China threatens nuclear war.

a reply to: viviantzamis

I haven't got two hours so would have appreciated a brief summary.

But I did skip through it.
Got to the bit about the NASA satellite SUNRISE.
He makes a big thing about it being launched by balloon from a base in Sweden.
Big conspiracy.
Why are NASA launching 'satellites' by balloon from Sweden?

Well, go to NASA's website and it will explain it all.
Its NOT a satellite, it's a Solar Observatory.
It was launched in Sweden, twice as far as I can make out, suspended beneath a balloon approximately 20 miles above the earth.
As it is clear of most of the earth's atmosphere it get gets an excellent view of the Sun and sunspot activity and study its magnetic fields.

The balloon drifts with the currents westwards over Greenland to Canada.
The journey took 8 days before the balloon is brought to earth and the data examined.

www.nasa.gov...

The clearest images of the sun are obtained by instruments above the disruptions of Earth's atmosphere, so scientists naturally use every option possible to get instruments into space. NASA has a range of solar telescopes flying on spacecraft, but it makes use of other technology as well - including balloons.

This summer, the NASA Scientific Balloon Program will launch, for the second time, the largest solar telescope ever to leave the ground. The telescope, SUNRISE, is a high-resolution solar observatory that can observe the structure and dynamics of the sun's magnetic field, down to a resolution of about 60 miles across. Observing the dance of the sun's magnetic fields helps scientists understand what governs its dynamic solar cycle: The sun's magnetic poles flip approximately every 11 years leading to periods of intense magnetic activity on the sun that come with a variety of solar eruptions.

This is the second Long Duration Balloon flight for the SUNRISE instrument. The first flight occurred in 2009. The team gathered large amounts of unique science data during its maiden flight, which occurred while the sun's activity was minimal.

"For this trip, the new solar cycle has started. We expect to see all sorts of interesting magnetic features on the sun," said Solanki]/ex]

No great mystery.
No conspiracy.

From what I've seen the video is bollocks.

NASA does use balloons....but they also use rockets.

a reply to: Freeborn

you deliberately overlooked the names of some of those balloons
why would they call it Mir--the original name of the space station
as i said i havent got time to go thru everything in detail
you want to ignore the obvious---who cares
and keep ingesting NASA Lies--they're good at explaining away everything
They just cant explain how the original footage & data of the Apollo 11 landing mysteriously disappeared--they just cant find it

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Freeborn

you deliberately overlooked the names of some of those balloons
why would they call it Mir--the original name of the space station
as i said i havent got time to go thru everything in detail
you want to ignore the obvious---who cares
and keep ingesting NASA Lies--they're good at explaining away everything
They just cant explain how the original footage & data of the Apollo 11 landing mysteriously disappeared--they just cant find it

Are you seriously asking why someone might ignore the nonsense you post?

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

far from ignoring my posts--you & others are trolling me
meaning that you are desperate to discourage others reading my posts
Why not just ignore my posts--allow people to make up their own minds
Becos at the back of your mind--you know the info rings true

Cognitive dissonance is a b*tch

You provide some entertainment value.

But wouldn't want others to think that anyone else here is that stupid.

Or that CCP.

Your posts would be laughed at by young children here.

Tell us again about Tiananmen Massacre.

And your views about how rockets, satellites, moon, and sun are all fake.

And none of that is even remotely on the topic of CCP threatening to nuke anyone who questions the CCP's alternate reality.

a reply to: viviantzamis

you deliberately overlooked the names of some of those balloons

Err....no I didn't.

I took one example that the narrator of the video mentioned at length.
He repeatedly states that NASA were sending satellites into the atmosphere using balloons.
They aren't.
They were very transparent about this and anyone who bothered to do even low level research on SUNRISE would have found this out.

Quite surprisingly you fail to comment on this.

As for MIR;
It took me literally a couple of seconds to find out that this isn't the MIR Space Station but rather, you guessed it, a balloon carried piece of technology designed to monitor

gravity waves in the Arctic polar vortex during the SAGE III-Ozone Loss and Validation Experiment and Third European Stratospheric Experiment on Ozone 2000 (SOLVE/THESEO) campaign.

www.researchgate.net...
adsabs.harvard.edu...

No great mystery.
Its there for all to see.
Total transparency.

.....you & others are trolling me

Nonsense.
This is a discussion based site.
If you just want people to nod their heads and agree with what you post and not to examine, dissect and comment then I'd suggest that maybe ATS is not the site for you.

If that upsets you, well.....

....meaning that you are desperate to discourage others reading my posts

Au contraire.
I want to bring attention to your posts.
The more people that read the nonsense you are posting and give their opinion the better as far as I'm concerned.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Tienanmen massacre didnt happen as reported

Dont you find it odd that the Tank Man incident was filmed at just the right position & angle--- staged right in front of a hotel filled with Western journos
Where's all the rest of the footage of the massacres
Surely the journalists captured many other images from their hotel windows

So nice of the Chinese Govt to let them into the country to report the demonstrators camped out for weeks in the Square
And the Govt didnt even confiscate the footage when the SHTF
Yeah right

All student riots are staged by the Globalists
Reverse pyschology at work
Riots & protests are staged to push population to demand more law & order= more authoritarianism
what do you think the staged BLM riots are about
To push americans to the far right

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

And none of that is even remotely on the topic of CCP threatening to nuke anyone who questions the CCP's alternate reality.

Very true.

But its a welcome comic relief from all the 'Red's under the bed' paranoia and 'Biden bad, Trump good', 'The Return of Trump' obsessions that seems to be gripping ATS at present.

a reply to: viviantzamis

A bit of genuinely well intentioned advice;
Why not start a thread on The Tiananmen Square protests or even about your belief that 'All student riots are staged by the Globalists'?

ETA

Same goes for your belief that there are no satellites.
Start a thread about that and I'm sure you'll get quite a bit of traffic.
There are some great minds here on ATS and it'd be interesting to see their take on your hypothesis.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

And none of that is even remotely on the topic of CCP threatening to nuke anyone who questions the CCP's alternate reality.

Very true.

But its a welcome comic relief from all the 'Red's under the bed' paranoia and 'Biden bad, Trump good', 'The Return of Trump' obsessions that seems to be gripping ATS at present.

I agree.

joe has been giving us way to much material lately.

My gut has hurt from the laughter for weeks.


I am a (sometimes reluctant) Trump supporter, and am very excited about AZ Audit (been waiting decades for this), but have zero interest in the Trump is returning stuff.

But entertaining sometimes.

a reply to: Freeborn

as usual you are deliberately acting obtuse

Why did they call the balloon MIR
The same name as the space station
Becos they liked the sound of the name
But becos its acting as the fake space station--not taking readings in the arctic

all you are doing is quoting NASA BS cover stories
Thats not proof of anything

Nor are you refuting anything
I have planted the seed of doubt
and you are desperately trying to control the damage
But its too late
people will investigate the truth behind these Hoaxes for themselves
You trying to counter my arguments using NASA as a source--only makes people wonder what you're trying to hide
Its all out there if people want more info
Unlike you--people will watch the full 2 hr video link & all the other sites
Including Wagging the Moondoggie which goes into the Space Race Hoax in some detail

a reply to: viviantzamis

You know nothing about me.

I assure you, no seed of doubt has been sown.

As previously posted; start a couple of threads.
I'm sure they'll prove illuminating.

a reply to: viviantzamis

as usual you are deliberately acting obtuse

I'm not being 'obtuse', I simply disagree with you.

If they wanted to cover this up don't you think they would have called it by another name?
Don't have to be a cover-up expert to think of that.

Do you think the plot to assassinate JFK was called ' The Let's Kill President Kennedy Plot' by the conspirators?

all you are doing is quoting NASA BS cover stories

So, any attempt to explain is a 'cover story'?

And all you are doing is quoting what some random person has posted on YouTube.

....only makes people wonder what you're trying to hide

If I were to reveal that I would blow my cover....and then I would no option but to hunt you down!

FFS, grow up.

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Tienanmen massacre didnt happen as reported

Dont you find it odd that the Tank Man incident was filmed at just the right position & angle--- staged right in front of a hotel filled with Western journos
Where's all the rest of the footage of the massacres
Surely the journalists captured many other images from their hotel windows

So nice of the Chinese Govt to let them into the country to report the demonstrators camped out for weeks in the Square
And the Govt didnt even confiscate the footage when the SHTF
Yeah right

All student riots are staged by the Globalists
Reverse pyschology at work
Riots & protests are staged to push population to demand more law & order= more authoritarianism
what do you think the staged BLM riots are about
To push americans to the far right

That is one of the most insulting things I've ever read on ATS.

I personally KNOW what happened that day from my own ears.

My father KNOWS from his own ears AND eyes.

And nose, unfortunately.

And while CCP stole gear, they have failed to kill all witnesses.

Though they were successful at killing most Chinese witnesses.

You will convince nobody here that CCP Tiananmen story is even remotely close to accurate.

Not while I'm alive anyway.



Please also note:

There are many great ATS members with family and friends still trapped in China.

And NONE of them are coming to your defense on any of these absurd posts.

Very wise people, those users.

They are 100% aware of CCP killers.

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Freeborn

so instead of 3 CIA Glowies to 1--you want me to be trolled by more

Perhaps that explains Vietnam

Who knows maybe some day US may win a war
Like all bullies you only go after 3rd worlders
And even then they kicked your super-power fake nuke arses

I see your english has suddenly improved quite a bit!

Reinforcements maybe?


So maybe YOU can explain why CCP is suddenly making nuke threats if anyone dares to investigate the china virus origins?

originally posted by: viviantzamis
a reply to: Freeborn

your use of the word illuminating is very illuminating---Glowie

The seed of doubt doesnt refer to trolls like yourself--but to anyone who may stumble across this thread
and may wonder why 3 trolls are trying so desperately to push the NASA narrative
so you have defeated your purpose--sunshine

Yup, suddenly much better english.

Faking before?

Faking now?

Different person?

Just screwed up?



Don't really care.

Saw it long before responding to your posts.


And still no effort to explain why CCP is making nuke threats over covid investigation.



ETA:

I do worry that sudden change in language skills might mean that CCP just murdered another person for words.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

apart from the hysterics & paranoia--you still havent explained why China allowed western journalists into China during weeks of demonstrations--allowed them to position themselves in a hotel facing Tianamen Square
Let them take footage of Tank man
But for some reason these western journalists didnt take any footage of the actual masscares

People died on both sides
Thats what 'student' activist riots are supposed to do
terrorize the public into submission--demand more law & order

PS--the Newsweek journalist who photographed Tank Man was named Charlie Cole= CC=33= Masonic numerology
Charlie Cole died exactly 30 yrs + 3 months after taking the photo of Tank Man
5 June 1989 to 5 Sept 2019
30yrs + 3months = 33
You dont see anything strange about that
Masonic Brotherhood is laughing at you

a reply to: viviantzamis


We were already there.

And protected from CCP by brave U.S. Marines.

And freedom loving Chinese patriots.

All of whom were killed by the end of 1989.


Thanks again for all the jibberish.

But wish you had something honest to say.