Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: knoxie
Donald Kirk Hartle, republican who went on all the right wing news organizations whining and crying that some one stole his dead wife’s ballot.

Turns out it was him.

Lololololol

What a douche.

Thoughts?

Tucker sure whined and cried about this, too. Should he apologize considering he got it SO wrong? Nah….



Wouldn’t surprise me if the Arizona audit, the spectacular ninjas, found a boat load of republican fraud and that’s the reason they’re are not releasing results. Lol

This is exactly what I was trying to allude to, without coming out and just saying it. Was kind of hoping all these audit nuts would do their own research and figure it out themselves..

originally posted by: vkey08
Was kind of hoping all these audit nuts would do their own research and figure it out themselves..

LOL.....picture that.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: opethPA

The same advice is true today. Looking out for your best interest.

So is that same advice applicable to you for talking about Wisconsin also?

Looking out for your best interest also.

a reply to: knoxie

This guy was charged but the evidence is real thin and it's a setup that will be proven 😃

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: knoxie

This guy was charged but the evidence is real thin and it's a setup that will be proven 😃

Desperation time for them...on several fronts.

A good sign.

a reply to: carewemust

Nope, just want to see results.

Shine a bright light on the whole damn thing.

It’s what you want too, right?

originally posted by: carewemust


Desperation time for them...on several fronts.

So, let me understand this.... the level-headed thinkers who aren't pushing this audit nonsense based on meritless accusations that were proven in court many times to be meritless and without basis, and are winning this little conspiracy theory fueled rage, are the ones acting out in desperation?

You're joking right? No sane person could be serious about that.

Update from Wisconsin:

www.jsonline.com...

Republicans in the state Senate announced Monday they were launching a review of a recently completed audit of the 2020 election, just days after one of their members said the audit had shown voting had been safe and secure. The announcement kicked off a review — limited in scope for now — of an audit that was completed three days earlier after months of work. A separate, more expansive review by Assembly Republicans is ongoing.

The attorney tasked with reviewing the 2020 election has hired a lawyer at taxpayer expense to try to keep the effort alive Senate leaders in a news release said that audit's findings "paint a grim picture of the Wisconsin Election Commission and their careless administration of election law in Wisconsin." The leaders said they planned to authorize the Senate Elections Committee to start its review as early as Tuesday. The approval will allow the committee to look into the decisions of officials in Madison, Milwaukee County and Little Suamico to bar auditors from handling their ballots and other election records. Your stories live here.

Madison City Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl said she had told auditors they could look at her records but could not touch them because of guidance from the U.S. Department of Justice that strictly limits who can handle election documents. Auditors never accepted her invitation to look at her records, she said. Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway backed the city's stance in a statement Monday, saying she didn't want election officials to face criminal penalties for letting others handle their records. "(Auditors) did not provide any legal authority which would supersede these statutes," she said in a statement. Republican senators argued state law required local officials to fulfill auditors' requests. They said auditors should be able to handle ballots and other records, not just look at them. "I just think their excuses are flimsy," said Sen. Kathy Bernier of Lake Hallie, the chairwoman of the Senate Elections Committee.

a reply to: sciencelol

How many voters are in the counties biden won vs the amount of voters in the counties he lost?

You want to ignore this question? Why?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: knoxie

This guy was charged but the evidence is real thin and it's a setup that will be proven 😃

Desperation time for them...on several fronts.

A good sign.

What desperation? Seriously?? I mean does it mean so much to you to waste so much money and time and effort thinking about how many ballots had one fleck of bamboo in it vs how many ballots were sent out in 1899 vs 2020?

If anyone were desperate it's the Audit Nutz (tm) that keep pushing this day after day, moving every goalpost, and screaming that people "just don't get it" every time they are challenged by rational thought.

Wha the heck happened to ATS when the people that think a deadly virus is a fake made up to control you and that somehow Biden cheated to win an election are in the majority? A few years ago, BT, that would have been unthinkable... Now the messiah comes along and it's all on the table? What's next, nanites in your milk?

a reply to: vkey08

What was your opinion of the Mueller investigation?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: vkey08

What was your opinion of the Mueller investigation?

Waste of time, totally motivated by politics, not by reason or fact. Both sides have done horrible things over the past 4 or so years, meanwhile important things are not getting done, heck we will be approaching another debt ceiling soon, all money spent under the previous administration and one of the two parties refuses to even acknowledge that. Not because it's not true, but because they are more interested in playing some dangerous political games.

This is why I am so opposed to all of this audit stuff, it's being done 100% for political reasons, despite what people have told themselves. I said it before and I will say it again, if his lord and highness the great and powerful Orange One hadn't made such a stink that he couldn't lose without fraud, or that he himself can't handle losing, this time and money would not be spent and we could get back to trying to deal with more important issues.

Instead we have Marjorie Taylor Greene screaming at everyone she can, Lauren "I married a sex offender" Boebert doing that same, and a mass of Republicans too afraid of their own shadows because of Trump to speak up and end this madness.

Enough is enough is enough, doesn't anything like oh maybe getting back on our feet after a disaster of almost 2 years mean anything? What is it going to take? 150 of 350 million dead from a virus, but it's all ok because we are auditing elections... This is my problem.

That and I need coffee.. but I can at least solve that one.

a reply to: vkey08

Point for being consistent.

However you are aware that while you're attempting to verbally eviscerate outcast Rs, the Ds are trying to spend another 2.5T on essentially pet projects, yea?

Not to mention all the hot water Fauci is in.

If there is any sort of remedy to a very plagued election system, ill be ok with that.

Hell even HRC warned of Dominion YEARS ago.

originally posted by: JinMI

However you are aware that while you're attempting to verbally eviscerate outcast Rs, the Ds are trying to spend another 2.5T on essentially pet projects, yea?

You are aware that disdain for both scenarios are not mutually exclusive right?

a reply to: alphabetaone

Indeed.

I'm also aware of feigned non-partisanship.

originally posted by: IndieA
Update from Wisconsin:

www.jsonline.com...

Republicans in the state Senate announced Monday they were launching a review of a recently completed audit of the 2020 election, just days after one of their members said the audit had shown voting had been safe and secure. The announcement kicked off a review — limited in scope for now — of an audit that was completed three days earlier after months of work. A separate, more expansive review by Assembly Republicans is ongoing.

The attorney tasked with reviewing the 2020 election has hired a lawyer at taxpayer expense to try to keep the effort alive Senate leaders in a news release said that audit's findings "paint a grim picture of the Wisconsin Election Commission and their careless administration of election law in Wisconsin." The leaders said they planned to authorize the Senate Elections Committee to start its review as early as Tuesday. The approval will allow the committee to look into the decisions of officials in Madison, Milwaukee County and Little Suamico to bar auditors from handling their ballots and other election records. Your stories live here.

Madison City Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl said she had told auditors they could look at her records but could not touch them because of guidance from the U.S. Department of Justice that strictly limits who can handle election documents. Auditors never accepted her invitation to look at her records, she said. Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway backed the city's stance in a statement Monday, saying she didn't want election officials to face criminal penalties for letting others handle their records. "(Auditors) did not provide any legal authority which would supersede these statutes," she said in a statement. Republican senators argued state law required local officials to fulfill auditors' requests. They said auditors should be able to handle ballots and other records, not just look at them. "I just think their excuses are flimsy," said Sen. Kathy Bernier of Lake Hallie, the chairwoman of the Senate Elections Committee.

Thank-you for sharing the latest Wisconsin developments. They dovetail nicely with what I posted a couple days ago in this thread.

Here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's good to see responsible/smart authorities reading the statistical findings, and not simply reading the written summary of these audits and investigations.

originally posted by: JinMI
non-partisanship.

I think you honestly haven't a clue about what this means.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: JinMI
non-partisanship.

I think you honestly haven't a clue about what this means.

Ah, I honestly don't give two fluffs what you think.

Good morning all --

James Knox, of The Liz Harris Voter Integrity Project, has created a "Cheat Sheet" to summarize some of the most problematic findings from the audit:

James Knox of The Liz Harris Voter Integrity Project

The first page covers the audit findings:

The Maricopa County Forensic Election Audit report was presented by Doug Logan of Cyber Ninjas on 9/24/21. Refer to Volume 3 of the audit report which you can find [at] www.azsenaterepublicans.com...:

1. Paper Count: You can count the paper ballots (both real and fake), and it will always equal the total paper count showing Biden won Maricopa County by 45,469 physical votes.
o Sect. 5.3.1: 23,344 cast from prior voter addresses
o Sect. 5.4.1: 9,041 more [mail-in] ballots returned than were sent out to voters.
o Sect. 5.4.2: 5,295 voters voted in multiple counties
o Sect. 5.5.1: The official totals do not match those who voted by 3432 ballots

2. Voting Machine Findings:
o Sect. 6.4.1: The Election Management System Database was purged, and all tallies were cleared. This violates the law.
o Sect. 6.4.2: A large number of election files had been deleted. This violates the law.
o Sect. 6.4.3: Beginning November 1st, ~50% of the ballot images (263,139) were corrupt and unreadable. These ballots could not be counted/validated.
o Sect. 6.5.1: 21,273 ballot images are missing, substantially less than the total number of paper ballots.

3. EchoMail report on Early Voting Ballot Envelopes:
▪ Identified 34,448 mail-in ballot envelope images being 2 copies, 3 copies and 4 copies (duplicate voters).
▪ 6,545 more envelopes were processed by Maricopa than identified by EchoMail
▪ 1,919 envelope images with blank signature regions
▪ 2,580 envelope images with scribbles in the signature regions

The total questionable ballot count from the audit report (more is listed within the report) is:
• Physical Count discrepancies (top 3) 37,680 3x margin of victory
• Machine discrepancies (top 1) 284,412 28x margin of victory
• EVB Envelopes 45,492 4.5x margin of victory
• Total potential ballot discrepancies 367,584
• Total is 36x the margin of victory

The second page covers the voter canvass:

Liz Harris’s Voter Integrity Project canvassed throughout Maricopa County and published the first report on September 8th, 2021. Within this report, they reported two primary categories of ineligible ballots: lost votes and phantom voters. The findings are incredibly close to the machine discrepancy count.

Within this report, almost 12,000 registered voters had been surveyed by her canvassers. The canvass as conducted generally yields a confidence interval of 1.5% at a confidence level of 95%. Said another way, very similar to voting polls, the accuracy of these results applied to the county as a whole is within +/- 1.5% with 95% certainty, which is the scientific, statistical standard for samples such as this.

Lost Votes: These are American citizens living in Maricopa County who cast a vote, primarily by mail, in the election, yet there is no record of their vote with the county, and it was not counted in the reported vote totals for the election.

Ghost Votes: Mail-in votes were cast under the names of registered voters who were either unknown to the residents of the registration address or who were verified as having moved away before October 2020.

• Lost Votes: 173,104 17x margin of victory
• Ghost Votes: 96,389 9.5x margin of victory
• Total 269,493 27x margin of victory

And their proposed solutions:

A single bill to change the election process to the following would remove all threats to our republic.
• Single Day Voting
• In-person (except for military and severely handicapped)
• Voter ID (Driver’s License, State ID)
• Paper Ballots
• Hand Count (this saves money!!)
• Smaller Precinct
• Results by 9 PM

In my opinion, the most significant finding of all:

If we presented any particular area as the only discrepancy, it still exceeds the margin of the win.

From the "just-can't-make-this-crap-up" file...

A few days ago I posted links to the County's "preliminary review of some of the claims within the Senate's report" (here) and Doug Logan's "response" to their review (here).

What I did not notice, but The Freedom Times did notice, is the DISCLAIMER at the Maricopa County "review" of the audit findings...

Disclaimer

The Maricopa County Recorder’s Office presents the information on this web site as a service to the public. We have tried to ensure that the information contained in this electronic document is accurate. The Recorder’s Office makes no warranty or guarantee concerning the accuracy or reliability of the content at this site or at other sites to which we link. Assessing accuracy and reliability of information is the responsibility of the user.

So even the County admits they cannot be trusted.

Good to know!!!