the population with 'social scoring' etc.

I hear you.

originally posted by: horatio321

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: vance

The Chinese have had plenty of volunteers - they haven't conscripted since 1949.

That said, there's been a fair bit of unrest lately.

Those little blue masks that we all wear now - they're all made in China, also.

So much stuff to fix, so little time. 🤞

"Volunteers"

You do realize there is no such thing in CCP?

Possibly - but they have such a large population, they only need a small percentage of 'loyal' subscribers.

But official conscription hasn't happened since 1949. That's not to say they don't manipulate and otherwise coerce the population with 'social scoring' etc.

I hear you.

Completely brainwashed and 'selected' by neighborhood CCP committee at young age.

There is no such thing as 'volunteer' in CCP.

Yeah, you might remember that something else also started in 1949.

originally posted by: viviantzamis

Nukes are one of the Globalists biggest Lies
US & Russia kept the world in submission for decades based on this Hoax

So ICBM's aren't real, nor the hyper velocity delivery systems? It's all just a figment to keep us in fear. Okaaaaay.....

No ICBMs have ever been used in conflict
So how do you know they work
If they miss their target by 2 miles--what good are they except for delivering nukes---& you cant arm a nuke in mid-flight
As fake as the Iron Dome
Proper anti-missile systems would mean the end of the Military
And thats not about to happen


a reply to: horatio321

originally posted by: viviantzamis
No ICBMs have ever been used in conflict
So how do you know they work
If they miss their target by 2 miles--what good are they except for delivering nukes---& you cant arm a nuke in mid-flight
As fake as the Iron Dome
Proper anti-missile systems would mean the end of the Military
And thats not about to happen
a reply to: horatio321

I hear some have trouble getting within 20 miles.

Or even off the ground.

While others can put one inside a window.

Are you saying they are all fake?

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

rockets exist--but it doesnt mean they can hit targets
even small range missiles only hit their targets 25% of the time
Easier & cheaper just dropping bombs on targets

Long-distance missiles take so long to reach their targets that the enemy has plenty of time to intercept
It takes 30 min for a missile to go from Russia to UK

Missiles are a lovely money-earner for the Military Mafia
Unlike tanks etc--missiles are one-use only
At more than $1-3 million each
Jackpot

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

rockets exist--but it doesnt mean they can hit targets
even small range missiles only hit their targets 25% of the time
Easier & cheaper just dropping bombs on targets

Long-distance missiles take so long to reach their targets that the enemy has plenty of time to intercept
It takes 30 min for a missile to go from Russia to UK

Missiles are a lovely money-earner for the Military Mafia
Unlike tanks etc--missiles are one-use only
At more than $1-3 million each
Jackpot

Anyone ever tell you that you sound a lot like joe?

So, if I understand your 'logic', we shouldn't fear the recent CCP nuke threat?

Is that the point you are trying to make?