Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

a reply to: Boadicea
Thanks again for your efforts!
Very much appreciated!

originally posted by: Boadicea
Whew!!! It's done!!!

AZ Audit Update: Paper Analysis COMPLETED – Team Vacating Coliseum – What’s Next!?

Volunteers slammed a box closed and everyone cheered in celebration. We believe this was the last box.

There are only a few volunteers on the floor completing the quality control checks.

Big CONGRATS to them all!!!

As well as much GRATITUDE!!!

Christina Bobb of OAN reported --

On Monday we may see a preliminary report, which details the accuracy of the number of certified ballots. Next, we should expect to see a full forensic report which details of the forensic images and ballot findings.

Upon release of the forensic report, we will know if Attorney General Brnovich needs to get involved and pursue an investigation.

They kind of just throw in this last sentence --

We should know whether the number of ballots is accurate by Monday.

-- but give no source for it. So... hmmmmm... we'll see on Monday!

SUPER!

When should we begin holding our breath waiting for a report? Every time I see that something is finished, there seems to be something else to hold up the report.

originally posted by: Boadicea

"We should know whether the number of ballots is accurate by Monday."
we'll see on Monday!

Yes, I've said it before, but revealing the exact number of ballots, when 2.1 million were claimed, will be a major telling point. I can't wait for Monday.

a reply to: carewemust
A report would be great!
Sunshine is good for everyone!

a reply to: carewemust

When should we begin holding our breath waiting for a report? Every time I see that something is finished, there seems to be something else to hold up the report.

What I've heard most recently is "in a couple of weeks." I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

I don't know how they can technically finalize the report without having the routers and passwords. Unless they issue an interim report based on these initial findings, subject to a second report if/when they gain access to the routers and passwords and those findings.

Someone has to issue some kind of official statement soon, or maybe Dr. Kelli Ward, the AZ GOP Chairwoman. I'm going to watch for something...

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

Yes, I've said it before, but revealing the exact number of ballots, when 2.1 million were claimed, will be a major telling point. I can't wait for Monday.

I'd certainly hope they'd provide a breakdown of which ballots were missing... spoiled ballots? Military ballots? Harvested ballots? Phantom ballots?

That's where we get into the nitty gritty of how and where it was done.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Just for clarification, subpoena is for a limited portion of the router logs, not the routers themselves.

I'll take your word for it, but they had them all boxed up and ready, then changed their mind at the last minute, refusing to even give them access to the images, citing ridiculous false claims of concerns for 'law enforcement information' and 'personal information'.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I'll take your word for it, but they had them all boxed up and ready, then changed their mind at the last minute, refusing to even give them access to the images, citing ridiculous false claims of concerns for 'law enforcement information' and 'personal information'.

This is also my recollection and understanding.

The auditors have offered to go to the County facilities, make a copy under their supervision to ensure they copy only what is necessary, and the County has not responded... well, except for their blanket "We will no longer respond to any questions or requests from the audit."

Lots going on in Georgia! There was another hearing held yesterday, in which both sides are claiming victory, and it took me a while -- and lots of reading and searching -- to find a somewhat comprehensible accounting of it from the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

Judge throws out most of case alleging counterfeit ballots in Fulton

A judge dismissed most of a lawsuit Thursday seeking a deep inspection of Fulton County absentee ballots from last year’s presidential election, a review pursued by voters trying to find fraud.

Superior Court Judge Brian Amero’s ruling jeopardizes the prospects for the ballot inspection to continue, though a plaintiff in the lawsuit said he believes it will soon move forward.

Amero dismissed most claims against the county elections board, the county clerk and the county itself, deciding they couldn’t be sued under Georgia’s sovereign immunity laws, which limit when plaintiffs can turn to the courts for relief.

As I understand it, Amero did allow the plaintiff to proceed with the lawsuit against the individual members of the County Board of Supervisors, however.
Regarding the ballots and ballot inspection ruling:

The judge left in place a previous order requiring the county to produce digital images of absentee ballots and other election records that are public documents under the Georgia Open Records Act.

And that's the part in which both sides are claiming "victory".

An attorney for the Fulton elections board said the ruling prevents the possibility for an in-person review of absentee ballots using high-powered microscopes in the Georgia World Congress Center...“That litigation is finished.”

BUT --

The lead plaintiff in the case, Garland Favorito, said he viewed Amero’s order as a victory.

Favorito plans to submit a ballot inspection plan next week based on the judge’s order in May to unseal absentee ballots, allowing for high-resolution re-scans of ballots and an in-person review.

Oh what tangled webs we weave!!!

As I recall -- and someone correct me if I'm wrong -- way back last month, the plaintiffs were granted access to the physical ballots, and the County got a last-minute injunction, pending the determinations of this hearing on various matters. It was at that hearing that the depositions of the two election workers were also stayed. (I have not read anything further about their case) At that time, the judge said that the matter of inspecting the physical ballots would be put off until after this hearing. The plaintiffs were happy with that, and said then that they would re-address the physical ballots again after this hearing.

I am leaning towards the plaintiffs again being granted access to the physical ballots for inspection. But like everything else, we'll just have to wait and see what happens...

More from Georgia:

This one is bad bad bad for the County:

Georgia Conducting Secret 2020 Ballot Review -- Keeping Plaintiffs in the Dark

In a nutshell, after the depositions from election workers stating they found pristine ballots with no folds and uniform markings (all for Biden), the County sent workers to "check" on these ballots, unlawfully breaking the mandated seals to "inspect" them (but they found nothing wrong of course), and failed to disclose this action to the judge. Naturally, the plaintiffs who already suspect hanky panky, now suspect even more hanky panky. Tsk tsk tsk...

A little more on the matter:

EXCLUSIVE: Garland Favorito Says Georgia Officials Including Raffensperger Concealed Ballot Tampering from Judge – “We Are Discussing What to Do With It” (AUDIO)

This Is Not the First Time Georgia Ballots and Files Were Tampered With – Georgia has a History of Similar Events
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Fulton County Hires CRIMINAL Attorneys to Stop Election Audit
Eye Witness Account Of Probable Criminal Behavior By Happy Face Temp Employees (Financed By Stacey Abrams) During GA 2020 Election Cycle

EXPLOSIVE REPORT! WE CAUGHT THEM AGAIN: New Findings Show Coordination and Collusion Between PA and GA in 2020 Election Steal

Wow -- I had a first tonight!

I decided to do one last check for updates on where the audit goes from here before calling it a night. I didn't find any new information that I haven't already posted... but I did find this thread on page 1 of my search!!! It was the very last entry on the page, but it was there!!!

LOL! I'm rather amused right now

a reply to: Boadicea

Maybe CBS news did get an accurate inside scoop, that there are no significant irregularities to report.

If that is the case, the final report wouldn't need to include an analysis of the Dominion routers. It would primarily give advice for small adjustments ahead of the Nov 2022 mid-term election.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Just for clarification, subpoena is for a limited portion of the router logs, not the routers themselves.

I'll take your word for it, but they had them all boxed up and ready, then changed their mind at the last minute, refusing to even give them access to the images, citing ridiculous false claims of concerns for 'law enforcement information' and 'personal information'.

I could be incorrect on any of the router stuff, am going off memory, and very little accurate information was in the press at the time.

Am only trying to make sense of the bits available.

I also remember county having images of entire routers ready to deliver if ordered.

And wondered why the county would include entire images when only partial logs were requested.

I know a few folks in Arizona state I.T. (different practice areas though), and know that they are perfectly capable of producing only the log segments requested.

My speculation at the time was that the county did this intentionally, to support their (easily avoidable) argument that releasing logs to court would harm law enforcement.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
My speculation at the time was that the county did this intentionally, to support their (easily avoidable) argument that releasing logs to court would harm law enforcement.

Avoidable?

Sorry, there are ZERO legit arguments that examining the routers - even the physical routers - would risk leaking anything - ANYTHING - of concern - unless the concern is it would reveal that the machines were connected to the internet and connections were made, and from where.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Really? So, the President and Vice President aren't elected...

The portion of the Constitution which you cited regarding the appointing of Electors isn't an election, it's an appointment.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
My speculation at the time was that the county did this intentionally, to support their (easily avoidable) argument that releasing logs to court would harm law enforcement.

Avoidable?

Sorry, there are ZERO legit arguments that examining the routers - even the physical routers - would risk leaking anything - ANYTHING - of concern - unless the concern is it would reveal that the machines were connected to the internet and connections were made, and from where.

These are the main county routers, not specific to elections.

I could buy that they were dumb enough to allow sensitive sherriff or court related data to transit the same routers, as they claimed.

But providing only the log portions requested by the court would completely negate any 'potential' issues related to this possible recklessness with network architecture.

I agree that the county is most likely using this absurd argument to delay or prevent the court (and public) from learning that the dominion machines, that we now know DO have network interfaces installed, were actually connected to these routers, with many (or all) ports open to the internet.

The images that ninjas have in the lab probably have everything needed to determine if the machines were connected to a network, and likely even if to these specific routers.

The router logs & configs might be necessary to determine that the dominion machines had an open 'path' to the internet, and who they communicated with, but this also MIGHT be available in the local logs.


Personally, I am much more interested in the actual ballot inspection than the router logs at this point.

If physical ballots actually match the dominion counts, and all appear to be genuine, then need to investigate potential internet connection becomes much less urgent/important.