Bill Gates Wants to Feed You Bug Paste and Lab Meat

originally posted by: Sakrateri
At least someone is trying to help end world hunger, hell in another hundred years I am sure people everywhere will be crying for any kind of food. Kudos to him for trying.

I want to see a video of you eating bugs. Put your mouth where your words are.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: zosimov

Actually I was reading he is planning to build communities, specially targeted for certain needs, you may want to research on that, it seems he is going to create, vegan, meat free, goo and insect food paradises.

No doubt build on the smart cities mandate ,5g everywhere, designed to meet all the sustainable goals.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: zosimov

There is nothing wrong with eating bugs. People all over the world have done it and still do it.

Truth be told, I've become enough of a foodie that I'd like to try some of the insect dishes I've seen. I'm interested in fried tarantula for example.

But, and this is the big caveat, I want the real thing. I don't want highly processed versions of them.

If I'm eating vegetables, I want to eat vegetables - carrots, cauliflower, etc. - there are regular features of my diet now by choice. I don't want them ground up in patties with additives and flavorings pretending to be meat. If I'm eating meat, I want to darn well eat that and I do. So ... the conclusion here would be that if I'm going to sample mealworm or ants or anything else, I want to have them presented in the traditional dishes from the cuisines that regularly ate and eat them, not ground up in protein powder flours or something.

I can eat calamari if it looks like an onion ring but I can't eat tentacles. Just can't do it.

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: Sakrateri
At least someone is trying to help end world hunger, hell in another hundred years I am sure people everywhere will be crying for any kind of food. Kudos to him for trying.

I want to see a video of you eating bugs. Put your mouth where your words are.

you should avoid traveling around the world. and never watch a documentary about fast food and meat preparation.

ever had grilled calamaris with fries and tzatziki? and a glas of ouzo besides. hmmmmmmm!

originally posted by: fernalley

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: zosimov

There is nothing wrong with eating bugs. People all over the world have done it and still do it.

Truth be told, I've become enough of a foodie that I'd like to try some of the insect dishes I've seen. I'm interested in fried tarantula for example.

But, and this is the big caveat, I want the real thing. I don't want highly processed versions of them.

If I'm eating vegetables, I want to eat vegetables - carrots, cauliflower, etc. - there are regular features of my diet now by choice. I don't want them ground up in patties with additives and flavorings pretending to be meat. If I'm eating meat, I want to darn well eat that and I do. So ... the conclusion here would be that if I'm going to sample mealworm or ants or anything else, I want to have them presented in the traditional dishes from the cuisines that regularly ate and eat them, not ground up in protein powder flours or something.

I can eat calamari if it looks like an onion ring but I can't eat tentacles. Just can't do it.

The tentacles are the best part. They are more tender than the rings.

But with squid in general, it is extremely easy to overcook and goes from done to overdone in a flash. And overdone is tasteless rubber.

Next up..Bill gates want's your 1st born son, and left testicle

a reply to: oloufo

You're the second person to hold up squid as the height of gross out food.

What is it about squid?

It's not the gross or unusual. I've had monkfish liver, buche, lengua, tripa, chicken hearts are a staple at our house, have you tried conch, what about sea cucumber, uni, I've yet to experience a variety of roe I didn't like although salmon is my fave, beef tendon is like beef flavored gummy bear.

I like looking for unusual, or strange foods. Everywhere has calamari, not everywhere has some of those other things.

a reply to: ketsuko

Agree Calamari can be very tasty.

The only thing I have against eating it is that it is a very intelligent creature so is it ethical - and that is why I don't go out to buy it or order it but if it is in front of me on a plate I do not turn it down.

Now frog's leg's and snail's, no thanks - or Definitely I do not want to eat Whale or Dolphin, eating shark on the other hand is just putting the natural order back in it's place as far as I am concerned.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't know, but it is an important link in the ocean food chain. There are lots of things that depend on squid for their life.

a reply to: ketsuko

You'd enjoy trying the Inuit local food. I've had an opportunity to sample raw (frozen) caribou, caribou heart, beluga whale blubber dipped in seal oil, bear, musk ox, ptarmigan, and "fish ice cream" (caribou fat mixed w/ fish and berries).

a reply to: zosimov

Depends on culture and available resources but yes they have some strange foods, Kiviaq is another one I really do not fancy tasting but they love it.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: snowspirit

Funny, how the focus of the thread went from "bug sausages could help feed the undernourished of the world" to "those healthy alternatives may not be so healthy, gotta read the labels folks".

Not actual quotes, of course, quotes added for emphasis.

Lab meat is right in the title.
I don't want to eat off Bill Gates' menu.

But I really don't think the thread needs to be confined to only one idea.

Thanks ATS for another good discussion!

originally posted by: zosimov
Lab meat is right in the title.

I know, touched on that here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I don't want to eat off Bill Gates' menu.

So, don't.

But I really don't think the thread needs to be confined to only one idea.

I didn't say it should, I said the shift was funny mostly because it proves my "first world POV" remark made earlier.

ETA: And now it has moved from "read the labels" to "andrew zimmern ain't got nothing on me".

Earthworms taste like spirulina......like crap.

Chocolate covered ants don't taste bad, I thought they were chocolate covered raisins at first, but once you know what you are eating and look inside...they just don't taste that good anymore.

I am not fond of bugs and some of the chemicals in bugs are not very healthy for half the people in the world. Unless your ancestors ate them for a long time, you do not make adequate enzymes to detox some of their insect chemistry from eating them.

I suppose I can get some chickens if things get weird, feed the bug paste to the chickens then eat the eggs and chickens.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: oloufo

You're the second person to hold up squid as the height of gross out food.

What is it about squid?

It's not the gross or unusual. I've had monkfish liver, buche, lengua, tripa, chicken hearts are a staple at our house, have you tried conch, what about sea cucumber, uni, I've yet to experience a variety of roe I didn't like although salmon is my fave, beef tendon is like beef flavored gummy bear.

I like looking for unusual, or strange foods. Everywhere has calamari, not everywhere has some of those other things.

it also has to do with vacation memories. oh, greece! i prefer grilled baby calamari, they are much tastier, with lemon, rice, tzatziki and bread.

i'll eat anything if it tastes good. sometimes even mcdonalds.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: fernalley
That reality might be closer than we think:

Facility near Calgary to breed nutty-tasting flies as animal feed

"We would love to be able to feed our insects directly to people," operations and marketing manager Victoria Leung told the Calgary Eyeopener. "We don't think it's that far-fetched, but for now we're sticking to animal feed in North America."

I will expect it on grocery shelves after the successful propaganda blitz.

www.amazon.com...

Wow! A 9 gram bag of larvets for $28.00 Canadian on Amazon.ca Alberta beef way cheaper. This will never feed the world's poor.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

That price is stupid high right now. But only because demand is stupid low. 

I'm no economist but that doesn't make sense.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't know, but it is an important link in the ocean food chain. There are lots of things that depend on squid for their life.

The Chinese are trying to fix that, by stealing every god dammed squid in the ocean, a bit off topic, but countries need to start sinking illegal fishing vessels, and of course China does this fleet style..complete with tankers to supply fuel.

a reply to: LABTECH767

eating shark on the other hand is just putting the natural order back in it's place as far as I am concerned. 

You might want to research that a little bit.

Warning. The truth about Shark meat isn't pretty.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: zosimov

I find Gates to be one of the least trustworthy figures in the public eye. Even his "philanthropic" donations tend to go to organizations where he is heavily involved (board member, etc).

He could simply be taking advantage of the market to get lots of land for cheap. At the very least, Id be curious to see how much he paid versus how much it would have cost 1-2 years ago.

Given all his other stated agendas though, and that of the technocracy in general.. it fits in far, far too cleanly with everything from resource control in general to eliminating "ye olde" food supply chain.

Of course, they will be in control of the whole system. Any options that provide actual self-sufficiency are akin to heresy. Which is why we are hearing about freaking processed paste (lol) versus, say, technology and methods that can be under individual control.

We wouldnt want those poor starving folks to actually be able to feed themselves, amirite?

And I particularly love comments like "at least someone (Gates) is doing something!"

Very well said, imo.




I agree with the bolded part, definitely. I don't think the news bodes well for our collective futures. People are going to have to make major adjustments if they want any control over what goes into their bodies.