Israeli Settler ,"If I Don't Steal Your House Someone Else Will Steal It"

a reply to: yuppa

The Zionists spent a lot of money and time trying to push that narrative:
- The land was uninhabited before.
- The Palestinians were mere beduin tribes squatting on the land.
- The Palestinians are gypsies that have no claim to the land.
- and so on, and so forth...

Golda Meir herself admits living in Palestine and carrying a Palestinian passport:
Watch from 06:33

The narrative they keep pushing is:
- There were groups and gangs of Arabs living in the region, and not an organized country.
- The Arab countries are numerous and vast, why can't they take those gypsies ?
- We were there three thousand years before, and we came back.

To which I have a few questions:
- Before the British mandate (which was forced upon the ottoman empire after the ottoman leader refused to sell Palestine to Theodore Hertzl, the founder of the Zionism)
Theodore Hertzl reports to his leadership the failure of negotiations with Turkey
- During the crusades, who was living in that land ? The ruins of castles and forts still exist to this day on both sides of the river Jordan.
- Before Isaac and Jacob were born in that land to Abraham, the Canaanites lived there for close to 2,000 years from 3,000 BC. The Canaanites are the ancestors of the Semitic people, and the Canaanite, Aramaic, and Arabic languages appeared in the third millenium BC. If there were any people who had the right to claim ownership of the land, wouldn't it be the Canaanites?

People of all three major religions lived in peace in the land. There were no problems between them. The crusades marred that history for political and power gains. The Zionists invented narratives to justify the take-over. The whole thing is a land-grab no matter how you look at it. If the Zionists believed they had claim over the land, why would they attempt to buy the land?

If the Zionists had legal and moral claim over the land, why would Balfour ink the declaration the way he did? There were Jews living in Palestine the whole time. In fact, there were even Jews living in Saudi Arabia. Why were the European Jews still living in Europe? Why didn't they migrate to Palestine after they fled Russia ? And why did the Zionists arrange mass Jewish migrations to Argentina between 1906 and 1912 ?

If the the Zionists succeeded in any one thing, they managed only to muddy the image of Judaism and link it to violence. Judaism has nothing to do with Zionism. Look at the fad of calling Jewish people, who are against their policies and practices, anti-Semites and self-hating Jews. That's just rich.

The Zionist propaganda would like us to believe that Palestine was completely empty and the promised land waiting to be repopulated, and that the Muslims were the monsters. When in fact, Zionists believed that Their country can be grabbed only by violence, Menachem Begin was a member of the Irgun terrorist organization that committed atrocities to scare Arabs into submission and fleeing.Irgun.

And the Israeli government is proud to teach their kids to kill Arabs, then claim that Palestinians teach their kids to kill Israelis. .

This guy also has many eye-opening videos of Israeli's mentality which is a direct consequence of Zionist policies and propaganda: . Abby Martin also has a few videos of Israelis openly advocating ethnic-cleansing Arabs.

What's happening there is very sad, and the saddest part is that I don't believe it will ever be resolved as long as Zionists continue with their expansionist and violent agenda. And to anyone who says Israel doesn't want to expand, just look at the Israeli flag and the Shekel that has the map of greater Israel.

originally posted by: mirage3d
a reply to: yuppa

The Zionists spent a lot of money and time trying to push that narrative:
- The land was uninhabited before.
- The Palestinians were mere beduin tribes squatting on the land.
- The Palestinians are gypsies that have no claim to the land.
- and so on, and so forth...

Golda Meir herself admits living in Palestine and carrying a Palestinian passport:
Watch from 06:33

The narrative they keep pushing is:
- There were groups and gangs of Arabs living in the region, and not an organized country.
- The Arab countries are numerous and vast, why can't they take those gypsies ?
- We were there three thousand years before, and we came back.

To which I have a few questions:
- Before the British mandate (which was forced upon the ottoman empire after the ottoman leader refused to sell Palestine to Theodore Hertzl, the founder of the Zionism)
Theodore Hertzl reports to his leadership the failure of negotiations with Turkey
- During the crusades, who was living in that land ? The ruins of castles and forts still exist to this day on both sides of the river Jordan.
- Before Isaac and Jacob were born in that land to Abraham, the Canaanites lived there for close to 2,000 years from 3,000 BC. The Canaanites are the ancestors of the Semitic people, and the Canaanite, Aramaic, and Arabic languages appeared in the third millenium BC. If there were any people who had the right to claim ownership of the land, wouldn't it be the Canaanites?

People of all three major religions lived in peace in the land. There were no problems between them. The crusades marred that history for political and power gains. The Zionists invented narratives to justify the take-over. The whole thing is a land-grab no matter how you look at it. If the Zionists believed they had claim over the land, why would they attempt to buy the land?

If the Zionists had legal and moral claim over the land, why would Balfour ink the declaration the way he did? There were Jews living in Palestine the whole time. In fact, there were even Jews living in Saudi Arabia. Why were the European Jews still living in Europe? Why didn't they migrate to Palestine after they fled Russia ? And why did the Zionists arrange mass Jewish migrations to Argentina between 1906 and 1912 ?

If the the Zionists succeeded in any one thing, they managed only to muddy the image of Judaism and link it to violence. Judaism has nothing to do with Zionism. Look at the fad of calling Jewish people, who are against their policies and practices, anti-Semites and self-hating Jews. That's just rich.

The Zionist propaganda would like us to believe that Palestine was completely empty and the promised land waiting to be repopulated, and that the Muslims were the monsters. When in fact, Zionists believed that Their country can be grabbed only by violence, Menachem Begin was a member of the Irgun terrorist organization that committed atrocities to scare Arabs into submission and fleeing.Irgun.

And the Israeli government is proud to teach their kids to kill Arabs, then claim that Palestinians teach their kids to kill Israelis.

.

This guy also has many eye-opening videos of Israeli's mentality which is a direct consequence of Zionist policies and propaganda:

. Abby Martin also has a few videos of Israelis openly advocating ethnic-cleansing Arabs.

What's happening there is very sad, and the saddest part is that I don't believe it will ever be resolved as long as Zionists continue with their expansionist and violent agenda. And to anyone who says Israel doesn't want to expand, just look at the Israeli flag and the Shekel that has the map of greater Israel.

the Area of "palestine" was originally JUDEA and Israel,so...there goes that theory. That woman dont even know her own history.

originally posted by: yuppa
the Area of "palestine" was originally JUDEA and Israel,so...there goes that theory. That woman dont even know her own history.

No, only a small portion was originally called Judea, it was the area roughly between the current Gaza Strip and the Dead Sea. This area was bounded to the north by Samaria and to the south by Idumea.

It was eventually changed by Hadrian to Syria Palestina in the second century AD.

originally posted by: acackohfcc

originally posted by: Ohanka
Thou shall not steal.

Ring a bell? Not to Zionists clearly. As you mentioned in the OP.

There’s also one that says Thou shall not murder which also seems largely ignored.

christians believe in the bible and 10 commandments
Why do you think the Jewish religion should obey another religion's commandments
Poor arguement

The Messiah was born of a Hebrew woman and the first followers were mostly Jewish.
The commandments are the same for both religions,some just don't see it that way.I do
support Israel and her God given rights to the land!

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Sounds like a war. Oh that’s right they are at war and have been for a very long time. I just hope none of my countrymen have or will get dragged into their nonsense.

Are you one of those people who think the middle east crisis dates back centuries, or somesuch crap? If so, then congrats: you fail history class.

The Middle East crisis started in 1948, when the United Nations unilaterally created the nation of Israel with no regard for the Palestinians who had been living there since the end of the First Century (after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70).

originally posted by: mamabeth

originally posted by: acackohfcc

originally posted by: Ohanka
Thou shall not steal.

Ring a bell? Not to Zionists clearly. As you mentioned in the OP.

There’s also one that says Thou shall not murder which also seems largely ignored.

christians believe in the bible and 10 commandments
Why do you think the Jewish religion should obey another religion's commandments
Poor arguement

The Messiah was born of a Hebrew woman and the first followers were mostly Jewish.
The commandments are the same for both religions,some just don't see it that way.I do
support Israel and her God given rights to the land!

Yes, the Jews have the same commandments just worded differently or numbered differently would be more accurate. For example, in the Torah, the 1st commandment is: “I am the Lord Your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me”

a reply to: gortex


Is this your attempt at dismissing the attacks against Jewish people in democrat hell holes that think just like you do?...

Jewish people, in mostly democrat hell holes, are being attacked by pro-Palestinian aholes and whaty you attempt to do is to claim that Israel is at fault for it all when it was the fairy tale country known as Palestine through HAMAS whom attacked Israel and you don't like it when Israelis actually defend themselves?...

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Another one... Israel was attacked by the Palestinian authority/HAMAS... but i am guessing you are one of those.... that always blames Israel and it's people for having to defend themselves?...

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Sounds like a war. Oh that’s right they are at war and have been for a very long time. I just hope none of my countrymen have or will get dragged into their nonsense.

The last time some ahole tried to do what HAMAS,and most pro-Palestinians aholes want to do today to Israel and all Jewish people are the same aholes that sided with that murderer called hitler and his nazi aholes...

Jewish people, in mostly democrat hell holes in the U.S. are being attacked viciously. The attacks are similar to the attacks against Jewish people when your nazi friends also wanted to get rid of all Jewish people...

How do you like it supporting the same aholes that want to do what hitler did to all Jewish people in nazi Germany?...

originally posted by: gortex
"If I Don't Steal Your House Someone Else Will Steal It"

Then how about helping to protect their house so no one else can steal it? Isn't there book somewhere that says something about loving thy neighbour?

What a disgusting piece of work this individual is. Whatever he represents is a stain. I'm amazed at how carelessly and rapidly Israel is throwing their hard earned good will away. I hope they come to their senses very soon.

I've never been to Israel, so i know my words are cheap, but my distant reading of all this is of a leader on his way out grasping at anything to maintain his position, such as conflict.

Maggy Thatcher was polling badly and on her way out in '82, until the Falklands war united the country with a common cause more urgent than left & right politics. The result was another 8 miserable years of Thatcher's dark reign. Can't help but wonder if Netanyahu is playing from the same songbook.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: gortex
"If I Don't Steal Your House Someone Else Will Steal It"

Then how about helping to protect their house so no one else can steal it? Isn't there book somewhere that says something about loving thy neighbour?

What a disgusting piece of work this individual is. Whatever he represents is a stain. I'm amazed at how carelessly and rapidly Israel is throwing their hard earned good will away. I hope they come to their senses very soon.

I've never been to Israel, so i know my words are cheap, but my distant reading of all this is of a leader on his way out grasping at anything to maintain his position, such as conflict.

Maggy Thatcher was polling badly and on her way out in '82, until the Falklands war united the country with a common cause more urgent than left & right politics. The result was another 8 miserable years of Thatcher's dark reign. Can't help but wonder if Netanyahu is playing from the same songbook.

Are saying that you believe Thatcher convinced Argentina to invade UK territory in order to help Maggie win an election?

And it worked so well that Bennie convinced Hamas to launch 4000+ rockets at Israeli civilians to help him win an election or something?

Did Bennie give Hamas the rockets too?

And tell Hamas to aim at civilians?

Maybe I'm missing something, but that sounds pretty absurd.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

That kind of simplistic thinking helps to perpetuate slightly more sophisticated wrong doing. Surely you know better than to think life is as black and white as propose?

You’re saying that unless Thatcher and Netanyahu started these conflicts they are completely absolved of any wrong doing. Really?

Sociopaths never let a good disaster go to waste. No matter the cost to others they’ll pour gasoline on the fire if that serves their personal ambitions.

I’m saying that these disputes could’ve been resolved without costing so many innocent lives, but no meaningful attempts were made.

And yes, in this case there is indeed the probability Netanyahu knew very well that the provocative theft of these homes may well incite violence from Hamas.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

That kind of simplistic thinking helps to perpetuate slightly more sophisticated wrong doing. Surely you know better than to think life is as black and white as propose?

You’re saying that unless Thatcher and Netanyahu started these conflicts they are completely absolved of any wrong doing. Really?

Sociopaths never let a good disaster go to waste. No matter the cost to others they’ll pour gasoline on the fire if that serves their personal ambitions.

I’m saying that these disputes could’ve been resolved without costing so many innocent lives, but no meaningful attempts were made.

And yes, in this case there is indeed the probability Netanyahu knew very well that the provocative theft of these homes may well incite violence from Hamas.

Nice!

Next time I want to fire 4000 rockets at my neighbor, all I have to do is claim he knowingly triggered me with all those poop bags on my porch?

Then it's ok to commit war crimes apparently.

Maybe I'll even get elected mayor?

Wait, that would be awful for everyone.




There are no excuses for committing war crimes on that scale.

None.

Not even if every Jew left poop bags on every Hamas porch.

Check the Geneva Convention, there are no exceptions for what Hamas just did.

None.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

How do you like it supporting the same aholes that want to do what hitler did to all Jewish people in nazi Germany?.

I think you need to revise that.

The German Army during WW II had around 150,000 Jewish soldiers. Also a founding member of Himmler's SS was Jewish.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

How do you like it supporting the same aholes that want to do what hitler did to all Jewish people in nazi Germany?.

I think you need to revise that.

The German Army during WW II had around 150,000 Jewish soldiers. Also a founding member of Himmler's SS was Jewish.

Are you saying that Hitler wasn't really that bad because some Germans with Jewish ancestry were able to 'pass'?

(whatever that meant to Nazis back then)



How about:

Slavery wasn't that bad because Africans sold other Africans?

They sound pretty similar right?


Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say, but it all sounds pretty absurd to me.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Are you saying that Hitler wasn't really that bad because some Germans with Jewish ancestry were able to 'pass

No, what i am actually stating is that not ALL JEWISH PEOPLE where persecuted by The Nazi's as was stated.

Obviously you didn't understand that by your comment.

Just educate yourself, it does help before you make a nonsense reply.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Next time I want to fire 4000 rockets at my neighbor, all I have to do is claim he knowingly triggered me with all those poop bags on my porch?

On the first day of strikes against Israel 36 rockets were fired. Not 4000!

A minority jumping to extremes like this leads the majority to suffer the consequences ad nauseam.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

That kind of simplistic thinking helps to perpetuate slightly more sophisticated wrong doing. Surely you know better than to think life is as black and white as propose?

You’re saying that unless Thatcher and Netanyahu started these conflicts they are completely absolved of any wrong doing. Really?

Sociopaths never let a good disaster go to waste. No matter the cost to others they’ll pour gasoline on the fire if that serves their personal ambitions.

I’m saying that these disputes could’ve been resolved without costing so many innocent lives, but no meaningful attempts were made.

And yes, in this case there is indeed the probability Netanyahu knew very well that the provocative theft of these homes may well incite violence from Hamas.

Both sides were exploiting it for political gain.

The group behind the settlements/control of Al-Asqa are a US run minorty ultra-nationalist Jewish supremacist group called Lahava who were the ones marching around Sheikh Jarah and Al-Aqsa chanting 'death to Arabs' and attack Arabs and Christians for not being Jewish. They're reviled in Israel and considered a terrorist group by Israel and the US but the Israeli police and IDF still protect and help them in the illegal demolition and expulsion of Palestinians.

Jerusalem Post: US Lehava leader indicted for terrorism

The vast majority of Israeli's are opposed to the settlements, chief Rabbi's have total respect for Al-Aqsa Mosque and Israeli human rights groups are calling out the apartheid in Jerusalem and campaigning for equal rights for Palestinians there.






While I firmly believe Mossad/IDF have the capability to take out Hamas leaders in targetted assasinations/shootings with far fewer civillian casualties (sadly they're always going to happen in war and IDF sometimes attempt to reduce them). It doesn't excuse the war crimes of Hamas backed and armed by many Islamic countries whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and make no attempt to mini adhere to rules of war and avoiding casualties.

The Al-Aqsa mosque has been an ancient site of conflict between Arabs and Jews. When Israeli security refused to allow Palestinians in during Ramadan the Arab world sees it as an attempt to take over the area with Iran spearheading movement escalate conflict further.

There's a great write-up here: AP: What's behind the clashes

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The op is lying. We don't even know the circumstances for this supposed "steal." HAMAS frequently put their missiles, and mortar launchers in houses, school and hospitals of Palestinians to attack at Israel from those places, and when those attacks happened, which they have been occurring for a very long time, many times Israel has had to take over those houses to stop HAMAS from bombing more Israelites and their cities.

If you notice the video was heavily edited and you only hear what the anti-Jewish/NAZIS want you to hear so you think Israel is committing crimes.

One of the charities i give to is Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and because of my contributions I get phone calls, the last one being from Israel, telling me what is happening there. I heard how elderly Jewish couples have had to stay overnight in bunkers because they are too slow due to age and couldn't return to their homes because every night HAMAS/Palestine kept attacking them...