Nobel Laureate Says “No Chance of Survival” For Vaccine Takers

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AcerM

In which case, there would be no vaccine at all.

Your right if it was about depopulation you wouldn't create a vaccine, definitely wouldn't fast-track it. And the people that wouldn't take the virus are the ones you would want to get rid of if it's about control. You would create a bigger problem because you killed the wrong group. The whole conspiracy theory doesn't make sense. Now if you said this was to get rid of the non vaxers well I could at least see that though you think they would have picked a deadlier disease. i nean aids stil kills just short of 2 million a year imagine if it was airborne.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You're on a conspiracy website. If you don't like it.......

Doesn't mean I can't call BS when I see it. Or should I just take my brain out and believe everything I read on here?

Wait a minute... you have a brain?

(Joke).

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AcerM

In which case, there would be no vaccine at all.

You would create a bigger problem because you killed the wrong group. The whole conspiracy theory doesn't make sense.

I've been saying something similar all along. The people who take vaccines in general are middle class white college graduates, while the least vaccinated groups tend to be poor blue collar minorities.

These depopulation conspiracies generally end up killing the most productive, most passive, people. While keeping the least productive and most inclined to crime around.

These conspiracies would end up making the whole world look like a South African township filled with the poor and the dispossessed. Hardly a dream world for the NWO to inherit.

A more practical idea would be that the vaccine actual saves you from a future planned plague. The wealthy, educated and productive survive while the poor and unproductive die. Thus the people most able to run a society will inherit a world that's been cleansed of poverty and "low class" people.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AcerM

In which case, there would be no vaccine at all.

aids stil kills just short of 2 million a year imagine if it was airborne.

Obesity kills way more than that every year, and people "infect" themselves.

If the NWO really wanted to kill millions all it would need to do is to make soda and fried chicken cheaper. It would be like getting people to snort Covid and think that it was there own idea.

> The wealthy, educated and productive survive while the poor and unproductive die.

Those behind the plandemic regard Earth humans as primitive, diseased and destructive, even the best of them. They're not the least interested in the personal qualities of survivors, merely in their genetic potential.

> Thus the people most able to run a society will inherit a world that's been cleansed of poverty and "low class" people.

The LAST thing they want is the survival of potential leaders. What they DEMAND is OBEDIENCE; enforced, if necessary.

> While keeping the least productive and most inclined to crime around.

They're at least as genetically viable as the "best", busy fighting amongst themselves, and quite disinterested in finding out "who's behind it". A corralled, constrained and predictable breeding stock.

It seems that most posting here weren't around for the Hidden Hand dialogue, and probably have never heard of it. When was it? 2008?

Yes. See www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: SuicideKing33

Not really. I used to think this too, but I've come to a different understanding. These people want mankind to advance. They want to become star trek. They think there are too many on earth right now, dragging us down. Like all eugenicists, they want to keep their prized possessions alive, in this case, people with sense and brains that can think critically.

You have to view depopulation through a eugenics perspective. They want a ratio of more wolves to sheep. They don't need nearly as many sheep now because of automation. The sheep have outlived their usefulness.

It gets scary when you view the mass importation of 3rd worlders into first world countries. I think they plan to destroy the populations of africa and certain parts of asia. They want to preserve genetic diversity just in case it's needed later, so they're importing it.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Your logic is backward you lose your doctors and scientists. You cant get to Star Trek without science, And science means people who understand things like vaccines. The paranoid group who thinks everyone is trying to kill them is the exact people you need to disappear to have an advanced society. The people you call sheep would be college-educated and have a greater understanding of the universe. Not to mention it takes scientists to create the vaccine in the first place

a reply to: dragonridr

You're going to lose some of everyone. No solution is perfect for mass depopulation. So you let people self select it.

The paranoid group who thinks everyone is trying to kill them is the exact people you need to disappear to have an advanced society.

You just described the elites. You think they want to disappear? They don't wander around with security teams because they're confident in their safety.

The people you call sheep would be college-educated and have a greater understanding of the universe

College brainwashed, not educated. They are not taught how to critically think, they are told what to think. They don't understand much for the most part.

a reply to: dragonridr

To be clear, I don't think the covid vaccine is the depopulation scheme they want to run. I think this is a test to see how it would go. You also have to remember, it was developed while trump was in office so their motives then vs now, could be different.

However, it is almost always wise to not take part in the initial human trials of a new drug.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: dragonridr

You're going to lose some of everyone. No solution is perfect for mass depopulation. So you let people self select it.

The paranoid group who thinks everyone is trying to kill them is the exact people you need to disappear to have an advanced society.

You just described the elites. You think they want to disappear? They don't wander around with security teams because they're confident in their safety.

The people you call sheep would be college-educated and have a greater understanding of the universe

College brainwashed, not educated. They are not taught how to critically think, they are told what to think. They don't understand much for the most part.

I'm guessing that you never went to college?

> You cant get to Star Trek without science

You mean the guys who insist that faster-than light travel is impossible? Who insist that they're the most intelligent creatures in the UNIVERSE because Earth is the only inhabited planet? Gotta be, otherwise we'd have picked up their radio transmissions. Who insist that there's no evidence whatever that UFOs are real?

Newton was a REEL SCIENTIST. Gave us gravity and much more. Didn't go in for all that superstitious stuff. Oh, wait; most of what he wrote was on alchemy and religion; and he WASN'T a scientist because the word wasn't coined until the 1830s. Musta just got lucky with the Principia. Einstein was straight, though. Relativity and all that; but spent the rest of his life insisting that QM is bollocks. His reason? "God doesn't play dice!" Kinda strange for an atheist. Just got lucky with the relativity and photoelectric stuff, I guess.

REEL scientists solve differential equations for breakfast, and work with Big Powerful Machines. You don't see them going in for magic and other nonsense; or do you ...

www.exposingsatanism.org...

With "intellectuals" like their famous "scientists", Earthlings are a good laugh and a push-over. ESPECIALLY if they've "been to college". They've been TAUGHT what to think, and don't have to bother thinking about it!

a reply to: Phirun

Your source missed out on Sunnydale.

Tsk.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

> Your source missed out on Sunnydale.

Yep, forgot that one! But it's impossible to list ALL examples of the weirdness of science and scientists. For example, JPL (formerly the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) is one of the Mecca's of modern scientific hitech:

www.jpl.nasa.gov...

Here's how it got started:

gizmodo.com...

a reply to: Phirun

Wow. Will have a read. Thanks! Love weirdness!

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AcerM

In which case, there would be no vaccine at all.

You would create a bigger problem because you killed the wrong group. The whole conspiracy theory doesn't make sense.

I've been saying something similar all along. The people who take vaccines in general are middle class white college graduates, while the least vaccinated groups tend to be poor blue collar minorities.

These depopulation conspiracies generally end up killing the most productive, most passive, people. While keeping the least productive and most inclined to crime around.

These conspiracies would end up making the whole world look like a South African township filled with the poor and the dispossessed. Hardly a dream world for the NWO to inherit.

A more practical idea would be that the vaccine actual saves you from a future planned plague. The wealthy, educated and productive survive while the poor and unproductive die. Thus the people most able to run a society will inherit a world that's been cleansed of poverty and "low class" people.

I agree, I'd say the more likely conspiracy is not the vaccine but the collapsing of the economy and the push for everyone to fall in line with the vaccine/ masks/ distancing/ obeying - more of a psyop in that sense. Not saying the virus isn't real, it is very real - but it's also not Ebola. Neo-marxism seems to be a thing and very much seems to be here at the doorstep and seems to be being implemented throughout the west, right now. The vaccine might work in the long run. And it might not. I'm holding out for the long term studies to be completed, in the next 5-6 years. So, thanks for all those guinea pigs out there taking the jab now. You are much braver than I choose to be.

HOWEVER, a devils advocate thought here... they might want the smart people gone - you know, the upper middle class people. Smart people in the past have generally been ones to bring revolutions against tyrannical powers into reality. Not hard to do away with the plebs who won't obey. Just look at the NY legislation they are proposing about detaining those who are "sick". What comes of that? Just more control and police state powers.

Just throw the name Luc Montagnier into google, and you will get a huge pile of articles pointing out that this is fake news.
For example from Reuters:
Fact Check-There is no evidence to suggest COVID-19 vaccines will kill people by causing antibody- dependent enhancement, current evidence demonstrates the opposite

a reply to: spleenika

> For example from Reuters

You're advocating MAINSTREAM MEDIA as a trusted source of fact-checking??? REALLY???

I've got a block of land on the west coast of Florida I'd like to interest you in. GREAT ocean views through the mangroves - sorry, native forest.

And I can cut you an AWWWWESOME deal.

a reply to: Phirun
Are you advocating crankpot websites with zero accreditation, and zero accountability to be the trusted sources of fact checking? Do they even use real names for the author of things you read/watch or is it just Patri0t50stars here with the scoop on why they don't want you to know the earth is flat!

a reply to: spleenika

> Are you advocating ...

I advocate whatever provides me greatest amusement. It's an infallible guide to what's REELY RITE!

P.S. And at high tide it's ALL above water! No. sorry. Low tide. Whatever!

originally posted by: spleenika
Just throw the name Luc Montagnier into google, and you will get a huge pile of articles pointing out that this is fake news.
For example from Reuters:
Fact Check-There is no evidence to suggest COVID-19 vaccines will kill people by causing antibody- dependent enhancement, current evidence demonstrates the opposite

That whole page is a classic "straw man". They're only going after the over the top claims, but you can watch the OP's video, and Luc is clearly saying those things.

He's just not saying exactly those *words*.

That's why I never trust a "debunk". I've never seen an honest one yet. Ever.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Dfairlite

Your logic is backward you lose your doctors and scientists. You cant get to Star Trek without science, And science means people who understand things like vaccines. The paranoid group who thinks everyone is trying to kill them is the exact people you need to disappear to have an advanced society. The people you call sheep would be college-educated and have a greater understanding of the universe. Not to mention it takes scientists to create the vaccine in the first place

The left always keeps claiming to have a monopoly on "college degrees", but it's a lie. A half truth at least.

I would be very amazed if you could show me a room full of engineers that votes left.