Good news about long term immunity from vaccine

a reply to: RAY1990

I have not yet seen a single thread that demanded that people not get the vaccine. I have seen people concerned about its safety; I have seen people concerned about its effectiveness; I have seen people concerned about potential long-term side effects. All of these are legitimate questions; none of these are demands that people not take the vaccine.

I have a sister-in-law who took it. I was concerned and expressed my concern. She listened to me and still decided to take it. She was pretty sick after the second shot, but recovered. Not once have I told her "Don't take the vaccine!" It was her decision and she made it.

On the other hand, we have people like you who are doing everything they possibly can to shame others into taking the vaccine. A lot of them, and they seem to be pretty prolific. They typically use the same tactics you are in this post: they try to create a false narrative that anyone who doesn't take the vaccine is a "conspiracy theorist" and therefore shouldn't be listened to. Many are dangerously close to practicing medicine without a license. They are offering nothing whatsoever about the vaccine; all of their arguments are centered around how terrible this cold is and how anyone who doesn't get the thing is trying to kill Grandma.

So you can just stop right... freakin'... now. You are spreading propaganda and it will not work. Every post you make adds another month before I will be satisfied that this vaccine is safe and will be willing to even consider taking it. I have known too many people like you who think they know everything while knowing exactly nada, and who have harmed others in the process. They all then shrug their shoulders like "I didn't do anything" and walk away, leaving a trail of misery in their path.

I... we... see you for what you are, and you can take your lying narrative and shove it where the sun don't shine.

TheRedneck

a reply to: MrRCflying

From your source:

This is a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, which uses a relatively new technology. Unlike vaccines that put a weakened or inactivated disease germ into the body, the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine delivers a tiny piece of genetic code from the SARS CoV-2 virus to host cells in the body, essentially giving those cells instructions, or blueprints

Yeah I’m good. I’m all about advances in medicine and technology, but I’m good on all that without long term testing. Especially when it comes to using code to alter cells in my body. You guys have fun with that. I’ll wait for the update that fixes the bugs in the original code.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: MrRCflyingI would expect a strong immune response,they are injecting you with strong toxins for God's sake.
The stronger the toxin,the stronger the immune response.

I dunno... I'd rather grow a third foot from the vaccine than be 6 feet under from Covid..

Life over death ANY day.

I have gone this long without catching covid. I’m still alive. Shrugs.

I feel the same, but I just had a COVID test. I probably have it, so far a mild case. Even so I don’t want the vaccine.

a reply to: TheRedneck

This, exactly. It's good news on several layers. There are also non mRNA vaccines on the market, the thing is we don't know about the long term effects. And until that, especially with all the coercing, I will double down and watch it unfold for a while. This decision with the mRNA is too important and permanent to be rushed.

We don't even know them all for the common vaccines. Who else knows that one should not vaccinate young children with booster vaccines until their blood brain barrier is closed? I got this info from the head Dr. Med Prof during ICU time some days after giving birth, as we discussed my daughters condition and talked about upcoming vaccination to be delayed and tests / the future. She's now perfect healthy, no worries.

This is the hottest linkage to the few autism cases from vaccines in young children. She's now vaccinated for the most serious things but by far not against everything, by individual recommendation from that Dr. Med. Prof., very considerate type of person. The

Has nothing to do with COVID vaccinations but it's too important to not drop it when speaking about the topic.

I really don't want this to turn out to be another "my way or the highway" thread. I really don't.

I am not saying anyone must take the jab, or no one should. It is completely up to you.

I am against forced vaccinations, just to be clear. Individual rights.

All I wanted to do is bring some news from the past couple of days, that 'may' show the immune response to the vaccines are better than expected.

This would be good news, regardless if you choose to take the vaccine or not. It means that the talk about 'booster' shots or yearly doses like the influenza vaccine, it may actually be more like the measles vaccine. Once you get it, you are covered for life. Or maybe like the tetanus shot, once every 7-10 years.

None of this is set in stone, and more long term study needs to be done, but it is promising. Better than having to get a shot every year, or even less, as we have heard about in the past.

So please, let's not let this devolve into another one of those threads.

a reply to: MrRCflying
Your thread is much appreciated by me and others, some of us are just tired of being dictated what is good for us and what's not.

And when it's about my child, I have and will fight tooth and nail for preserving her rights and well being.

a reply to: TheRedneck

I have not yet seen a single thread that demanded that people not get the vaccine.

There have been more than a few threads telling people not to get the shot, mostly one offender, his threads keep getting yanked, all infowars crap as the basis.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

To pick up your metaphoric example, don't bother they will come with an auto-updater.

At least by some very far fetched self transforming nano bots assembling inside your bloodstream conspiracy. Entertaining and good material for a scifi horror book but not more beyond that

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: MrRCflying
Your thread is much appreciated by me and others, some of us are just tired of being dictated what is good for us and what's not.

And when it's about my child, I have and will fight tooth and nail for preserving her rights and well being.

It's all good. That is your decision and I can respect that. I won't go into details, but within my own family there have been arguments, hard feelings, no longer speaking to each other, etc.. The problem is it goes both ways. One side yells at the other they should not get the vaccine because of safety, testing, etc., the other side yells back they are being irresponsible, callous to others, they have to get it, etc.. I have seen a lot of the same here, from both sides.

I am seeing some weird social behavior in some people who got the vaccination, especially the mRNA vaccines. But then again, it could just be that the overreaction to this virus caused people to go nuts and now that they believe they are protected they are nuts.

Check this out...all that sanitizing and crap they were pushing was nothing but crap.

I washed my hands before eating after shopping, but am more Leary of the hand sanitizers than the virus.

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a reply to: RickyD

Yep.

The vaccines were fast tracked with the knowledge that the people would be the test group.

I washed my hands before eating after shopping, but am more Leary of the hand sanitizers than the virus.

a reply to: rickymouse

I'm not a Dr. and I'm not recommending anyone to use the hand sanitizers internally. But it works for me...slight buzz and the ringing in your ears dissipates in about 15min. The vanilla flavored ones mixed with Mt. Dew is very tasty. And no covid19 so apparently it's sanitizing my innards right good. It's my personal treatment for the covid but I'm close to getting it sanctioned by the Qanon.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
Good, then this means that those who want the jab can take it and stop being afraid and coercing others into injecting something they don't want.

First stories are coming out about dumb looks on faces when they get told they still have to quarantine, mask up and distance, regardless of the vaccination.

It takes 28 days for the immunization to reach maximum immune response.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: MrRCflying
a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Agreed. We also need to stop the shaming of people that do decide to get the vaccine by those that don't think they should get it. It works both ways, and needs to stop all the way around. Do as you feel best for you and your own. Don't coerce, and don't shame.

I'm sure it will stop as soon as the sheep shut up and stop trying to force their untested vaccines on healthy people.

And when, according to you, will the vaccines be tested?

So far, it is reported that 670 million doses have been administered. The vaccine is a small part, a protein or more, of the live virus, which we have human exposure details of, for more than a year.

At what stage would you say that the vaccines are relatively benign and have been tested on a sufficient population base?

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: MrRCflying

Pointing out logic to sheeple is not shaming. We're trying to help them.
Help them to not be scared and tricked by a fascist world government's desire to inject you the something that you should not be taking.

Trying to WAKE PEOPLE UP is not shaming. It's CARING.

And for the other shoe, telling everyone you see about your injection is just a way to make yourself feel less dumb and is only to help you sleep at night with your really dumb decision.
Just looking for other dummies so they can feel ok while hanging out at the Dummies Members only club (with a mask on of course)

Just trying to help people!

Also, to play devil's advocate: People pay taxes and this helps us all. If a large percentage of the population 'drops out' due to vaccine brain damage...
Well, my taxes are going to go up!

Asking people to not get the vaccine will kill many more people over time than you actually help.

And herd immunity requires about 80% of the population to have immunity before it really attenuates an epidemic. You can go the slow way by waiting for everyone to catch COVID-19, probably taking years and with the mutagenic nature of the virus may never reach (look at what has happened with colds and 'flu's).

Or, we could immunize a very large portion of the population in about a year, and achieve a definite herd immunity and the attenuation of the pathogen, before it kills people according to its known and measured mortality rates.

originally posted by: putnam6
How is the immune response of those vaccinated VS those who have had COVID but no vaccine at the 6-month mark?

The CDC never cared about how well the "natural immunity response" worked.

Even to this day, their website says, "Someone contracting Covid-19 twice is very rare".

No actual studies that I'm aware of.

Natural immunity doesn't generate a profit for medical providers, or provide opportunity for scientists to test and vary their vaccine concoction.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: putnam6
How is the immune response of those vaccinated VS those who have had COVID but no vaccine at the 6-month mark?

The CDC never cared about how well the "natural immunity response" worked.

Even to this day, their website says, "Someone contracting Covid-19 twice is very rare".

No actual studies that I'm aware of.

Natural immunity doesn't generate a profit for medical providers, or provide opportunity for scientists to test and vary their vaccine concoction.

Didn't you call it the WuFlu or the China Flu?

Look at how natural immunity protects us once and for all with the 'flu.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: MrRCflyingI would expect a strong immune response,they are injecting you with strong toxins for God's sake.
The stronger the toxin,the stronger the immune response.

I dunno... I'd rather grow a third foot from the vaccine than be 6 feet under from Covid..

Life over death ANY day.

I have gone this long without catching covid. I’m still alive. Shrugs.

Yes but you won't avoid the inevitable forever.

originally posted by: Nickn3

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: MrRCflyingI would expect a strong immune response,they are injecting you with strong toxins for God's sake.
The stronger the toxin,the stronger the immune response.

I dunno... I'd rather grow a third foot from the vaccine than be 6 feet under from Covid..

Life over death ANY day.

I have gone this long without catching covid. I’m still alive. Shrugs.

I feel the same, but I just had a COVID test. I probably have it, so far a mild case. Even so I don’t want the vaccine.

Once you recover, your immunity will be as good as those who have been vaccinated.

Steer clear of the man-made vaccine.

There's No telling what a double amount, and mixture of Godmade/Manmade Covid-19 antibodies, will do to your immune system!

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: MrRCflying

That's exactly what I mean...they had no clue if you'd have to take 1 or 50 boosters. They don't know any possible long term or latent side-effects either. They couldn't as they haven't had the time to.

The antibodies gained from having covid seem just as good as this vaccine we don't yet know a lot about. In fact I posit we know more about covid than we do the vaccine...and we still don't know a lot in regards to covid. Literally finding out new stuff all the time. If one has already gotten covid why on earth would I take a chance with something like these vaccines?

The antibodies we get from the vaccines are identical to the ones we get from the virus. That's how it works.