100th Anniversary Of The Tulsa Race Massacre.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
LOL I can't believe how mad you are about this. Democrats wanted slaves back then.

Why would I be mad? History is history and in this case southern conservatives were both Democrats and slave owners. I'm discussing the demographic, you're fixated on the little letter they stick next to their name.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm glad you admit you're fixated on demographics. I'm fixated on moral principles, you know, the whole idea behind political parties. But I wouldn't expect a Democrat to understand anything like principles. They're much more fixated on "demographics" than they are principles.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
I'm glad you admit you're fixated on demographics.

Yeah, because those are what matter and which is why it's funny to see people conflate parties with demographics. I'm not sure why you have a hard time grasping that the geographic demographics are mostly unchanged despite the party affiliation changing. Parties are irrelevant, they can adapt to absorb target groups or completely change like the Democrat and Republican parties have.

At one time the Democrat Party was conservative and the Republican Party progressive, now it is reversed.

Oh, and nice try pegging me as a Democrat when I despise both parties. They both don't care about my rights.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Parties are irrelevant, they can adapt to absorb target groups or completely change like the Democrat and Republican parties have.

If that were true, I'd be wrong. Yet even you are unable to contend that I'm wrong about the dems supporting modern day slavery. Because it is blatantly obvious they do. And we haven't even skimmed the surface of the democrats accepting anti-semitism, segregation, racism, et al. (how progressive lmao).

I'm thoroughly enjoying how much this burns you up inside. It's obvious by your refusal to accept the fact that the parties haven't really changed at all in the last 100 years on these race issues. Republicans have always said people are people and dems have always said some people are more people than other people. Not to discount the progress that has been made, but each step of the way the dems have found themselves on the wrong side of the race issue.

Slavery, segregation, women's suffrage, Jim crow laws, affirmative action, critical race theory, anti-racism, illegal immigration, men in women's sports. All democrats. All evil. Spanning from the time the country was founded to today. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
If that were true, I'd be wrong.

Well, I guess you need to deal with being wrong, the demographics switched since the 1860's.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Plunging the depths of pathetic clinging is a beautiful thing to watch. The entertainment level is off the charts!

a reply to: Dfairlite

Where did most Democrats live in the 1860's? Where do most Republicans live now?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

A: 1860, the south. Today, everywhere but the biggest cities. Were you making a point of some kind? If so it seems lost in reality.

Now let me ask you some questions:
Which party wanted slaves then? Which one wants them now? Which party was openly racist then? Which party is openly racist now?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
A: 1860, the south. Today, everywhere but the biggest cities.

Exactly, the conservative demographic. Thanks for playing, you've reached your goal of understanding how parties can change demographics.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

you've reached your goal of understanding how parties can change demographics.

Wait so now you are acknowledging that it is indeed the republican party that has reformed people? But I thought that your position this whole time was that the republican party is now backwards because they have a bunch of "conservatives" in their ranks. Isn't that what you meant when you said that demographics are what matter, not the party?

It seems you've twisted yourself into a pretzel by trying to win on technicality rather than on principle. I hate to see it... Jk I love to see it.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
Wait so now you are acknowledging that it is indeed the republican party that has reformed people?

I'm discussing the demographic composition, try to follow along.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It's tough to follow along when you keep changing what you're talking about. First it was ideologies, then it was geography, now it's demographics. It's like it morphs each time you're confronted with the simple truth that the dems are and have always been the racists.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
It's tough to follow along when you keep changing what you're talking about. First it was ideologies, then it was geography, now it's demographics.

Demographics covers all of that, it's why it's called 'demographics'.

Should I get the definition out for you?

Statistical data relating to the population and particular groups within it.

Hopefully this helps you but I doubt it will since you're fixated on party names and not which demographics comprised those parties over their lifespan.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It's funny. Remove a statue of a traitorous Confederate and a certain group of people tell us that we're trying to erase history. Try to actually discuss a dark moment from our history and those same people tell us how it's pointless to it up.

It's almost like those people aren't concerned about protecting history. They just want monuments that celebrate people that were on the wrong side of history.

Great point, well said.

Is that what is going on here? People don't want to discuss this? That's really weird.

Do conservatives think the victims from the massacre are going to rise from the dead and come for you? They're dead. There's nothing to worry about.

a reply to: game over man

None of that is happening. What's happening is the democrats and the left are trying to stoke up racism (their tried and true tactic) and we are trying to make sure that the real racists are recognized. This attack was done by the kkk, the dems enforcement wing. But as they tell it, racist Republicans are to blame.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I don't think you are very good at reading. Or maybe it's just comprehending what you read that is the trouble.

Geography doesn't apply to Demographics, but demographics apply to geography. Demographics don't apply to ideology, but ideology does apply to demographics.

So no, it doesn't help because you seem to be so far out of your intellectual depth that you can't even comprehend the difference in the relationships between demographics, ideology, and geography. Thing is, I know you're smart enough to grasp these concepts but since you've twisted yourself into a pretzel to try to win, you've been forced to pretend you don't.

And that's where I'll end this unless you have a new tactic you'd like to try. I'm bored of your word games and attempts to play dumb to achieve some sort of victory where there is none to be had.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
Geography doesn't apply to Demographics, but demographics apply to geography. Demographics don't apply to ideology, but ideology does apply to demographics.

Funny man.

We've already established who voted Democrat in the 1850's/60's and where they lived. We already know their demographics, their ideology and their geographic location: they were southern conservatives.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: game over man

None of that is happening. What's happening is the democrats and the left are trying to stoke up racism (their tried and true tactic) and we are trying to make sure that the real racists are recognized. This attack was done by the kkk, the dems enforcement wing. But as they tell it, racist Republicans are to blame.

Dems/Repubs were all white supremacists back then, and basically still are. Don't be offensive.

originally posted by: game over man

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: game over man

None of that is happening. What's happening is the democrats and the left are trying to stoke up racism (their tried and true tactic) and we are trying to make sure that the real racists are recognized. This attack was done by the kkk, the dems enforcement wing. But as they tell it, racist Republicans are to blame.

Dems/Repubs were all white supremacists back then, and basically still are. Don't be offensive.

No, no no..it's not how ATS works, it goes like this. Your guys are bad, my guys are good!..understand now?

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: game over man

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: game over man

None of that is happening. What's happening is the democrats and the left are trying to stoke up racism (their tried and true tactic) and we are trying to make sure that the real racists are recognized. This attack was done by the kkk, the dems enforcement wing. But as they tell it, racist Republicans are to blame.

Dems/Repubs were all white supremacists back then, and basically still are. Don't be offensive.

No, no no..it's not how ATS works, it goes like this. Your guys are bad, my guys are good!..understand now?

It's even worse, the right is being SUPER racist saying that Black People did not push for Juneteenth or to educate the masses on the Tulsa Massacre, but white liberals came in to save the day. The white saviorism philosophy from the right is just as bad as the left.

Newsflash, black people (not a political party) are pushing for people to know about Black Wall Street and Black Culture. Period.