Donald Trump acquitted in second impeachment trial

a reply to: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: M5xaz

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McConnell also said, during his official address, that the House Impeachment Managers proved their case, and that Trump is guilty as hell and did incite the violent attack on the Capitol and Congress. He went on to say that this case is the now under the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice.

In fishing, we call that "Chum".

How many more hate filled dems will rise to the surface? Dozens upon dozens. And they'll be hooked one by one and exposed to the noonday sun like the rotting corpses they are!

Is that why Republicans are eating their own and are so busy censuring Senators and voted to impeach?

Want to know why that is? It's because the Republicans in DC are not representative of the party's people. You talk about how it broke "Trump's power", but if that were so, you wouldn't see state level parties censoring those who voted to impeach.

Btw, it's not "Trump's power" so much as it is the mood of the people in the party at present. Trump is just the only person we have who has been able to effectively articulate what we're upset about and take the heat at that level.

Chachi, you can gas all you want, but you're not going to get your way.

A C Q U I T T E D .

Best Headline Ive Seen regarding Impeachment 2.0.

"Republican Donald Trump acquitted by a majority-Democrat U.S. Senate"

It’s really very simple. The Senate has no
Procedural or constitutional jurisdiction to hold
This “impeachment trial” because
This “Impeachment trial” whether The current President is
Being impeached or a former President is being impeached
Is in violation of Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution which provides that the Chief Justice of SCOTUS must preside over the proceedings. Chief Justice Roberts was not present which means it’s not a constitutional impeachment.

As set forth in the Constitution, “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside…”

So people have argued to me all he isn’t president anymore and this is why the Chief Justice is not there. But the left uses the same argument as to how they can impeach the president which is confusing to me. The dems say they can convict the President because he was impeached while he was still President.

So you are saying that yes he was President when we impeached him and this is why we can still have a trial but really no he is not President so that’s why the Chief Justice doesn’t have to be there. I don’t get it. In one instance you are ok with The President being the President but in another you are saying we do X because he isn’t PRESIDENT.

It doesn’t matter if he was the President or the former President the constitution is pretty clear about the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS being present and presiding.
In conclusion this was an unconstitutional impeachment due to violation of Article 1 Section 3 of the constitution

By the way people that are using freaking English parliament case law to set precedent for impeachment of a former President....please understand that we fought a war against the British Empire in 1776 so we didn’t have to be
Subjects of King George III.

Have you ever seen a Supreme Court case use English court cases for rulings? Last time I checked I didn’t see the British Flag flying over the Capitol...smh

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Trump's political clout is from his supporters, not the house or senate.

Not any more. The plebs don't dictate #

ETA McConnell is advocating for criminal indictments. The RNC has turned it's back on Trump and the "patriots" that followed him.

The RNC never wanted Donald from the beginning. It was his supporters that made him relevant, not the RNC.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: queenofswords
The Dems and Rinos were terrified of the witness part of the trial.

Something needs to go through a real court here!
You are right they are terrified of a real legal proceeding.

Eventually something will crack this egg open. I think the next opportunity will be the Dominion lawsuit against Sidney Powell. She will be represented by Lynn Wood.

We need to start hearing what the Left have to say under oath!

There won’t be a hearing.

a reply to: ketsuko

Want to know why that is? It's because the Republicans in DC are not representative of the party's people. You talk about how it broke "Trump's power", but if that were so, you wouldn't see state level parties censoring those who voted to impeach.

Republicans lost the Presidency, the Senate and The House in 2020. Someone has to pay. There's plenty of blame to go around, in my opinion.

The party is floundering since Trump failed to pay off for them. They put a lot of eggs in one basket. For heaven's sake, they didn't even have a "party platform" for them to campaign on in 2020, because Trump was too inconsistent and couldn't be trusted to stand by it and for it, argue for it and follow through on party platform promises. Trump WAS their party platform.

There's talk of break off parties, but I think that would be a mistake for Republicans. They need to unite, reassert a relevant, not a theocratic pie in the sky party platform, and align their candidates with it.

Believe me, I would have rather have seen a centrist, truly compassionate conservative, Republican in office right now, especially in this economy. But there isn't one. And, from the look of things, there isn't going to be one in the forefront for quit some time.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You and I both know that this is going to turn out exactly the same way that everything they tried to throw at Clinton did. Absolutely nothing will happen, although we'll keep hearing and seeing it for months, until another scandal that gets higher ratings breaks. Then again President Trump did manage to get a lot of networks some really good ratings and coverage during his term, they have to try and keep that gravy train going as long as possible.

As for McConnell, he's on his last leg and trying desperately to hold on to what little power he has left. Provided we have a legitimate election next time around (I highly doubt it, but one can hope), the good folks of KY will most likely give him the boot and the finger. The fact that he has an additional 6 years to smell up the senate just goes to show that term limits for every elected and appointed office should be in place.

a reply to: Sookiechacha


I love it when progressives dictate to us like we should take their opinion.

a reply to: ketsuko

You have a pretty high opinion of yourself!
Like I think that you have any influence over the Republican party, the GOP, the DNC, their platform or anyone who matters in leadership. LOL That my response to YOU on a message board on a conspiracy website would matter to anyone but those involved in this particular conversation in this particular thread.

Get over yourself!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Barely. Mitch McConnell is on the Senate floor right now, ripping Trump apart. I've never seen this man so emotional.

At any rate, Trump's political clout is gone.

Now, the criminal indictments commence.

You mean the made up criminal indictments which you, and your so "compassionate" mob of mindless zombies, use to go after your political opponents and use our opposition to socialism, fascism, communism as evidence of malfeasance?...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

President Trump has more political clout that oBongo and Biden

That’s undisputed

2024 will upset you a whole lot more than 2016 did I believe

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Oh, make no mistake! I don't think a president that incites a violent insurrection to overturn an election he lost to maintain control through mob rule deserves compassion.

a reply to: Hypntick

Except for the fact that Hillary Clinton did commit crimes... When a court demands that you turn over evidence in your possession, and instead you wipe, bleach, burn that evidence it is called "obstruction of justice" and "tampering of/with evidence."

Tampering with evidence
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Tampering with evidence, or evidence tampering, is an act in which a person alters, conceals, falsifies, or destroys evidence with the intent to interfere with an investigation (usually) by a law-enforcement, governmental, or regulatory authority.(1) It is a criminal offense in many jurisdictions.(2)

Tampering with evidence is closely related to the legal issue of spoliation of evidence, which is usually the civil law or due process version of the same concept (but may itself be a crime). Tampering with evidence is also closely related to obstruction of justice and perverting the course of justice, and these two kinds of crimes are often charged together. The goal of tampering with evidence is usually to cover up a crime or with intent to injure the accused person.

Tampering with evidence

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Oh, make no mistake! I don't think a president that incites a violent insurrection to overturn an election he lost to maintain control through mob rule deserves compassion.

How about this. instead of talking out of your rear end, like you never-Turmpers do daily, how about you post the entire speech, including the context, and then after showing the context used in that speech, you explain to us how and which part of that speech incited violence?...

Don't CLAIM he did it, and don't post someone else's CLAIM that he did it... We have direct evidence which contradicts your CLAIMS, and that of other "never-Trumper swamp creatures..."

a reply to: ketsuko
Dictate?

I do not think it means what you think it means.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ketsuko
Dictate?

I do not think it means what you think it means.

ROFLMAO... a never-Trumper attempting to claim someone doesn't understand words or concepts...

You TRIED to sound smart, but you FAILED miserably...

You shouldn't pretend you are something, or someone, you are not.

Ketsuko used the word "dictate" in an intelligent manner which makes sense... Having you attempting to claim "Ketsuko doesn't know what the word dictate means" only proves it is you whom doesn't understand how that word is used in a sentence, or what it means...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
The post they were replying to used the phrases "in my opinion" and "I think that would be a mistake", hardly someone dictating.

I'm also not a never-Trumper, makes no difference to me who sits in the oval office.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

First off, the election was stolen.... for goodness sake, are you just going to ignore the fact Time Magazine just came out and admitted as such!! They even admitted that the court cases were thrown out through the power of the rich and powerful putting pressure on the court system to throw them out or delay the cases TILL AFTER the inauguration. Those court cases are finally getting to the supreme court this week.... it will be interesting to see what happens when the logs with the IP addresses of the foreign computers and the vote totals of switched votes are presented as evidence in the highest court in the land. Trump has every right to be upset along with the 85million who voted for him.

Secondly, apparently you don't have the IQ level to either read the transcripts of trumps speech or even understand the audio.... but Trump said for the people to "peacefully march to the capital and make your voices heard" is NOT inciting an insurrection. Unlike many of the democrats, Trump didn't ask for violence. We also know the violence at the capital wasn't trump supporters... the FBI/DC police have released the evidence collected. The Boogaloo boys, a far leftist anarchist group who hates trump, posted about their infiltration of trump supporters, that they rallied and tricked trump supporters into following them.... but they did the smashing and breaking... they were responsible for the violence! And they have posted as such all over their social media accounts!

So quit blaming trump and maga supporters for this.... at this point it just makes you look ignorant to keep spreading such lies in the face of the evidence out there.