Israeli Settler ,"If I Don't Steal Your House Someone Else Will Steal It"

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Are you saying that Hitler wasn't really that bad because some Germans with Jewish ancestry were able to 'pass

No, what i am actually stating is that not ALL JEWISH PEOPLE where persecuted by The Nazi's as was stated.

Obviously you didn't understand that by your comment.

Just educate yourself, it does help before you make a nonsense reply.

I understand exactly what was said.

Of course not all Jews were persecuted.

Ask Mr. Soros about that.


It still doesn't excuse or even slightly reduce culpability for what fascists did back then, or what what they do right now.

Some Africans were made wealthy by slavery, and that fact doesn't in any reduce any else's culpability, right?

Of course not.

Neither does the (I thought) well known fact that some German Jews escaped the worst of Hitler's wrath.

Not for the folks back then, and not for anyone who supports either of those things today.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Yet again you misunderstand what i say.

Let me put it into simple terms. If someone makes a statement, the least i would expect is that staement to be true.

Now do you understand ?

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Soros is a pos. He made his fortune by selling the property of Jewish people that were taken to concentration camps, and even as an old man he has stated he never felt bad about it, and if he didn't do it someone else would. He even dressed as a nazy and enjoyed it. BTW, he has stated not to be a practicing Jew, and not to believe in God. So he is not Jewish but an evil pos.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Yet again you misunderstand what i say.

Let me put it into simple terms. If someone makes a statement, the least i would expect is that staement to be true.

Now do you understand ?

I understand completely.

Do you understand how ineffective strawman distractions are once the target is aware?

I do.

And spoke up to poke fun at one just a few minutes ago.



Nothing anyone can say can justify what Hamas just did, and I'm going to respond to obvious strawman distractions whenever I want, even if hurt feelz.

a reply to: bastion

This is my point - it's not a simplistic situation. It is tempting to at least simplify it to the level of sociopaths in power on both sides wanting to fight battles that cost the lives of many innocents; the innocents themselves likely preferring to get on with their lives and accept their neighbours.

However, nasty pieces of work such as the man in the OP trying to pathetically justify stealing someone's home from under them shows that the complexities and warmongering are the not preserve of the leaders.

Some folk here choose to avoid giving an opinion on this theft by saying rockets are fired, so the theft doesn't matter. That in itself is warmongering, since unless both sides listen and to all of the issues then the conflict will repeat and more innocents die.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: bastion

This is my point - it's not a simplistic situation. It is tempting to at least simplify it to the level of sociopaths in power on both sides wanting to fight battles that cost the lives of many innocents; the innocents themselves likely preferring to get on with their lives and accept their neighbours.

However, nasty pieces of work such as the man in the OP trying to pathetically justify stealing someone's home from under them shows that the complexities and warmongering are the not preserve of the leaders.

Some folk here choose to avoid giving an opinion on this theft by by saying rockets are fired, so the theft doesn't matter. That in itself is warmongering, since unless both sides listen and to all of the issues then the conflict will repeat and more innocents die.

"Some folk here choose to avoid giving an opinion on this theft by by saying rockets are fired, so the theft doesn't matter. That in itself is warmongering, since unless both sides listen and to all of the issues then the conflict will repeat and more innocents die."


And some folks here want to use a long and complicated international dispute to distract from the thousands of war crimes just committed on live tv by Hamas.

Or a weird guy who made video.
(That actually did distract me for a bit, so well done.)

And the democrat politicians who supported it just a short time ago.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

So you're saying that Israelis are not taking the homes of Palestinians away from them? The man in the video is the only person doing this?

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

So you're saying that Israelis are not taking the homes of Palestinians away from them? The man in the video is the only person doing this?

I'm not saying anything of the sort and you know it.

Are you saying that you will continue to support the democrats who so loudly proclaimed their support for international terrorists, WHILE said terrorists were in the process of committing thousands of war crimes?

Pretty lame attempt this time.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Good, this is progress! So if you acknowledge that Israel is kicking people out of their ancestral homes so they can take them, yet still 100% support Israel in this current dispute can you please explain the justification for stealing these homes?

(Btw, i'm not in the US, so i don't support the Dems or the Reps. Nor do i prefer a rock to a hard place, or the devil to the deep blue sea)

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Good, this is progress! So if you acknowledge that Israel is kicking people out of their ancestral homes so they can take them, yet still 100% support Israel in this current dispute can you please explain the justification for stealing these homes?

(Btw, i'm not in the US, so i don't support the Dems or the Reps. Nor do i prefer a rock to a hard place, or the devil to the deep blue sea)

I acknowledged no such thing and you know it.

Nice persistence though!



I officially acknowledge that Hamas got upset about something or other in a long and complicated international disagreement.

Hamas got so many feelz they apparently thought it would be ok to commit thousands of war crimes.

Last week.

I further testify that I have seen a large number of democrats, and leftists in general, put a lot of effort into trying to justify those same war crimes.

While Hamas continued to commit additional war crimes.

And still to this very minute.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

No need to testify, you're not on trial!

So are Israel stealing Palestinian homes or not?

Can't make it any simpler, though i'm sure you're continue to obfuscate with your answer.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

No need to testify, you're not on trial!

So are Israel stealing Palestinian homes or not?

Can't make it any simpler, though i'm sure you're continue to obfuscate with your answer.

The simple answer if they have a deed to the property no they are not. But life is seldom that simple because land ownership in the west bank is a mess. Families built on other people's property and the owners did not care. Then the Palestinians sell their property for a lot of money. When they did this families living on their property became renters.

This worked for a while as Israeli courts said you can't remove Palestinians paying rent but then they stopped paying. So they went from renters to squatters. This has been tied up in courts for decades Even the 6 families that is being handled in Israel's supreme court do not own the land their house is on. They are arguing they should be able to stay because they lived there before the property was purchased. So when the people bought the property it did not include the land they were using from the previous owner.

Is this a valid argument not really because Israel does have eviction laws. If i was the court id probably just say either they pay the landowner's rent or they need to vacate immediately. The whole case has been put on hold, for now, due to all the uprisings so we shall see what the court decides.

Oh and the only way to stop this is to make it illegal for Jews to buy Palestinian lands. Because the Palestinians are going to continue to sell when they can get 4x the property's value. In most cases, they take the money and buy land somewhere else and still have money left over of course they are going to sell become instant millionaires.

a reply to: dragonridr

Israeli law doesn't apply to occupied territories under international law, the UN warned Israel to stop the eviction immediately prior to the conflict as it breaks the Fourth Geneva Convention and a war crime. The Israeli High courts also ruled the settlements are illegal and must immediately stop around 2019.

UN - Israel Must Stop Jarrah Evictions Immediately


“In addition, the Absentee Property Law and the Legal and Administrative Matters Law are applied in an inherently discriminatory manner, based solely on the nationality or origin of the owner”, OHCHR spokesperson Colville said.

“In practice, the implementation of these laws facilitates the transfer by Israel of its population into occupied East Jerusalem. The transfer of parts of an occupying Power’s civilian population into the territory that it occupies is prohibited under international humanitarian law and may amount to a war crime”, he added.

Forced evictions are a key factor in creating a coercive environment that may lead to forcible transfer, which is prohibited by the Fourth Geneva Convention and is a grave breach of the Convention.”

I just looked out of curiosity on the cot of land in east Jerusalem. It's currently 17,149.00 per square meter. So yeah purchasing property there is really expensive but very profitable to sell.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

No need to testify, you're not on trial!

So are Israel stealing Palestinian homes or not?

Can't make it any simpler, though i'm sure you're continue to obfuscate with your answer.

I'm not trying to obfuscate in any way.

Not why I'm here.


Here is a more direct answer:

I don't know.

And neither do you.

Nobody can possibly know yet due to the long and complicated international dispute we've been discussing.

I'm sure Hamas has strong feelz on the matter.

And Israel too.

And it makes zero difference in any way as to whether what Hamas just did is justified.

It was not.

Yet many democrats and leftists in general are proudly using this sad occasion to try to justify what Hamas just did.

While apparently most other dems are still asleep.

Or calling people fascists.

Oh, the irony...

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Neither side were correct (Israel DOES have the right to defend itself and you can not blame a government for taking the right decision but it only came about because of plainly wicked and evil decisions leading up to it), Hamas is working for the Iranians NOT the Palestinian's, though they are a Palestinian movement they take there ordered from Tehran though it is possible this WAS an internal decision sparked by the attempt to evict Palestinian family's in Jerusalem.

Israel where in the wrong to target civilian's (And to orchestrate that Eviction) and yes they DID.

Yes Hamas used Civilians as a shield but not all the sites Israel COUNTER attacked had any Hamas members at them.

For me the worst part is that they are FIRST COUSINS, in fact even closer than that as if you watch that documentary made by some Israeli's I posted in my last comment you will see that many Palestinian's are actually full blooded Jewish but of course Muslim's as at some point there family's converted to that belief.


God protected Israel the last time THEY were attacked, there were more than a few claims on that matter, this time God is displeased with Israel, Two disasters within the country and another abroad had very recently taken quite a few Israeli lives, yet still they ignore him.

The Lord can take it back if they do not mend there way's and live within the law, our ancestors put lawless people off that land which was given to us and God will not suffer a lawless people even if they are Jews to live there so they would best listen when the Lord speaks.

Thou shall not steal, bare false witness, deprive the widow, covet what is thy neighbours (MANY of them are Jewish as well - Genetically so are also descendants of Dan and Juda), how many laws have they broken, how far are they willing to claim in the name of the Lord while sinning against him.

Both are in the wrong.

originally posted by: wheresthebody
I blame the Ottomans...

And the English...

And the French...

Yep...if the Ottomans didn't side with Germany... And France and England just totally F'd up the whole area.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

No need to testify, you're not on trial!

So are Israel stealing Palestinian homes or not?

Can't make it any simpler, though i'm sure you're continue to obfuscate with your answer.

I think it is more complicated than just Jews trying to steal houses... I think in many cases it is people living in buildings others own and they do not pay rent or anything, so what do you do?

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Neither side were correct (Israel DOES have the right to defend itself and you can not blame a government for taking the right decision but it only came about because of plainly wicked and evil decisions leading up to it), Hamas is working for the Iranians NOT the Palestinian's, though they are a Palestinian movement they take there ordered from Tehran though it is possible this WAS an internal decision sparked by the attempt to evict Palestinian family's in Jerusalem.

Israel where in the wrong to target civilian's (And to orchestrate that Eviction) and yes they DID.

Yes Hamas used Civilians as a shield but not all the sites Israel COUNTER attacked had any Hamas members at them.

For me the worst part is that they are FIRST COUSINS, in fact even closer than that as if you watch that documentary made by some Israeli's I posted in my last comment you will see that many Palestinian's are actually full blooded Jewish but of course Muslim's as at some point there family's converted to that belief.


God protected Israel the last time THEY were attacked, there were more than a few claims on that matter, this time God is displeased with Israel, Two disasters within the country and another abroad had very recently taken quite a few Israeli lives, yet still they ignore him.

The Lord can take it back if they do not mend there way's and live within the law, our ancestors put lawless people off that land which was given to us and God will not suffer a lawless people even if they are Jews to live there so they would best listen when the Lord speaks.

Thou shall not steal, bare false witness, deprive the widow, covet what is thy neighbours (MANY of them are Jewish as well - Genetically so are also descendants of Dan and Juda), how many laws have they broken, how far are they willing to claim in the name of the Lord while sinning against him.

Both are in the wrong.

I agree with a good deal of what you just wrote.

Thank you.


Here is where I disagree:

If Israel committed war crimes they should be punished by 'x' (I don't know what x should be)

If Hamas committed war crimes they should be punished by 'x' (see above for value of x)

Every country has a right to defend itself.

And regardless of who did what, there are ZERO exceptions that justify war crimes.


Both combatants have made claims about recent activities, and while Hamas is yelling the loudest, it sure does like Israel is a lot more believable. So far.

And none of that has anything to do with whether Hamas was in any way justified for committing thousands of war crimes last week.

Hamas committed thousands of war crimes on live tv last week.

It happened.

There is no doubt.


There are zero exceptions that justify war crimes in Geneva Convention.




Hamas just committed thousands of war crimes. Everyone knows it. You know it.

Some people 'think' or 'feelz' that Israel committed some pretty serious war crimes last week.

Other people don't.

I'd like to see the evidence.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Your right over 4000 rockets were targeted at the civilian population and well that is a war crime. Israel at least contacted people and told them to evacuate the area before they attacked. So it would be difficult to say they committed war crimes. You would have to prove that Hamas wasn't there and that would be difficult to prove when they dug tunnels from buildings under the streets. And I'm sure Israel can provide intel justifying their actions even if they had to make it up. Not saying they would but they could and disproving it would be impossible.