It's ok if you buy into the Fear of this pandemic, but please retain some common sense!

a reply to: American-philosopher

The financial and emotional rape was pretty bad, but at least
now they are moving towards anal swabs.

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To be fair...

I didn't actually do it. Haha!

I just told em I'd do it tomorrow and walked out.



I hope I didn't kill anyone!

a reply to: iammrhappy86

i have to completely agree with you I am so tired of this crap like at this point if i die i freaking die just lemme choose who gets my ss# to vote with

a reply to: vonclod
He would actually create more exposure standing there breathing taking the scarf off than if he just walked out.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: vonclod
He would actually create more exposure standing there breathing taking the scarf off than if he just walked out.

I'm not quibbling about the scarf per se. But when you work at a care home, hospital, w.h.y. there are protocols, you don't generally get to slide on.

I'm just as f'ing tired of this as everyone else.

This is the thing, control over others has always been the wet dream of wannabe dictators, in order to push the vaccine, CDC with Saucy fauci, do not want anybody to get those darn mask off, no sir, you get the jab, twice and still need that darn mask, one year for now you still need the darn mask, two years from now, well I think by then people will have given the finger to Sauci Fauci, CDC and big pharma.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: vonclod
He would actually create more exposure standing there breathing taking the scarf off than if he just walked out.

I'm not quibbling about the scarf per se.

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Changed your tune when I pointed out that in this instance, the enforcing of the protocol defeated the purpose of the protocol, huh?

Because your reply to me was that the “laissez-faire attitude” was the reason for 10,000 dead there.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: vonclod
He would actually create more exposure standing there breathing taking the scarf off than if he just walked out.

I'm not quibbling about the scarf per se.

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Changed your tune when I pointed out that in this instance, the enforcing of the protocol defeated the purpose of the protocol, huh?

Because your reply to me was that the “laissez-faire attitude” was the reason for 10,000 dead there.

I guess you never read my 1st post where I said it was probably good enough..huh?

You would think oh well good enough, and it probably was

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: iammrhappy86

So stupid! I have to wonder if the person asking you to TAKE OFF your thick scarves to put on the flimsy piece of Chinese paper was just on a power trip. Because that is absolutely so stupid.

It's because he works in a f'ing care home, in a province that had over 10k die, vs the 1500 here(sorry, not looking to Quebec for pearls of wisdom). You would think oh well good enough, and it probably was, but no, facilities don't run that way. You have protocols, and they get followed. The laissez-faire attitude is why 10,000 dead vs 1500.

Thanks for the cheap-shot, neighbor...

Guess you're not one of those : ' We're all in this together™ ' types, eh ?

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: iammrhappy86

So stupid! I have to wonder if the person asking you to TAKE OFF your thick scarves to put on the flimsy piece of Chinese paper was just on a power trip. Because that is absolutely so stupid.

It's because he works in a f'ing care home, in a province that had over 10k die, vs the 1500 here(sorry, not looking to Quebec for pearls of wisdom). You would think oh well good enough, and it probably was, but no, facilities don't run that way. You have protocols, and they get followed. The laissez-faire attitude is why 10,000 dead vs 1500.

Thanks for the cheap-shot, neighbor...

Guess you're not one of those : ' We're all in this together™ ' types, eh ?

Sorry you take it as a cheap shot, it's just a fact, not aimed.

And me, I'm going through the motions, doing whats asked.

We talk about opening things up, but lets protect the vulnerable, and let us go about our lives. Great, I'm all for it. The OP works in a care home, where we are warehousing the vulnerable..so there is where you might just do your best, not..it's good enough.

Understand my point?

a reply to: iammrhappy86

Was it one of those Garda™ rent-a-cops ?

Was in the emergency waiting-room about 5 years ago, and about 12 or so folks were watching the Canadiens game.
There was a shift change for the security-guards, and the new guy walked right-up to the TV, and shut it off, in the middle of the action.

Folks asked him why he did that, and he answered that it was too much trouble. Caused too many problems.

Was just observing it all, and his attitude was just oozing of a power-trip.
Fingers in his belt, chest puffed-out, pursed lips, nodding his head, looking down his nose at everyone etc...

The more folks asked him to turn it on, the more he just shook his head, and seemed so proud of himself.

Ya gotta think that being a goon is a good thing for their interview process.

a reply to: vonclod

Your point would be fine.
Just there was no need to add-in the cheap-shot.

The OP is diligent in all of the protocols, while on duty.
He was walking-out from the locker-room to the door, with his face covered in scarves.
It wasn't a big deal, but some unthinking, power-tripping drone tried to make it a big deal.

Ya gotta use common sense at some point.

Not even you would want to live in a world, constantly beat-down by mediocre authoritarians, would you ?

a reply to: Nothin

Of course, now you can get an app to use your phone as a universal remote control. I used to use one to change the channel at the pool hall where there were multiple TVs all showing the same sporting event.

It would have been fun in your case to have one and mess with the rent-a-cop.

originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: vonclod

Your point would be fine.
Just there was no need to add-in the cheap-shot.

The OP is diligent in all of the protocols, while on duty.
He was walking-out from the locker-room to the door, with his face covered in scarves.
It wasn't a big deal, but some unthinking, power-tripping drone tried to make it a big deal.

Ya gotta use common sense at some point.

Not even you would want to live in a world, constantly beat-down by mediocre authoritarians, would you ?

I hear you!, I'm just so tired of this, as we all are, and no, I'm not much for authority. In this last year, I have begrudgingly played along, but I sure don't know what to believe..tbh.

I can agree with you, they could of let OP go out the door he was heading for, the juice was not worth the squeeze here. I have been generalising more or less.

ETA..
A lot of our care homes got hit hard, 2 not far from me, one lost 40+ people, another close to that, the infections brought in from workers, that's why I posted..I don't really want to argue with people. I should just let it go.

I agree with you. It is good to have a balance and use some common sense. Although I approve of mask use.

Even so, these days, I will travel to a limited number of friends' houses. Two of them don't like wearing masks, although they are rather isolated. I don't wear a mask around them. Maybe I should? But I feel weird wearing one indoors at a gathering with one other person.

I always wear a mask around my parents, even while visiting them at their place or riding with them in the car. The mask is to protect them, not me.

This whole masking thing has gone beyond ridiculous.

I get that we have an infectious virus loose. I get that it tends to hit the elderly very hard, potentially fatally hard, and they (along with those who are immuno-suppressed) both need and deserve special protection until we can better treat this disease. I really, really do get all that.

But what I don't get is the blatant hypocrisy of the protocols used. If this virus is as virulent and contagious as is claimed, then it follows that everyone will eventually get it. Period. That cannot be changed, regardless if one stays six feet away from everyone else, wipes down every surface around them with bleach every hour on the hour, wears three face masks, and ensures that everyone they come into contact with also wears three face masks. Maybe, just maybe, if one wore a Hazmat suit continuously, one could avoid any possibility of contamination... but one would also have to urinate and defecate in the suit, never clean that out of it, and never eat. I do believe that in itself would prove something like 100% fatal.

So the best we can do is to take every practical precaution to keep the environments of those at high risk as sterile as possible. There will still be episodes of viral infection, but we can keep those to a minimum.

On the other hand, it is blatantly obvious that the OP described an actual forced possibility of contamination. The OP was already dressed for exiting the building, on their way to exit the building, wearing easily sufficient protections against breathing out viral particles. They were then told to remove their viral safeguards, risking further contamination to the residents, in order to minimize the amount of protection as well as force the OP to again possibly breathe out viral particles once outside, this time in weather that could have proved detrimental to their own health. That is not simply "following the rules," nor is it simply an error in judgement, it is (in my opinion) CRIMINAL. The OP was assaulted and the residents subjected to an additional and unnecessary source of potential infection.

In a just world, those mask police would have been hauled away on criminal charges.

To make matters worse, I am reminded of Andrew Cuomo. Governor Cuomo purposely placed infected patients in elderly communities, against the advice of all involved, and then refused to provide PPE to those establishments to even minimize the risk. As a result, thousands died. Andrew Cuomo has been saying publicly that his handling of the virus is something to be celebrated and upheld as some sort of "gold standard." That only makes sense if the measure of success battling a novel virus is the number of dead from it.

We are told constantly how the measures enacted thus far (wearing face masks, lockdowns, and social distancing) are essential for containing this virus. At the same time, while all these things are being applied, we are told the virus is out of control. Which is it? Either the virus is under control or the measures we have been taking are insufficient. One cannot have it both ways.

I am a heart patient. I have had, to date, 8 heart attacks, one stent, and a quintuple bypass. I am now disabled, as one wall of my heart is scarred and does not move sufficiently, reducing my blood flow and causing me to become quite fatigued at the slightest exertion. I attempted to wear a bandana once, when the regulations came out; I literally almost passed out within a minute. I simply am medically incapable of wearing a face mask.

That also means I am classified as high-risk for the virus.

So, it would follow that I am likely one of those who would not be asymptomatic. Now, since it has been widely acknowledged by the medical community that masks do not protect the wearer so much as everyone around the wearer, there should be no issue with me not wearing a mask; obviously I would be showing symptoms if i had the virus, which I am not. The state edict which requires masks makes a clear exception for those who have a medical issue that prevents them from wearing a mask. However, I have dealt with the following idiocy since the whole mask thing started:

• I parked at a store in a handicapped space close to the door to go inside. I made my purchase and tried to leave the same way. i was stopped and forced to walk the entire length of the store, a considerable distance, then back across the parking lot. I didn't make it. i had to be wheeled back to my car in a wheelchair, where I sat (layed back) in the seat for over a half-hour additional before I felt strong enough to drive. Once I made it home, I stayed in the recliner for another 24 hours trying to get my strength back, unable to do pretty much anything.
  
  
• For a while, Walmart (which is pretty much the only place to get certain things around here) placed a series of barriers made of metal sections and scene tape to force shoppers to walk up and down the sidewalk before entering the store. I refused to use it unless i was able to park just outside the entrance, a rare occurrence. Instead, I simply entered through the scene tape. If I could do so without breaking it, I did, but I adamantly refused to walk that extra distance for no reason other than to violate the provisions of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Incidentally, no one in the store ever challenged me over it.
  
  
• When I visit my doctor, I am required to wait outside in the car until they have a room ready for me; I cannot sit in the lobby. That's still better than the doctors who have refused to see me unless I wear a mask (and become comatose).
  
  
• When I visit the dentist, I have to undergo the same procedure as my doctor. In addition, they stopped using the more modern equipment out of fear that it might somehow spread the virus. Visits take longer and inflict more pain.
  
  
• When I have an MRI done, I am required to wear a face shield. That's better than a mask, but still leaves me short of breath after 10-15 minutes. The local MRI place lets me wear one while I pass through the lobby, then remove it when I am at the actual machine.
  
  
• I had a cranial CAT scan at a local hospital. I was initially refused entry, but finally they agreed to treat me if I held a cloth mask 6" in front of my face. Yes, you all read that correctly. I walked through the hospital holding a face mask in one hand a half-foot away from my face while I hobbled on my cane with the other hand.
  
  
• I needed blood drawn from another local hospital just recently, as one of the tests required special handling of the blood. I was not allowed to enter. Instead, I called the lab when I arrived, and they came out to the parking lot to draw blood. This actually happened twice, as they needed more than they initially got. I actually mentioned were they planning to perform operations in the parking lot as well... and it wasn't taken as a joke initially.

In short, while i have managed to get the medical care that I needed, I had to jump through so many ridiculous hoops and restrictions, some so asinine as to boogle the mind, in order to do so. Heaven forbid I am in a car wreck and rushed to the ER during this mass hysteria... I'll likely die from lack of oxygen while they treat me for injuries.

This is the healthcare system people wanted? Really?

TheRedneck

[a reply to: iammrhappy86

You're clearly not an anti masker, you were effectively covered up and they were wrong to make you wear a paper r mask.

The most important line, as far as I'm concerned when it comes to your post is...

originally posted by: iammrhappy86
What if I'm wrong?

I don't feel enough people ask themselves this. I did when weighing up masks etc. If I'm wrong then wearing a mask will have been a waste of time, no big deal.

But what if it's the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers that have got it wrong?

That's a different kettle of fish!

a reply to: djz3ro
Someone at work has just returned to work (yesterday) after being isolated at home because his son had tested positive for covid.
Before Christmas his wife had covid so he was isolated at home with his wife and kids.......husband, son and daughter did not catch it.

I asked him if he wore a mask at home when his son and wife had covid.......the answer was no. He told me that he slept with his wife and cuddled his son when they had covid.

He and his daughter did not catch covid.........even though they were all locked up together.....not social distancing.....no masks.

How come no one else in the family of 4 contracted covid in the two instances where covid was in the home?