Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

Hopefully I'm in the right place now. I kept going to the address I have written down, but every time I went inside the shelves were just stocked with boxes of TDS and QDS.

Thanks to everyone keeping on top of things!

originally posted by: Boadicea
Whew!!! It's done!!!

edit on 26-6-2021 by Kaiju666 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit


Personally, I am much more interested in the actual ballot inspection than the router logs at this point.

If physical ballots actually match the dominion counts, and all appear to be genuine, then need to investigate potential internet connection becomes much less urgent/important.

Yes. I think this is the key to all of this, in each state. If fraud was committed, it had to be an organized effort and was likely used in each city that was needed to achieve the goal. (lots of speculation here on my part) The ballots are the paper trail to the digital counts on the machines. They have to match. More importantly, they have to be legit. The idea behind a forensic audit should be geared towards EXACTLY that aspect of it, and will shut down or ignite the claims of fraud.

So if this AZ audit finds irregularities in the paper ballots, we may see that aspect looked at in other states, and for obvious reasons. I'd still love to hear the reason looking closely at that is a bad idea. I mean, other than it's a great way to uncover fraud.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: tanstaafl
"Really? So, the President and Vice President aren't elected..."

The portion of the Constitution which you cited regarding the appointing of Electors isn't an election, it's an appointment.

Ignorance, much?

I see that the triumph of hope over experience remains as strong as ever with you.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
originally posted by: tanstaafl
"Sorry, there are ZERO legit arguments that examining the routers - even the physical routers - would risk leaking anything - ANYTHING - of concern - unless the concern is it would reveal that the machines were connected to the internet and connections were made, and from where."

These are the main county routers, not specific to elections.

I could buy that they were dumb enough to allow sensitive sherriff or court related data to transit the same routers, as they claimed.

But providing only the log portions requested by the court would completely negate any 'potential' issues related to this possible recklessness with network architecture.

Providing full logs is the only way to be sure they didn't withhold more than just what they consider sensitive information, BUT...

That is my point. There IS NO sensitive information in the logs. There is only traffic data - IP addresses, and the fact that something (data packets) transited from one IP to another. Some people consider IP addresses to be sensitive data, but they aren't, really.

Personally, I am much more interested in the actual ballot inspection than the router logs at this point.

I agree, mainly because it is much harder to prove foul play based solely on traffic logs, for two reasons - you don't know for sure what transited, and more problematic, many people just don't understand the information they're looking at.

If physical ballots actually match the dominion counts, and all appear to be genuine, then need to investigate potential internet connection becomes much less urgent/important.

True, and then what matters is where I think a lot of the fraud occurred - the so-called 'adjudication' process. This is where it would be easy to steal votes from one candidate and apply them to another. Hopefully they did a good job during the hand recount and comparing those results to the machine logs (if the logs were still there), which would catch these shenanigans.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
I see that the triumph of hope over experience remains as strong as ever with you.

Interesting comment, too bad it is just gibberish and irrelevant to my pointing out Masons ignorance about the Presidential Electoral process, and the fact that all of the States have settled on the general election as their method for chusing their electors.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: tanstaafl
"Ignorance, much?"

Comical, considering I was discussing elections with the other poster and you interjected about appointments.

What is comical is your ignorance about your ignorance about how all of the States have elected (pun intended) to relegate their process for chusing their Presidential Electors to the popular vote in the general election.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
I see that the triumph of hope over experience remains as strong as ever with you.

Interesting comment, too bad it is just gibberish and irrelevant to my pointing out Masons ignorance about the Presidential Electoral process, and the fact that all of the States have settled on the general election as their method for chusing their electors.

"Gibberish"? How?

originally posted by: tanstaafl
What is comical is your ignorance about your ignorance about how all of the States have elected (pun intended) to relegate their process for chusing their Presidential Electors to the popular vote in the general election.

The appointment of Electors is not an election, it's an appointment which is why the word 'appointment' is used.

a reply to: tanstaafl


I agree with most of that.

But could understand why a sherriff department in a large county might not want certain addresses to be publicly known.

Lame excuse though, since these can be easily removed from the logs before delivery.


I think the real importance related to the routers might be the config files.

IF they have already determined that the dominion machines were connected to the county's internal network, then router configs would determine if they had a clear 'path' to the internet.

After determining whether the ballots match the results though.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Boadicea
Very cool!

LOL! It's probably just because I included "completed" in my search this time, and not many outlets were reporting that the audit was complete. I'll bet it's a one-time wonder!

But it was still fun!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

Maybe CBS news did get an accurate inside scoop, that there are no significant irregularities to report.

Maybe. Nothing would surprise me. I expect nothing and I expect anything at the same time.

If that is the case, the final report wouldn't need to include an analysis of the Dominion routers. It would primarily give advice for small adjustments ahead of the Nov 2022 mid-term election.

Good point. And that would also explain why the Senate has held off on taking any further action regarding the routers and passwords.

It's been said by many that the issues in Arizona pale in comparison to other places, like Georgia and Michigan. It is possible that the cheaters have not yet perfected their cheating skills here yet, but that they were trying.

a reply to: Kaiju666

Hopefully I'm in the right place now.

I do believe you are! We'll see how long it lasts...

I kept going to the address I have written down, but every time I went inside the shelves were just stocked with boxes of TDS and QDS. Thanks to everyone keeping on top of things!

Thanks for paying attention and staying informed!

www.foxnews.com...

"As the Attorney General of Arizona, another state where the DOJ is attempting to intimidate local officials, please know that we stand with you in this fight and will do whatever we can to push back against this blatantly political and unmerited attack," Brnovich wrote in a letter on Friday to Georgia AG Christopher Carr.

They are calling racist. NO, really. Desperation smells like armpit and ass.

a reply to: network dude

"As the Attorney General of Arizona, another state where the DOJ is attempting to intimidate local officials, please know that we stand with you in this fight and will do whatever we can to push back against this blatantly political and unmerited attack," Brnovich wrote in a letter on Friday to Georgia AG Christopher Carr.

I love it!!!

Thanks for posting the link.

a reply to: Boadicea

watch the video for the racist part. It's comical at this point. Poor black folk and their inability to understand the voting process like Caucasians. Must be the melanin. (sarcasm dripping with sarcasm)

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Kaiju666

Hopefully I'm in the right place now.

I do believe you are! We'll see how long it lasts...

I kept going to the address I have written down, but every time I went inside the shelves were just stocked with boxes of TDS and QDS. Thanks to everyone keeping on top of things!

Thanks for paying attention and staying informed!

Aside from just the integrity of elections, I have a life decision interest in these audits. I have family in AZ and am contemplating a possible move from the hellhole I live in, if possible. So AZ would be #1 on the list. I would like to go to somewhere where some of the leadership has some cajones for truth and honesty.

a reply to: Kaiju666

Aside from just the integrity of elections, I have a life decision interest in these audits. I have family in AZ and am contemplating a possible move from the hellhole I live in, if possible. So AZ would be #1 on the list. I would like to go to somewhere where some of the leadership has some cajones for truth and honesty.

I understand... and I can sure see why you'd want to pay attention.

I gotta warn you though, you're not the only one. It seems we've been attracting lots of folks since Covid, and our relatively mild Covid restrictions compared to other states. And that's on top of the usual California refugees.

Maybe the 115°plus temps we had a couple weeks ago will change some minds though!