Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: Boadicea
However, for the most part, no, I do not believe that. My best guess is that no matter what is found, probably two-thirds to three-quarters of the population will accept the results of the audit, and about half of the remainder will be undecided and the other half won't believe even if Jesus personally told them while fixing their fish dinner and serving them wine.

I'm not talking about the total population, I'm specifically talking about the deluded Republicans who think this is legit. More than 60% will still think Great Brain Boat Parade lost because of fraud and not because he turned off the electorate with his assholish behavior.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Would you? Did these alleged bamboo ballots come with a purchase order with a name attached? No? How do you find these people? Answer: You don't, because they're as real as the Easter Bunny.

Well yes! I don't believe there are any bamboo ballots printed in China. So I do in fact think Chinese ballots are as real as the Easter Bunny. But I'm also quite happy to have the ballots tested for bamboo fibers just to rule it out.

As I've stated before, I'm more inclined to think the bamboo paper ballots is deliberate disinfo. I think it's far more likely that there were more than enough extra official ballots for them to do their dirty work, especially since voters who legally and lawfully requested new ballots were illegally and unlawfully refused new ballots.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Hey how did that fair go, it was going to disrupt the audit, remember? Or do we just pretend those loonies who said it didn’t really say it?

LOL! Everyone -- left, right and middle -- thought that fair was crazy!!!

And I am definitely one of them... so I am oh-so-relieved that my worries were for nought.

originally posted by: Boadicea
But I'm also quite happy to have the ballots tested for bamboo fibers just to rule it out.

Why not test them for element 115 to rule out John Titor and Area 51 involvement? Where does the idiocy line get drawn?

As I've stated before, I'm more inclined to think the bamboo paper ballots is deliberate disinfo.

Obviously being taken seriously by the assclowns running the audit.

Just to keep the "Bamboo" thing politically correct - LOL if remotely possible - it was a Libertarian that said that Not a Republican nor Democrat

FLASHBACK
Libertarian Party Hits Maricopa County With Lawsuit For Denying Access To Audits

The Libertarians’ lawsuit names as defendants in the lawsuit are Maricopa County, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors as an entity, the five individual supervisors in their official capacity, County Recorder Stephen Richer, Interim Board Clerk Juanita Garza, and Reynaldo Valenzuela Jr., the county’s director of election services.

The lawsuit contends that the Libertarian’s observer should be allowed to monitor what is happening during the audit. That observer, John Brakey, is the director of the non-partisan Audit Elections USA and has 17 years of experience monitoring, observing, and investigating elections in Arizona and numerous other states.

Contractors looking for bamboo in ballots after unconfirmed claim they were shipped in from Asia

John Brakey is with the group called "AUDIT" which he says is an acronym for Americans United for Democracy, Integrity, and Transparency in Elections. "There's accusations at 40,000 ballots were flown in in to Arizona and it was stuffed into the box OK, and it came from the southeast part of the world Asia, and and what they're doing is to find out if there's Bamboo in the paper." Brakey said.

Not the Cyber Ninjas

AUDIT USA

Elections Rightfully Belong to The People
Not to political parties. Not to the candidates.
And certainly not to corporations.
AUDIT USA works for election transparency -- so regular people can verify whether our votes are counted accurately.

Nearly all votes cast in the United States are fed into computers for counting. Even if you vote on a paper ballot, that ballot is scanned into a computer, not counted by hand. While that may sound efficient, it’s a huge problem. Because these computers can be programmed to produce any result, no matter how the voters voted.

When Republicans Were Blue and Democrats Were Red
The era of color-coded political parties is more recent than you might think

That’s right: In the beginning, blue was red and red was blue and they changed back and forth from election to election and network to network in what appears, in hindsight, to be a flight of whimsy. The notion that there were “red states” and “blue states”—and that the former were Republican and the latter Democratic—wasn’t cemented on the national psyche until the year 2000.

Interesting discovery...

Antrim County Audit Attorney Finds Program on Connected Voting System that could Manipulate Michigan Votes

DePerno claims they found MySQL database management software on the tabulation machines in Antrim County. This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, it’s not supposed to be there, which means someone intentionally put it there. Second, it can be used to manipulate the database and make changes to results.

“It is not a certified program on that system,” he said. “And you can use that system to manipulate the votes. You can use that system to go right into the Election Management System database and do whatever you want.”

noqreport.com...

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm not talking about the total population, I'm specifically talking about the deluded Republicans who think this is legit. More than 60% will still think Great Brain Boat Parade lost because of fraud and not because he turned off the electorate with his assholish behavior.

Um... from where I'm sitting, right here in Maricopa County, Arizona, the Pubs are more likely to dismiss the audit as worthless because the Dems already destroyed the evidence, or because the Dems covered their tracks, or some other piss poor excuse that allows them to continue thinking the worst without any proof.

I've said before and I'll say again, it's not the AZ Pubs who are pushing for this audit. It's the Independents and Libertarians pushing for the audit. Because we don't trust ANYONE! So the whole left-right echo chamber propaganda doesn't fly here. It may be appropriate elsewhere, but not here.

a reply to: Boadicea

Your post sums up why people will believe this in perpetuity, "I know there was fraud! But the dirty Dems covered it up already!".

ETA: Look, believe what you want and allow me to laugh at those people. That's a fair arrangement.

a reply to: MetalThunder

Interesting, maybe Brakey changed his registration, but I understood him to be a progressive Democrat -- a Bernie Bro.

Democrat Auditor and Bernie Supporter: “Arizona Audit is First Real Audit Since Election – They Built a Computer that They Knew Would Cheat” (VIDEO)

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Boadicea

Your post sums up why people will believe this in perpetuity, "I know there was fraud! But the dirty Dems covered it up already!".

To a certain extent, yes, that's exactly what my post is saying... there are some -- including Republicans -- who will believe what they want to believe no matter what. And if we're honest here, some people are so stupid and/or deluded that they don't even know how stupid and/or deluded they are. And don't want to know.

ETA: Look, believe what you want and allow me to laugh at those people. That's a fair arrangement.

Fair enough -- agreed! And just between you and me, I will laugh along with you sometimes... because you do make me laugh even when I disagree!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go find my tumorlick...

I find it amusing that so many people claim how ridiculous the idea of mass fraud possibly happening.

Ballot box stuffing is literally as old as our country, moving it to a digital format didn't make it harder it made it easier, you only need to flip 1 person to taint the results for a lot of people, rather than need people at each counting location.

Did we have wide spread fraud no we didn't, but widespread fraud wasn't needed just the right counties being pumped up to flip the right states and your aunt becomes your uncle.

I am perfectly willing to accept the results of an audit, as long as I get to read the data myself and it doesn't get "classified".

I also fully understand that even if they prove fraud on a large scale, Biden will still be president, he will just be a lame duck president.

Let the audit happen and either prove it or disprove it, if they cant prove it democrats have something to stand on going into midterms, if they prove it I expect we will see a number of prominent democrats decide to retire, and probably a number of republicans as well.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Did we have wide spread fraud no we didn't, but widespread fraud wasn't needed just the right counties being pumped up to flip the right states and your aunt becomes your uncle.

Something else that needs to be remembered is that depending on the specific type of fraud, the actual number of fraudulent votes may only constitute half the margin of the win.

So if votes were being flipped, for example, in effect one vote equals two in the margin of difference, because that one vote for Biden is one less for Trump. If that one vote is taken from Biden and given to Trump, it reduces the margin by two.

I hope that makes sense!

a reply to: Boadicea

Don't forget your moleasses and hemorrhoidal silver.

You guys are hopeless. This audit proves again Trump lost....now you are literally grasping at pieces of bamboo to claim otherwise.

Time to move on!

The sad thing is most of you do not realize how toxic the GOP has become as a result of Trumpism...the 2022 election will be telling.

At this point I think we need to let the Republican party die and let a true conservative party rise up and fill the void.

originally posted by: jrod
You guys are hopeless. This audit proves again Trump lost....now you are literally grasping at pieces of bamboo to claim otherwise.

Big BIG sigh... I have actually stated several times that I think the whole Chinese printed ballots is disinfo deliberately introduced to muck up the waters. However, it has been introduced, it is believed by many (if only as a possibility), and it's easy enough to prove or disprove bamboo in the paper stock. So let them do the tests and prove or disprove it. Easy peasy.

Time to move on!

Indeed. The tests have been performed, we'll find out one way or another with the report.

The sad thing is most of you do not realize how toxic the GOP has become as a result of Trumpism...the 2022 election will be telling.

Speaking only for myself, I was well aware of how toxic the GOP has become period. With or without Trump. Before, during and after Trump. Trump or no Trump. And while I can only speak for myself, the numbers tell us that plenty of others are also aware... hence the mass exodus of 24,000 registered Republican voters here in Arizona changing their registration to Independent or third party. Independents now number more than Democrats, and are very close to equaling Republicans. That doesn't even take into account the many third-party registrants.

At this point I think we need to let the Republican party die and let a true conservative party rise up and fill the void.

You may get your wish. I posted an article last night about Republicans threatening to start a new party because the Republican party has been so "tainted" by Trump...

ETA: Here ya go!

'The GOP is broken. It's time for a resistance': More than 100 Republicans - led by 'Anonymous' Trump critic - sign letter threatening to form third party unless it breaks with former President

a reply to: jrod

Deeper I get in my research in Tech (finished my masters thinking about a phd in cyber security for giggles)I am more in favor of auditing every federal election from here on out.

This isn't about trump, (hint: I didnt vote for him or biden) its about belief in the system, if people don't believe in the system then eventually there will be conflict.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
If their "proof" is not definitive, then it's not proof of anything.

I'll bet you every penny you have that you'll still have a super majority of Republican Karens whining that the election in Arizona and the United States was stolen.

You wanna take that bet?

And if Cyber Ninja says they found something are you going to believe them?

originally posted by: Annee
And if Cyber Ninja says they found something are you going to believe them?

If it involves bamboo, satellites and the Jewish people, hell yes.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Annee
And if Cyber Ninja says they found something are you going to believe them?

If it involves bamboo, satellites and the Jewish people, hell yes.

What?

No ETs?

a reply to: Annee

No ETs but there are other players

REVEALED: China’s State Propaganda Group Boasts Control Over Western Think Tanks, ‘Election Integrity’ Groups, And Even Joe Biden’s National Security Team.

The Chinese Communist Party’s Cyberspace Administration of China has boasted of one of the most critical connections between the 2020 U.S. Presidential election, the COVID-19 pandemic, and the groups and individuals campaigning to stop President Trump and his “America First” agenda, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.