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The Mark of the COVID

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posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Exodus 22:18
    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
For years I thought that was a spiteful God attacking anyone who opposed Him in any way. It made no sense; Jesus speaks of brotherly love and compassion. So when I discovered Strong's I looked up the words in that verse.

Suffer - aid, assist.
Witch - anyone who practices communion with spirits.
To live - to profit, make a living, prosper.

Rereading it with those definitions it changes from "If you see a witch kill it!" to "don't give money to those who claim arcane knowledge." In today's culture that might be seen as "Stay away from the Psychic Hotline; they're frauds at best and liars at worse."

Quite the difference.

TheRedneck


Is it ironic that you are lecturing the forum on how context impacts translation, right after you carefully picked two paragraphs out of a very elaborate book of prophecy? Looking at the surrounding literature there doesn't seem to be any correlating world events that resemble the rest of your quoted selection from Revelations (which also describes witches burning in a lake of fire, so interpret that as you will).



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Itisnowagain

You are speaking of the science. I am speaking of the social aspects.

It does not matter that the vaccine does not mean one should or should not wear a mask. The masks are useless anyway. The vaccine may be useless or it may be completely effective. It simply does not matter. What matters is how it is used.

A hammer is no better than the arm swinging it. It by itself has no bearing on the accuracy of efficiency of the swing. Yet, look in any tool store and you will see all shapes and sizes of hammers, each one claiming to be better than the other by virtue of things that are irrelevant. And because of such false claims, more people buy that particular hammer expecting it to do what no hammer is capable of doing.

TheRedneck


red most of us are taught that to serve the beast you have to swear a oath to him. They may use the chips,but not in the way you think.Chips will be used to keep track of you,not bind your soul to the beast. They know people will rebel against the right hand and forehead. Its a spiritual mark and not something you can literally stamp. Angels can see spiritual marks as well as we can see colors.



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

I don’t necessarily believe we are in the biblical end times. We are progressing towards what we have created, when the reality becomes something that does not suit our purpose or what we feel our purpose is, we tend to seek religious beliefs to seek refuge and hope that we can be better. Yet the sad truth, in our histOry proves we as a whole lack the courage or fortitude to actually succeed, yet it’s not our fault, for we are born into this world with absolutely no idea why, and or what for, as we spend our lives trying to position ourselves to survive and consume in this system, as we have been taught to. Yet now the structure is changing, the architecture we have been living in now is getting torn down, it is what it is now. If people find solace in biblical scripture, no harm no foul, yet if their is any devil or antichrist on this planet, the correct translation for that identity would be ourselves not just one person..

🥳 happy new year



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids






The people who wrote the scriptures were not the elite. The elite hate the Bible and Christians. Frankly what you see as plausible? Is really just silly. That's all I have to say about it.


I didn't say the people that wrote the Bible were the elite.

I said that the elite are acting on what is written in the Bible.



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: Argyll




I said that the elite are acting on what is written in the Bible.


What's the difference?



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Argyll




I said that the elite are acting on what is written in the Bible.


What's the difference?


prolly since its MAN trying to start Armageddon,that its going to fail. Only God knows the time. Man trying to play God will fail.



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 07:44 PM
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Great thread Redneck and Happy New Year!


In the end they will be judged for what they are doing.

This verse from Revelation 18 has new meaning to me now.

“23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.””

The Greek word used for sorcery is “pharmakeia”.

“This verse implies that Babylon was a city of sorcery. The Greek word for "sorcery" is pharmakeia, from which we derive the word "pharmacy." Most likely, the "sorcery" of end-times Babylon will include drug production and trafficking. “

Full article... pre Covid.

www.bibleref.com...


All the Nations deceived by Pharma!



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

My point is it doesn't matter if the elite decided to use scripture
to some advantage. And then model history to follow prophecy.
The elites themselves have then only helped confirm prophecy.

What does it matter how the prophecies come to pass when they
we're recorded by so called sheep herders two thousand years ago?
How does that discredit what they accurately fore saw becoming
possible? It doesn't!

So there is no difference.



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck


Always enjoy your posts. S+F



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: yuppa

My point is it doesn't matter if the elite decided to use scripture
to some advantage. And then model history to follow prophecy.
The elites themselves have then only helped confirm prophecy.

What does it matter how the prophecies come to pass when they
we're recorded by so called sheep herders two thousand years ago?
How does that discredit what they accurately fore saw becoming
possible? It doesn't!

So there is no difference.


Uh yeah THAT would contradict Gods words is why it is important. If God is wrong and man predicts the date then it would make God look powerless. SO since God is all knowing he will NEVER let man predict the end times.



posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: yuppa


Uh yeah


I'm not even sure we're talking about the same thing. I'm not seeing
this contradiction you speak of. And nothing I said makes God wrong.


SO since God is all knowing he will NEVER let man predict the end times.


It was the hand of a man who wrote the prophecies.
But that's all good I agree! Now how the hell does that relate?
where did I say man predicted anything? What are you talking
about? I'm seriously lost.
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posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 01:22 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

1. The Bible is full of Books of Revelations, but there is no Book of "Revelations".

2. Refer to 1.

I think Redneck has already demonstrated he's well studied.

You, criticize him, but can't even do that right.

Give us some specifics that we can argue with....like Chapter and Verse....








posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 01:44 AM
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Calling it the Chinese Virus is racist.

its not the same as the Spanish Flu and the Spanish Flu is not called the Spanish Flu because it originated there. Just FYI.

Ya old white people.

*am white
edit on 1-1-2021 by Soulece because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: Argyll


What do you consider the more plausible:

The Bible contains prophesies that have/are coming to pass

or

The Bible contains prophesies that only come to pass because people/persons unknown/known in high power engineer those prophesies to come to pass because it's written in the Bible?

The former: The Bible is the inspired Word of God, passed on to us through His prophets. Every word in it is true, as written by those prophets in the context of their understanding. I have personally seen enough prayers answered and enough miracles, as well as heard the voice of God in my life many times more than I would expect to be needed for proof. The fact that I do not have all the answers to why and how this happened is irrelevant; I do not consider myself that arrogant.

Your post itself is simply more evidence of that truth. A lifetime of observing human behavior has shown clearly that people do not strongly oppose things that they do not believe and that do not affect them. Take notice the next time you pass by a traffic accident: most people do not know those involved, do not care about those involved, and thus simply drive by all the while muttering to themselves about how someone is slowing them down. Only those who recognize one of the involved vehicles take note and stop to try and help (first responders notwithstanding; it is their job).

The very fact that you took the time to read the OP, consider it, write out a response, and include a question aimed at trying to convince those discussing this subject that the very premise of Christianity is false is evidence that you have a vested stake in it being false. That is an indication that somewhere deep inside, you yourself know it to be true but you cannot bring yourself to admit it.

Now that I have answered your question, please return the favor and answer one for me:

We live on a planet the exact needed distance from a star of the exact needed size in a universe full of planets and stars that vary from one extreme to another. Our seasons are stable and regular in large part due to the fact that our planet has an oversized moon that stabilizes the orbital tilt. Somehow on this planet hydrocarbons managed to self-associate in ways that allowed them to absorb and use energy, reproduce themselves, even to act as colonies of diverse types for no other reason than to continue operation through offspring. As a result, we have consciousness and imagination that has allowed us to build machines that can travel at speeds unheard of in other animals, design and construct shelters that far exceed any expectation of any other life form on the planet, communicate via quantum mechanical processes we cannot see and can barely understand, and develop complex social structures the likes of which are unheard of in any other creature. Now, which is more likely:

This is just some big sequence of accidents that somehow have managed to defy entropy on an ongoing basis

- or -

An intelligence beyond ours designed things to be as they are?

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 02:37 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck


“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.”

source

There are places on this very planet which are not friendly to humans.
edit on 1/1/2021 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Three points:

I have given a portion of what I see happening in the OP... I actually started writing the entire thing for a thread and abandoned the idea after the Word document reached 26 pages. Just because you do not see additional corroborating evidence, it does not follow there is no more than that contained in one post in one thread in one forum. Take the cover off your computer and look inside some time. Do you see a few billion transistors? No? Well, I guess they are not there and your computer must be a magic box with no connection to physics or science.

No, most of what I posted has been self-censured. My only point was that a prediction I saw back during the summer has taken another step in the direction I saw it taking. Do you dispute the fact that a store employee I know personally has told me that vaccination will remove the requirement on him to wear a face mask? Or do you dispute the possibility of any of the future steps I listed?

Or do you just want to proclaim from the highest mount "GOD IS DEAD!" while ignoring everything else?

Second point:

Nowhere in Relevation does the Bible mention burning witches in a lake of fire. It mentions demons burning in a lake of fire. Demons are not witches: a witch is a human being who communes with the spiritual realm outside of God, while a demon is a fallen angel.

Third point:

My explanation was not even concerning the application of the verses mentioned; it was concerning the translation over time of those initial Hebrew scrolls into English and the differences between the meaning of the verses then and now based on the vernacular. Are you claiming that all those who commune with spirits should be killed on sight?

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: yuppa

You bring up an interesting point. What is "worship"? What defines worship?

I could go on, but my laptop is trying to overheat... maybe a little later.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 03:26 AM
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I had a weird dream, about being chased by nazi vampires again.
I predict there will be a resurgence in vicious totalitarian regimes.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 07:52 AM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
If there is one thing these non-working welfare queen pencil-necks are under estimating is us rednecks.
Bring it.



How many of you Rednecks are wearing mask around today? So many people talk tough and don't do crap, this is why we are in this dam position and most are just saying oh well we will vote Biden out in 4 years lol. After six months of Biden being in the white house there will be Chinese warships in all major harbors of the US.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: Soulece
Calling it the Chinese Virus is racist.

its not the same as the Spanish Flu and the Spanish Flu is not called the Spanish Flu because it originated there. Just FYI.

Ya old white people.

*am white


Racist my ass!!! Nobody gives two craps about their looks or skin color, its the evil asses running their country. The Chinese military are the ones who unleashed it on the whole dam world to save their economy from tanking, so what are we supposed to call it? The Canadian virus?



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