The Secret Life Of Fairies

a reply to: Flyingthroughlife

My tendency to inject cultural references is absolutely a habit I need to break. My primary bias when dealing with this non-human (atypical) topics usually lead to me siphoning through the information to find the most high yield “actionable intelligence”, the knowledge/insights I can actually apply in my own life and those around me. Human conditioning at its finest.

We do have a lot of conditioning. When directly mind to mind with non-human Beings, one realizes how much conditioning we have.

A human has an inherited cultural memory plus what the child inherits from the parents. The child is born embedded into a society and grows up in it. We also have books, and schooling to educate us.

Cultural influences makes humans complicated.

A fairy does not have a (human) culture within which it is embedded. The fairy has no (human) cultural influences through which to interpret what it experiences.

Freudian and Jungian psychology, I regard as hindrances. Psychology is designed around the human mind which has a subconscious. How does that work with the fairies and other fae who don't have a subconscious?

I do have a human bias I generally use with the fae, especially when I first encounter them. I look for the twin of the human girl the fairy made for herself to live within. The twin is emotionally between eight and fourteen years. I always find something about them that I find adorable. One must balance this with common sense respect for the predator aspect.

The one exception was with Pallas Athene. When I was a young teenager I had a crush on Homer's description of Pallas Athene. Once, five decades later, I looked at her with adoring eyes . . . .

When her eyes turn towards you,
with a smile upon her lips.
Tis a look that stops you,
like a rabbit in your tracks.

Her smile was the blood curdling sort of smile.

I hope I am not diverting the course of your thread too much, and if I am, I appreciate you indulging my curiosity.

No, you are not, and I am glad we have tarried with young Lilith.

Was Lilith a human who transitioned into fae status,

Nope. Lilith is a little blue light (same as Margaret's little blue light) who intruded into our euclidean space and time. "It" found a womb, made a twin of the human girl and now lives through that.

or a fae who had a human life (lives) on Earth as part of her specific purpose.

C'est ça l'amour. A fairy will sometimes be born as a human to chase a human girl through multiple lives. Other fairies look upon this sort of thing as stupid. To be born into a mortal world without any memories is regarded as reckless.

Apart from chasing girls, fairies are not born with a specific purpose. Lilith shared her memories with me this morning. Like going on a date with a girl at the cinema, except the cinema is the inside of Lilith's womb.

I can remember being a little blue light we call Lilith now. Lilith only had the instinct to find a womb. Margaret's fairy was the same. I asked around and it is how it happens.

Having a "Purpose" is a human "thing". Fairies don't have a given purpose as supposed. They find a womb and become a presence. That is in the first instance. Later, if they survive, they find things that interest them.

It is not planned, it is intelligently random. The "archetypes from above" thinking is a human invention.

Does this imply humans can transition to fae status?

I don't know. So let's ask around; maybe? apparently?

Or can fae be among us having human lives to have human experiences? I'm thinking specifically of your figure eight lying horizontally analogy you used previously, and in this case the mobius you mentioned earlier makes more sense. If so, I can see why this information was suppressed by religious organizations in the past.

The figure eight on it's side is the fairy's view of the seen and unseen worlds. The living organic and the spiritual realms. The crossover being the point of birth/death.

The mobius was mainly to represent the organic cycle of birth and death. Thus the ants marching infinitely.

The subtle point was to also illustrate that "above and below" keeps you at a level; the hierarchical control philosophy of the human. Tip the "above and below" view on it's side puts everything on the same level.

That is how I can visit the underworlds. The concept of "levels" is a human intellectual construction.

One might say the design keeps the riff-raff out of heaven, and people away from the "terrible lower worlds" where coincidentally heaven hides all it's dirty laundry.

The: Arrr, there be dragons! approach keeps people in the approved locations.

The "human experiences" the fairies (that I know) are interested in are the formative years of puberty ending with organic sexual maturity. That is to build the "twin" as a presence here. So the human experiences of a girl's life between eight and fourteen years of age. One might say; the acquisition of organic reproductive skills and knowledge.

Now, with your part two you are so very close. That deserves a specific reply on it's own.

I wonder I wonder how did this come to be.

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The memories of Lilith.

We sat together Lilith and I.
Lilith is a little blue fairy waiting for a womb.
Before us in the distance is a pyramid, surrounded by grass.

A human girl appears and looks at Lilith.
A slender blond girl with eyes of green.

This girl will become the creator of Lilith's twin.
Then the girl disappears, Lilith remains within her twin.

Lilith's twin looks to be fifteen years of age, simply standing there.
The girl's blond hair and green eyes.
Above the pyramid floats a city, auroras of green above.

Then the city is gone, there is just the pyramid.
Standing beside Lilith's twin, the twin is twice my height.

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My height is five foot six, that makes Lilith eleven feet tall. 330 in the metric centimetre.

Lilith and I spent the morning getting to know each other. She is a gentle adorable girl.

Lilith says the pyramid was repaired twice. I don't know the location of the pyramid, I wonder if it may possibly be Egypt.

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2. Calls to Lilith being intercepted: this I found particularly interesting.

So do I, very interesting.

If there was some effort in the past through religious entities or others to change the collective human conscious view on Lilith and fairies as a whole, that is intriguing.

This has been a burning question for me for some time.

If those entities are able to intercept calls to an entity like Lilith (prayers or rituals) and send another being instead,

They did not send another Being instead. Though it was interception, of a kind.

that is a degree of weaponization across the two worlds that is alarming.

"alarming" at first thought. Until one realizes this has been in the planning and execution for a very great many years.

You had mentioned previously that the greys seem to move freely across the fae/spiritual realm and ours, and there is a connection between formal religious organization across the realms as well.

If these beings like Lilith and the fae are as real as we discuss on this thread, the ability to intercept peoples calls/prayers to these entities and send nefarious beings to the location of the caller is a level of weaponization that is troubling.

"nefarious beings" are not sent, it is simpler than that.

If names can be intercepted when called via rituals or prayer, and some other nefarious being can be sent out to that location, what other names could be intercepted in such a way?

The obvious answer is any.

I am well aware of the "who". It was the "why" and "how" that eluded me until I met Lilith and got to know her.

The why.

The fairies and the other fae are the Intelligent Designers. We can understand this in how a fairy interacts with the girl.

I have described the initial process of building the twin, and hinted at a connection with the process called "kundalini". In days long ago, the process was sometimes two fold.

1. With the successful building of the twin, the fairy leaves the girl.

The girl then becomes a mother and has a family.

2. The fairy returns to the now grown woman. The twin is the compatible non-standard intelligence who joins with the woman.

This only happens between fairy and woman. Men are left out, men don't have wombs.

I have not personally seen this happen in this day and age. The fairies and the fae simply say "this is normal, when we have our way."

Now what could Lilith achieve, if she had the chance to find a modern human girl, and repeat the process? Many a fairy has multiple "twins" from different girls adapted to be one twin. The fairy simply chooses what she wants and crafts the new twin. Lilith can also pass on the memories of that time all those years ago. The memories of the girl who lived in the floating city.

The implications of Lilith free to choose her own way are, shall we say; rather interesting.

There is also another potential problem. That thirteen foot tall green eyed girl was of a different race. If her people still exist and find out, then they might want a say with what happens with the knowledge.

It never even occurred to me before today that an ordinary fairy, in the normal course of events, would stumble upon a girl from different human race. That begs the question; How many times has this happened to fairies other than Lilith?

The girl is now safe and elsewhen with the fae. If anyone looks for her or echoes of her memories, they will not find her.

The how.

This is easy; it is interception. The man in the middle attack of computer fame.

"Lilith" is a name, Western occultism and mysticism uses names to invoke and control.

Fairies and the fae don't have names, they have never desired names. Names are labels and so a human habit.

The womb is the fruit of the fairy tree of life. The branches are the paths of the unborn. The roots descend within the earth.

There is another tree; The Kabbalah.

What a unique thread on ATS!

So you just come on here and tell us you see fairies, then attack the church (and possibly even christianity) in your first couple of posts and don't get called out.
You continue telling us how you let entities reside in your body and have not once been "politely asked" if you want an exorcism...
Page after page you delve into the secrets of the universe, but you are still alive!!


Thankyou very much!


I have been following this thread from page one and at about page five I passed the link around to people who I believe have enough wisdom to understand you. (Not that I think of myself as wise)
I won't ask them if they read the thread, because if it is their destiny to glean wisdom or knowledge from it then they will do so. If it isn't, then by leading them to this thread it would be the same as throwing pearls before the swine....

Funnily enough I was asking 'myself' some questions in the past months and weeks and you answered some of them. Even in the last few days, I was like I wander f such and such and then you answered the question in a fully unrelated post and offhand remark. So thank you for doing that job so nicely. xD



You mentioned the salamanders forcing the Djinn into the bottle.
A quick google search (combined with previous titbits of knowlege) taught me alot of things, including doing so is wrong on so many levels. BUT: Who are the salamanders? (It's not important, probably common knowledge, but if you could spare two lines to tell me, it would be much appreciated!)


So it sounds like the Greys and the Fae are from 'outside'.
The Greys are keeping an eye on things (no self-destruction), possibly like caretakers or farmers or scientists.
The Fae are on their own mission.
Are there more entities from outside, are there more connections?
All religions, secret societies, etc. are completely inside and playing their role and using their knowledge to their advantage or to further what they assume to be 'right' or to 'help' in a way they deem fit. Some may even be playing a 'dirty game' and communicating and/or trading outside (books seem very valuable) for their advantage.


I am wandering what are our roles?
What is your role?
You are a Doctor for souls, a healer, sounds like a good thing!
When you die, will you be favourite?
Will they send you back to continue your job?
Were you sent back, because you always have had this role?
I know those are personal questions, not suitable for a forum and I don't expect answers, just thinking out loud.


What is my role? ... Let me put it this way.
I'm on my spiritual path, I think I have found finally found and understood the path so it is of no surprise that I'm reading this info now.
But I must admit some details are surprising!



What I find most interesting, in a slightly scary way (I don't like too much change at once ), is that so much knowledge is being offered and given away at the moment. Not only in this thread.
It is like everybody in charge is like: "Let them know the secrets, the age is over, it won't change anything anymore, they'll die anyway..."

But that is just a feeling.



By the way: you mentioned the 'other world' is a dangerous place.
Is it really a good idea to invite entities into your body (especially if they look like innocent little girls)?
It sounds fishy to me. But those are my alarm bells, due to my upbringing.


Stay safe, stay healthy and thank you.

Sam

a reply to: Aldolas

Hi Aldolas.

So you just come on here and tell us you see fairies, then attack the church (and possibly even christianity) in your first couple of posts and don't get called out.

Weeeelllll, The church's track record does speak for itself . . . . .

You continue telling us how you let entities reside in your body and have not once been "politely asked" if you want an exorcism...

Don't worry, they try to get me "after hours". I am no stranger to (deceased) Catholic clergy literally dowsing me in holy water and figuratively trying to bash me to death with a bible. I have a reputation over there with the "good guys" and the names they have for me I won't repeat here.

Page after page you delve into the secrets of the universe, but you are still alive!!

I am old and tough. (grin)

But yeah, I am surprised too. This is ATS.

I have been following this thread from page one and at about page five I passed the link around to people who I believe have enough wisdom to understand you. (Not that I think of myself as wise)
I won't ask them if they read the thread, because if it is their destiny to glean wisdom or knowledge from it then they will do so. If it isn't, then by leading them to this thread it would be the same as throwing pearls before the swine....

Funnily enough I was asking 'myself' some questions in the past months and weeks and you answered some of them. Even in the last few days, I was like I wander f such and such and then you answered the question in a fully unrelated post and offhand remark. So thank you for doing that job so nicely. xD

I try to stay away from the jargon and explain in down to earth terms. I simply hope folks can follow.

If you found something useful to take away, then I am successful in this thread. So thank you.

You mentioned the salamanders forcing the Djinn into the bottle.
A quick google search (combined with previous titbits of knowlege) taught me alot of things, including doing so is wrong on so many levels. BUT: Who are the salamanders? (It's not important, probably common knowledge, but if you could spare two lines to tell me, it would be much appreciated!)

Salamanders live in fire. The western occultists call them fire Elementals.

I have only met one. He looked very much like an axolotl. The face surprisingly so, and the size. The little fellow in the photo below is an axolotl.


(Image: CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons)

Picture him without the feathery red gills, and mostly transparent so you can see the orange glowing coals of the fire through him. Upon his back are a few scarlet spots of varying size, the largest perhaps almost a centimetre.

They are not fairies nor fae. They are not from elsewhere either. They are a part of the earth's native life.

So it sounds like the Greys and the Fae are from 'outside'.

As far as I know they are. Though strictly speaking and by my own rules, the term "intrusions into our euclidean (geometric) space and time" is as accurate as I dare define.

The Greys are keeping an eye on things (no self-destruction), possibly like caretakers or farmers or scientists.

"scientists" - very much so from my very limited experience.

The Fae are on their own mission.

Yep, the ones I know anyway. To find a womb in the first instance and after that they find interesting things to do, it very much seems.

Are there more entities from outside, are there more connections?

I don't know.

All religions, secret societies, etc. are completely inside and playing their role and using their knowledge to their advantage or to further what they assume to be 'right' or to 'help' in a way they deem fit. Some may even be playing a 'dirty game' and communicating and/or trading outside (books seem very valuable) for their advantage.

A big generalization . . . . that may or may not apply.

I am wandering what are our roles?
What is your role?

I dunno, I haven't thought along those lines. I am just too busy looking after my (deceased) human girls.

You are a Doctor for souls, a healer, sounds like a good thing!

First aid and medicine for the dead. (smiley icon) I even have a medical book . . . . .

When you die, will you be favourite?

I am already favorite of my (deceased) girls. I have quite a lot of them. They fuss and tell me off. Twist me around their little fingers. Little ones sit on my lap while I am driving. When they smile it lights up my life. They are my adopted grand daughters.

Will they send you back to continue your job?

When I took on the care, safety and future of my (deceased) girls, they were already marked for culling from this world. Abominations unto god is what they are openly called, and to my face by the (deceased) church clergy. (That just gets me angry : )

The world of the fae is consequences. When I stepped in, the role became mine.

Were you sent back, because you always have had this role?

Well, this might seem strange. For myself, there is no "life before" and I don't count on one after.

I know those are personal questions, not suitable for a forum and I don't expect answers, just thinking out loud.

It was an interesting exercise in self reflection.

What is my role? ... Let me put it this way.
I'm on my spiritual path, I think I have found finally found and understood the path so it is of no surprise that I'm reading this info now.
But I must admit some details are surprising!

Yep, some things surprise even me.

What I find most interesting, in a slightly scary way (I don't like too much change at once ), is that so much knowledge is being offered and given away at the moment. Not only in this thread.
It is like everybody in charge is like: "Let them know the secrets, the age is over, it won't change anything anymore, they'll die anyway..."

But that is just a feeling.

There is a sense of fait accompli with many things at this time. Especially here on ATS regarding the NWO.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry.

By the way: you mentioned the 'other world' is a dangerous place.

It is also often brutal . . . .

and so are our fine cities for the homeless street kids.

Is it really a good idea to invite entities into your body (especially if they look like innocent little girls)?

The little dead girl asks: "Would you like to play with me?" - So begins the horror movie.

As a wise man pointed out earlier in the thread: Context is everything.

When Alice stepped out of the looking glass and into me, she crossed a boundary. She moved through a surface. The fairies do it all the time. The surface of a pond is simply a boundary. That is how us folks get around.

The technique is not easy. The reason for mentioning it was to illustrate what is possible, and to illustrate the existence of our boundaries of self.

Where was Alice when no longer in wonderland? She was between my aetheric and astral boundaries. In my posts here on ATS, my language became poetic and sometimes soggy. Alice's astral's effect on me.

I ran out of characters for that post : )

Neither of us became "one" with the other.

The reason for Alice's presence is simple, it was for her safety.

The "bad guys" cannot bribe or otherwise harm me, and believe me when I say they have tried. What happens then is they use other means; they go after my girls. Everyone has leverage, even me.

I do it differently now, a piece of their existence has a place within me. They can be anywhere, yet they are still with me. No one threatens them now, well not for long anyway.

Having a girl inside can also be a lot of fun.

One time I sat down for my evening meal. Roast chicken, chips and salad. I found myself eating bites in a peculiar order. Then I hear: "Chicken please" then "chip please" and so on.

I know what is going on . . .

Then it was "celery please" followed by "celery please" perhaps several times in a row.

What is going on here?

"She doesn't like celery" was the reply.

They are learning to see through my eyes to hear through my ears, to taste. I do the same thing through the eyes of the fae.

It is simply a technique, and a common one not all that long ago. There is nothing wrong with it that I can see. At the supermarket they can help with the shopping.

It sounds fishy to me. But those are my alarm bells, due to my upbringing.

I bet it does . . .

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

well they did a very good job of suppressing pretty much anything that was non christian , Scotland already had its Druid like beliefs which also encapsulated the Daoine Sith , as the druid celts were very protective over nature like they were garden keepers and they loved and respected nature and I think their respect came from dealing with the daoine sith

it is still said to this day in the UK that if you cut down a solitary Hawthorne tree then you have committed a grave injustice towards the daoine sith and they can do great tricks upon you , from causing infertility among animals and humans alike , having rogue fires start on your properties , milk to turn sour, crops to fail.
There are plenty of stories surrounding them

a wee link to further myth

Schiehallion the fairy hill

a reply to: sapien82

A nice article, a link in the comments has photos of the hill and the cave of the Faerie queen Mab half way down the page. Blond and dressed in green . . .

A beautiful scenery, too damp and cold by the looks for me.

it is still said to this day in the UK that if you cut down a solitary Hawthorne tree then you have committed a grave injustice towards the daoine sith and they can do great tricks upon you , from causing infertility among animals and humans alike , having rogue fires start on your properties , milk to turn sour, crops to fail.
There are plenty of stories surrounding them

Here in Australia there are certain trees, the largest in a stand, that should not be disturbed.

When a retired couple bought the acre block next door the woman decided the big tree had to go.

My wife watched them have the tree cut down and said to me: "They should never have cut that tree" and walked off.

Within a year the couple were bickering and yelling at each other, they then bitterly divorced.

Some things the world over . . . .

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

haven't read all thirteen pages, but i have been fighting the urge to say this ever since the thread was first posted.

according to Black Sabbath Ferries Wear Boots and dance with dwarfs.

Lyrics
Goin' home, late last night
Suddenly I got a fright Yeah,
I looked through a window and surprised what I saw
Fairies with boots and dancing with a dwarf
All right now!

Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah, I saw it, I saw it,
I tell you no lies
Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me I saw it,
I saw it with my own two eyes
All right now!

Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah, I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies
Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me I saw it,
I saw it with my own two eyes
All right now!

So I went to the doctor, see what he could give me
He said, "Son, son, you've gone too far
'Cause smokin' and trippin' is all that you do"

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a reply to: NobodySpecial268

aye Ive read that one before and its really good as its a good bit of info on where to find the cave

I especially like this image , it looks like huge paving stones were laid down here at the top of the mountain

schiehallion - looks like flagstones

a reply to: sapien82

I found this interesting:

I performed a small ceremony by one of the shielings and was met by Faery Queen Mab dressed in her green robes with long flowing golden hair. She told me to spread the word and publicise my faery knowledge, not to keep it secret.

I always remembered what Queen Mab told me, but wasn't really sure how to proceed with it, and have always been worried that publicising these sites would ruin them somehow and take away their magic.

Source: Land of the Fae blogspot

* He knew how to "knock on the door".
* "She told me to spread the word and publicise my faery knowledge, not to keep it secret."

Where the door is and how to knock is all one needs to know really.
The second point is interesting. That is like an invitation. Come visit us.

That for some odd reason, reminds me of Findhorn in the 1960s. I read their books back in the day.

At first they worked with the fairies and grew the giant vegetables. Later, they said the vegetables had returned to normal. Coincidentally, that was about the time a christian influence emerged in the Findhorn books.


I saw that photo, impressive. The cave and flagstones were the two photos I liked best. You can almost imagine an fairy army moving down those flagstones.

A note for Sapien82.

I try not to look into many photos, what is there unseen in the photo will sometimes follow me home.

The flagstones remind me of the Australian indigenous folk. Before the arrival of the English colonials the indigenous folk were, one might say; nomadic. They followed the ancestral paths according to tradition.

Nowadays bitumen roads and farmer's fences cross the landscape. Yet the ancestors still walk the paths. One can 'see' them occasionally.

Like my mother's house in Perth Western Australia where every night about two AM a noisy religious parade would march from rear to front as if the house were not there. The direction they took was a beeline towards the Greek Orthodox Church. Though I never followed them to find out.

I would wager the flagstone location is similar.

Queen Mab dressed in green is akin to my Lady in Green. I call her "my" lady, yet from her point of view I am her human. A similar thing with the three wood nymphs that visit here.

So perhaps a few words of what I know of fairy genealogy is appropriate here.

In Arthurian Legend Nimue is the Lady of the Lake. In modern times there are more than a few locations claimed to be the home of Nimue. Ordinarily we would dismiss these things as improbable. We think of one Nimue and one lake; therefore the claims must be mistaken.

The wood nymphs that visit here are each; Nimue.

How can that be?

As I posted earlier in this thread, fairies reproduce through parthenogenesis. The fairy creates perhaps half a dozen copies of herself as her children. The children inherit the memories of the mother and the linage going back.

These children in turn have children of their own and so on. Each can remember being Nimue, after all they have the memories. In a fairy there is no subconscious mind to dim and loose the memories.

Since the time of the Arthurian Legends, Nimue has had her children and they have children of their own.

So the original Nimue is one.
Her children number six, that makes seven.
Each of those six had six more, that is thirty six plus seven.

Therefore forty three fairies who remember being the original Lady of the Lake. That is how one famous fairy can be in many places at once.

Queen Mab has four generations.

It is worth recalling the fairy view is not a vertical hierarchy. Tip the family tree on it's side and look again. If we stand before Nimue the youngest, standing beside her are her sisters. Behind them stand their mothers and behind them is The Lady of the Lake.

A mention of Merlin. It is said that Nimue taught Merlin all his magic and kept him captive for a time.

Merlin was a man, Nimue is a fairy.

What did a fairy do to Adam?

Merlin was enveloped in Nimue's womb for a time. Around Merlin was laid a boundary of self, an aetheric membrane, upon which was written everything Nimue wanted him to know. The Nimues here say it is so.

Merlin then simply had to remember.

Queen Mab's world welcomed my (deceased) girls. A safe home, and a future for them.

So thank you Sapien82.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

A post to tidy this thread so far.

The question comes to mind,
why do the Oriental gods often ride a dragon?

Commentary: Saint George is said to have killed the last of the dragons of Britannia. Dragons are revered in the Orient. It is not hard to figure out. A fairy and a girl is just the beginning.


Could it all simply be . . .
an accident . . .
in a forest . . .
with a fairy?

Commentary: Could it all be as simple as this?

Perhaps one might simply say;
Eve created Lilith, and Lilith created Adam.

Commentary: Humans think of history in linear terms; that there was only one "genesis" in the far distant past. For the fairy folk it is ongoing, many "Eves", many "Liliths" and many "Adams".

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In Western Europe, the last fairy and her human girl I know to challenge the church and state was Jeanne d'Arc; the maid of Lorraine.

Merlin and the myth about the maid of Lorraine
"France will be lost by a woman and saved by a virgin from the oak forests of Lorraine"

The legend evolved many years before Jeanne d’Arc was born. The prophecies were vague but concerned a young maid of honor and sacrifice who would become the savior of France. Some of these spoke of a maid of humble beginnings who would come from the “borders of Lorraine” or from the area of the Oak Forrest. She would be dressed in armor, carrying a sword and riding a white stallion.

In other accounts she would emerge from oak wood and perform miracles. The prophecies have been attributed to several sources, with Merlin being the most famous. St. Bede the Venerable and Euglide of Hungary also predicted her arrival.

Source: Jeanne d'Arc la pucelle

The memories of her life and more are with the fairy folk.


Feel free to ask me, and I will answer if I know.

A break for me and then what I know of the gods of old Egypt.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

saw these and it made me think of this thread





but I guess it could go in a few places.

an interesting video on altered states and communication, its not to long and worth the watch. obviously not for children.




ETA

The painting spoke to me as it is the first image I have seen with a female gray with hair, dressed and in a leader position


Video on the hidden commonwealth, I know its a YouTube video but it is worth the whole watch

a reply to: penroc3

Hi penroc, I listened to the video without any of the visual imagery. Yup, not out of place here in this thread. A lot of the Beings and experiences spoken of sounded familiar.

Noteworthy is the experimenters were using chemistry on the minds of volunteers. Whereas one does not need that with a simple technique and a lot of self discipline to build the skill. Some people this just comes naturally.

From memory, Carlos Castenada was simply instructed to stop the internal dialog in order to become a sorcerer. He may have called it stopping the world. It was also mentioned that "power plants" damaged the body.

The Buddhist(?) meditation is simply to stop thinking, if I recall correctly.

Both of those sound to me like the experience of between two thoughts.

I think that is what one must keep in mind when listening to the first video. One needs a lot of self discipline so as not to get lost in there. That is perhaps the flaw in the scientific approach talked about in the first video; they used un-self-disciplined volunteers. Though I must admit I have no idea what those scientists were thinking or wanted to achieve.

In the second video, The Commonwealth of Fairies; Kirk interprets through the cultural influences of the time, namely the church. I have not read the book, only the video above.

I wonder, did Kirk desire out loud to know more of fairies? If so, his disappearance may have been a simple case of his wish being granted, and then he regretted.

An interesting "coincidence" that you thought to post the video to this thread penroc. So thank you for this opportunity to state a case I may never have had otherwise.

So my commentary on the second video; The Commonwealth of Fairies.

Many things were brought up that are now fairy lore, for instance the taking of children. My thought there was the story of Hansel and Gretel. Two children abandoned by their parents in the forest, the children meet and outwit a cannibal.

The Great Famine of 1315–1317 (Europe) was perhaps from when the story originated. Who could blame a fairy who removed a child about to be abandoned?

And as Cutchin points out in his book THIEVES IN THE NIGHT: A Brief History of Supernatural Child Abductions, blaming the fairies was once a defense against the accusation of infanticide.

The idea too that the fae are demons as "evidenced" by the claim that they flee from the words "god" and "jesus" has been on my mind for some time. I wonder where that idea originated. I still don't know exactly, though I may have some foundations.

My suspicion is it is simply fear born of the past, a hidden reputation of those who wield those words.

The obvious one is what the church has done to the favorites of fairies. The torture and burning. In modern days, a child who sees or talks to unseen (by others) Beings would be considered in need of intervention. Especially in the later half of school.

What the church "cured" by torture and fire, modern society "cures" with chemicals and psychology.

I feel that is one major reason why the fae have backed away from humans. For a fairy to have contact with a human will cause the fairy's favorite so much suffering. A very effective and practical form of (spiritual) genocide. Repeated and prolonged trauma will create a fear of being reborn into this world.

Another reason for my thinking is this question: Why are the (deceased) touched by a fairy children stuck in an afterlife limbo condemned to simply wasting away. The fairies would not take them in even though they were many a fairy's favorite.

Before Queen Mab gave them a home, I had quite a few of these (deceased) kids. I worked out just how many children I had one day. To say "good morning" with a smile to one of them takes six seconds. If I were to line them up, it would take roughly four days to complete one cycle.

These (deceased) kids were not just a single instance with a fairy, they had a history with the fairies going back three ages. Back to the Tuatha Dé Danann.

So why wouldn't the fairies take them in?

The answer came from a small (deceased) girl who was very annoyed with me. I felt she thought me stupid for not seeing what is to her; the obvious.

She came up to my face and scowled at me. A hand to her forehead, she lifted her bangs and angrily pointed to her forehead. Upon her forehead was a white mark. The mark looked like the letter "L".

Erasing that for her made her happy.

The letter "L" traces back to the letter Lamedh. That is a symbol of the shepherd's crook. That mark is the mark of culling for these children of mine from this world.

They almost all had this mark in common.

It was when I had removed this mark from all of them, that Queen Mab came to my notice here on this thread. It was then that they were invited to the fairy realm. It almost broke my heart last night, the thought of loosing them.

Those children and their fairies go back to the Tuatha Dé Danann. I wonder about the fairy we call Lilith and the giant green eyed blond girl that was her first human.

So quite clearly the enmity between human and fairy is not simply of the western church. It is an ancient thing as demonstrated by the mark of Lamedh.

There is more to this than meets the eye.

Oh, and while I remember. A very good book on fairies that I have recently started reading (a very rare thing for me) is:

The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries by W. Y. Evans Wentz

It was recommended by an ATS member on a different thread.

I bought it on the net without trouble, or you can download or read for free on The Project Gutenburg.

A few thoughts within the intermission.

I was outside just now enjoying my cigarette. My "fairy wild place", perhaps a quarter of my half acre, runs beside my house.

The thought came to me: The Nature Fairies manifest in these left alone places. Tis the same as the blue fellas with many arms of the Vedic fame, whom manifest within the cow dung smoke.

It is the means through which they manifest.

This would propbably also hold true for what the physicists call plasma.

There is a "place" where I "see" tall long necked yellow greys. I surprise them every time I peek in there. These ones disassemble and reassemble matter.

Perhaps plasma is the means for these particular ones to manifest?

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In this earlier post NobodySpecial268 I mentioned the man in the middle attack.

A man-in-the-middle (MitM) attack is when an attacker intercepts communications between two parties either to secretly eavesdrop or modify traffic traveling between the two.

“MITM attacks are a tactical means to an end,” says Zeki Turedi, technology strategist, EMEA at CrowdStrike. “The aim could be spying on individuals or groups to redirecting efforts, funds, resources, or attention.”

Source: CSO Australia

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, is not necessarily true.

Fae don't have names, it is humans that give them those. Lilith is a given name. The giant green eyed blond girl that was the fairy we call Lilith's first "human" was probably not named Lilith by the girl's parents.

The Goddess Dana becomes Saint Brigit.

The People of the Goddess Dana, or, according to D’Arbois de Jubainville, the People of the god whose mother was called Dana, are the Tuatha De Danann of the ancient mythology of Ireland. The Goddess Dana, called in the genitive Danand, in middle Irish times was named Brigit.

And this goddess Brigit of the pagan Celts has been supplanted by the Christian St. Brigit; and, in exactly the same way as the pagan cult once bestowed on the spirits in wells and fountains has been transferred to Christian saints, to whom the wells and fountains have been re-dedicated, so to St. Brigit as a national saint has been transferred the pagan cult rendered to her predecessor.

Source: The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries - W. Y. Evens - Wentz, page 283.

Jeanne d'Arc becomes Saint Joan of Arc.

Joan of Arc (1412–1431) was formally canonized as a saint of the Roman Catholic Church on 16 May 1920 by Pope Benedict XV in his bull Divina disponente, which concluded the canonization process that the Sacred Congregation of Rites instigated after a petition of 1869 of the French Catholic hierarchy.

Although pro-English clergy had Joan burnt at the stake for heresy in 1431, she was rehabilitated in 1456 after a posthumous retrial. Subsequently, she became a folk saint among French Catholics and soldiers inspired by her story of being commanded by God to fight for France against England.

Many French regimes encouraged her cult, and the Third Republic was sympathetic to the canonization petition prior to the 1905 separation of church and state.

Source: Wikipedia Canonization of Joan of Arc

That is the man in the middle attack; the substitution of a name, or the giving of a title name.

The suggestion here is simple; go back to the source in one's research. Think of the fairy and not the saint.

I am no historian, nor a Frenchman, yet it seems to me that Merlin's prophecy; "France will be lost by a woman and saved by a virgin from the oak forests of Lorraine" may have been to do with the separation of the church and state.

If so, then Merlin's prophecy holds true.

Old Egypt. I won't call it "ancient" Egypt, there is no point. When I read Egyptology and the study of the kingdom, it seems a mess to me.

To follow history as written in the history books has it's pit falls, the least of which is you will not find what you are looking for because you will be lost in a world of theories created by scholars.

The present time below the Giza Plateau is where I started. There are tunnels under there full of treasure; gold and knowledge. The tunnels are also the home of dark fae. Flying things that look like black blankets with four sharp claws at each corner. They wrap themselves around you and sink in their claws. The claws as they sink in are the cold painless cuts of razor blades. The more you struggle the more they tighten.

Once you understand they are cursed fae, one can find a solution. Then the black fae let go and stand back, a shrouded human form they then take.

With every fleck of gold there is a curse, black goo behind the shiny things is what they look like.

When one knows this, treasure is treasure no more. One learns to walk on by without looking back. This was the first lesson of old Egypt that I learned. If you want to catch a human, bait the hook with gold or knowledge. It works nearly every single time.

There are other fae there too. Very large aspis and little ones too. They will hunt you down and bite you when you sneak past the Ka who guards everything there.

Ka, in ancient Egyptian religion, a principal aspect of the soul of a human being or of a god. The exact significance of the ka remains a matter of controversy, chiefly for lack of an Egyptian definition; the usual translation, “double,” is incorrect. Written by a hieroglyph of uplifted arms, it seemed originally to have designated the protecting divine spirit of a person. The ka survived the death of the body and could reside in a picture or statue of a person.

Source: Britanica

Sorry scholarly expert guys. When you meet a Ka, you will know the word double (of a god or human) is correct.

(grin) I got into so much trouble down there . . .

Looking back now it was worth it. The Egyptian fae all got to know me, and with the fae reputation is everything..

When I was younger I used to clear houses and locations of so called "dark forces". Twas an interesting time, I learned that there is always two sides to a story. To work out the problems so both parties can live in peace is often difficult. The problems of the living human are put aside and the other side is worked out first. It is what I do.

Sometimes I had to say to the householders; "it is you who is in the wrong" in a gentler way. Generally that is where the conversation stops. While the living people were very much affronted, the fae take notice of this human who did not side with human. This human looked for the middle path of fair resolution, and who is in the right and who is in the wrong. As I said; with the fae reputation is everything.

It is the same in the other world. To stand your ground toe to toe against the holier-than-thou spiritual world folks when they mistreat a fairy also earns you reputation. The fae begin to trust you.

The fae begin to bring you the dead for helping. It began as a one or two at a time in differing situations.

The adults I do not have much patience for as generally they should have known better in life. So I specialize in helping children. Children need adults until they are adults themselves. Adults are supposed to protect them. Kids get lost out there with no one to help them.

Children who died of neglect are not uncommon. Not long ago I found a girl in an old farm shed near where I live. The physical building was no longer there to my physical eyes, yet to her she still hid in that shed. Perhaps eleven years or so old and dressed in a dirty one piece dress. Perhaps a hundred years she has been there. It was easy to see she died of neglect. No problem, let's bring her home and clean her up. Introduce her to the other deceased girls her age who "live" with me.

Other (deceased) kids fall prey to the (deceased) fagins. Lost (deceased) kids get preyed upon there as well as the world of the living.

Then there are the diseases that linger after death. To help the dead these diseases must be "cured".

I have a medical book I use for the dead. The New Modern Medical Councilor - the 1959 edition. The book is written so in an emergency you can treat almost everything within the home.


(image is my own work and so public domain)

So many have died from plague and it sometimes lingers in the dead. Modern antibiotics will do the trick and cure an old disease.

At first I thought the whole course was needed as instructed. When you do that they dead will return at the given time like clockwork for their "cure". After the first case I found in practice that a single dose works a treat. There is no physical organic body you have to treat. A few grains of a medicine in a teaspoon of honey they can absorb through the mouth. It is surprising when you see them close their mouths, the medicine in honey permeates them. Their eyes light up and they begin smiling, this alone makes it worth while.

By the way, they are not contagious, as far as I know anyway.

One of the Underworlds I often visit, an underground fairy world if you wish, I was given two (deceased) children, a girl and her younger brother. It was explained by those fae, the children would not last much longer and the fae could not save them.

Congenital syphilis is what the children had. It should be noted that syphilis is not a disease sent by God to punish the promiscuous. The disease is designed to target the children.

Penicillin cures the disease. I have some amoxicillin left over from treating my old tom cat. It will do.

Some medicine, a bath, shampoo and brush their hair - don't be surprised it can be done. Girls need to feel pretty, this is important.

Nice English kids they are, Edward and his older sister Jennifer.

The trick when dealing with dead children is you have to over come their self image and the lies adults tell them. "You are not good enough", "You are a burden", "It is all your fault", "you are dirty" (the girls who died in church institutions) - these and more must be overcome.

So we come back to old Egypt and what an Anubis taught me when sending the dead. How to re-balance the lies for the dead.

It is simple really. With the dead before you, one weighs the heart against a feather as they say. However it is not the physical organ that is weighed, it is the green of sentience-nature I spoke of earlier that is weighed.

To understand this I will tell the reader something of the human astral, the so-called plane of illusion. In simple terms the illusion of the astral is simply made of the untruths we believe.

White lies and black lies.

White lies are the lies that do no real harm and create a false impression. That there is an nice old man sitting on a throne in heaven is one such white lie.

Black lies are the "you will burn forever in hell for what you did", and for a child the worst of all is "you are not good enough" and "it is all your fault".

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One can step outside the human astral world and see it as an egg filled with millions of feathers both black and white. The higher the whiter the feathers are, the lower the blacker the feathers are. That is the view of an Anubis.

To weigh the heart of a man is to weigh the lies he believes and more importantly; the lies he repeats to himself and others. Black against white giving shades of grey.

It is simple really when one gets the knack of it.

Hold the man's "heart" in the palm of the left hand, the feather appears in the palm of the right hand.

Then one can see where in the astral he will be. The darker the feather the lower he will be, the lighter the feather the higher he will be within the astral of mankind.

For the man who has fallen below the median point, one inverts the feather so white outweighs black in proportion. This gives the man hope and something within reach to aim for. He is still caught in the deception of the astral of mankind.

For the man above the median, one does not have to deal with him.

Demons to the left.
Angels to the right.
Simply walk the middle path.

Demons being black feathers, and angels being white.

It is lies that imprison mankind within a world of mankind's own making. Simple really, tis how an Anubis sees it.

Only once did I have to take someone for judgement. It was horrifying. The (deceased) man was hiding in a crowd, the Anubis gave him to me to send. What opened up above him I don't rightly know but the absolute horror on his face is something I won't forget. I have no idea what he had done.

That is how it is done still in the Egyptian fashion.

We are dour, the lies of man weigh upon us.
If man were to lie no more, our work would be done.
A change would come upon mankind,
a new world would open up, and we would be free.
-- An Anubis.

So how does one become an Anubis?

To become the god,
do the work of the god.

It is that simple. At least in old Egypt.

The fairy world and the world of the dead are said to be one and the same, I find it so myself.

When your reputation for helping the dead reaches a point, the fairy folk will award you an Anubis head. Perhaps a fairy glamour, I am not sure how they do it. But do I know the consequences very clearly.


(image is public domain.) The "weighing of the heart," from the book of the dead of Hunefer. Anubis is portrayed as both guiding the deceased forward and manipulating the scales, under the scrutiny of the ibis-headed Thoth. - Source: wikipedia

Once you have that Anubis head, the dead will find you, the fae will bring them to you. For me it became relentless. You're over worked and it is a thankless job. There is always more work to do; it is endless.

At first, it is in ones and twos. You learn to send both as one. Then threes and fours, then by the dozens and sometimes hundreds.

In my travels there are lots of Anubis, Sekhmet and Bastet still to be found today. They are all the same; (deceased) people who were touched by the fae. Personally I don't believe the Egyptian gods were ever gods at all. In the old kingdom as I term it, society and the people worked in partnership with the Fae.

That is until Ra betrayed his sister Isis.

That was when everything changed.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

NobodySpecial268,

As you’ve gone through this thread, you have hinted multiple times at some sort of nefarious effort underway opposing the fairies both in the living and in the dead/fae/spiritual realms. While we are on an intermission with this great thought experiment you have brought before us, I thought that I would explore the role of the opposing force for a while.

The words of Sun Tzu from The Art of War come to mind: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

I can’t help but think it might be fun and informative to embrace our inner Sun Tzu and further explore this mysterious opposing force that has positioned itself against the Fae (and your deceased girls) in order to better understand the fae themselves.

Fair warning - I’m going to inject my human biases into this and apply some my own insights from experiences with dealing with nefarious organizations.

The opposing forces known courses of action and capabilities:

1. Removing selected individuals from existence.
As you mentioned earlier, “The letter “L” traces back to the letter Lamedh. That is a symbol of the shepherd’s crook. That mark is the mark of culling for these children of mine from this world.”

Your use of the word culling to describe this process was something I reflected on. Culling, the reduction of a wild animal population by selective slaughter, imply there are some form of spiritual eugenics effort underway. The idea that undesirables are marked for execution gives a very Nazi type vibe to this potential scenario you are describing. After all, what kind of monster would want to cull abused and neglected children (human or otherwise)?
What motive or end state would anyone or thing gain by removing these individuals from the spiritual population?


2. Man in the middle attack technique.

The tactics and procedures that you’re implying about an unknown entity being able to perform these man in the middle attacks Is interesting but create some very challenging logistical considerations for a human organization in doing this. First, how would a human element or organization be able to sustain such an attack over the period of centuries and over vast distances? I think that is unlikely. That implies that no single human element would be able to sustain such an program, as that level coordination would require the ability to interact across both of Fae and human realms, and be coordinated globally over centuries. Based on those logistical concerns alone, I would have to conclude that humans could be involved on an a tactical or operational level but would not be involved on a strategic level, meaning whoever/whatever is coordinating and sustaining this man in the middle attack is not human (or mortal).

We may be able to explain how living humans may be able to be involved in this war against the fae, at least in a tactical or operational level. There is a paper called “Analysis and Assessment of The Gateway Process”
commissioned by the CIA almost 40 years ago and declassified In 2003.
www.cia.gov...
This implies of at least the possibility of a mechanism for a mortal human to interact with people/events/beings beyond their immediate sphere of influence as a 3 dimensional mortal being.

There is a lot to explore just in these known courses of action and associated capabilities with this mysterious nefarious entity….

On a side note, this thread reminds me a lot of a song I heard as a young man before I really had even a remote concept of this world. It’s called “The Highwayman” by Loreena McKennitt.
youtu.be...
The idea of individuals challenging fate for love or some other just reason, knowing it is a losing fight but still charging into it, and having those actions echo beyond the mortal world always seemed to resonate with me for whatever reason. It seems like an appropriate song to share.

a reply to: Flyingthroughlife

I like your thinking, through it we can delve deeper.

As you’ve gone through this thread, you have hinted multiple times at some sort of nefarious effort underway opposing the fairies both in the living and in the dead/fae/spiritual realms. While we are on an intermission with this great thought experiment you have brought before us, I thought that I would explore the role of the opposing force for a while.

"explore the role of the opposing force for a while." I think we must be careful in how we think of the term opposing force, and indeed the term role.

Generally people think in terms of personified good and evil, the light and dark thinking of duality. I don't think this applies here in regards to humanity and the fae.

The word "role" implies a plan. A role within a duality implies something created the plan and in return, implies a purpose.

I will use the word war here. I don't wish to imply that there is an actual "war", rather the principal of war.

For the purpose here, we can think of two types of war:

1. The conflict of opposition. For example: The Battle of Waterloo where the French faced the English on a battlefield.
2. The conflict of independence. For example: The American war of independence from British rule.

It is the second point I think is the basis for the conflict of human and fae. - A war of independence.

The words of Sun Tzu from The Art of War come to mind: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Sun Tzu has a place on my bookshelf.

A similar thing at the Temple of Apollo at Delphi: "Know thyself", "nothing to excess" and "surety brings ruin".

I would say; know thyself, know the battlefield, understand the enemy.

That is just the personal philosophy of an old warhorse who has gown tired of the fighting. This old warhorse thinks both winning and loosing is to achieve second place. Find the third option if one can.

Fair warning - I’m going to inject my human biases into this and apply some my own insights from experiences with dealing with nefarious organizations.

I like that. Some original thinking brought to the table.

The opposing forces known courses of action and capabilities:

1. Removing selected individuals from existence.
As you mentioned earlier, “The letter “L” traces back to the letter Lamedh. That is a symbol of the shepherd’s crook. That mark is the mark of culling for these children of mine from this world.”

Your use of the word culling to describe this process was something I reflected on. Culling, the reduction of a wild animal population by selective slaughter, imply there are some form of spiritual eugenics effort underway.

In a war of independence you want to remove the opposition from within your ranks. Once that influence is gone, the war for independence is over. Then the battle becomes one of maintaining independence and growth.

The word culling is correct though the implication of spiritual eugenics is secondary though not inapplicable. Eugenics is not necessarily a dirty word in my mind. As a home vegetable gardener I save seed from my best plants for sowing next season. It is in the application of eugenics that I take exception. The end does not justify the means.

The idea that undesirables are marked for execution gives a very Nazi type vibe to this potential scenario you are describing. After all, what kind of monster would want to cull abused and neglected children (human or otherwise)?

It does give that idea, and I think we must be careful here.

There is a difference between the man and the organisation. I think man is not himself when he is thinking and acting within the organisation. At those times the egregore manifests, and not the man. The egregore being the organisation.

To commit atrocities, generally the man must stop being man and surrender himself to the egregore. At least for a time.

What motive or end state would anyone or thing gain by removing these individuals from the spiritual population?

Motive is the important point. That brings us back to independence.

Independence is generally considered a noble justification. yet justifications are often just contrived excuses for something else. The hidden motive - the ulterior motive one might say.

These (deceased) kids I speak of have a peculiar demographic.

They are generally, with a few exceptions:

* Female humans.
* Between the ages of seven and fifteen years.
* They lived between the fifth century and the seventeenth century.
* They died young.
* They did not have children.
* They have had encounters with the fairies.

So I will give my own thoughts on the all important motive.

Independence from what?

That would be independence from the fae.

Why?

I think the answer here has it's roots in human nature. To be precise; the nature of men.

From what arises this nature of men?

I think it is envy, the envy born of what is potential within the relationship of woman and fairy.

One might say: The way of the fairy is the way of the womb.

1. The fairy builds a twin from the menses of the woman as an avatar for the fairy to exist and manifest within. This is in the period of seven to fourteen years.

2. In the child bearing years the fairy lives independently of the woman.

3. It is in the third period of a woman's life that the real potential exists. The fairy has an avatar, the identical twin of the woman. Now what would happen if the fairy and the fairy and twin entered the woman? The woman becomes the fairy's second avatar. Where the fairy's twin was non-physical, the woman is physical. There are perhaps parallels here with the kundalini process as described in the eastern texts. (I have not gone through the kundalini myself nor personally seen it happen, so I cannot say with absolute certainty.)

4. The ancestral and cultural memories are maternal.

Now what of men?

The best men can hope for is to receive knowledge and skills from a fairy. For example: Merlin taught his magic by Nimue.

The difference between men and women is basically this: women have wombs and men are wombless. Women have the possibility of a very intimate relationship with the fairy, and all the potential therein.

Men get comparatively nothing.

That said, men are naturally bigger and stronger. They are providers for, and naturally the protectors of women and children.

There is something very important in the saying: Behind every great man there is a woman.

The situation is the western world and it's thinking is the opposite of what is described above.

To win this "war of independence" means man has to destroy the relationship between the woman and the fae. Perhaps one might say the "war of independence" is independence from the gods of old. The coming of materialism can be seen as a part of this. One may also understand the modern intellectual concept of "equality of the sexes" as a part of this "war of independence" from the fae.

In this light, much of history begins to make sense.