I do not do business with the following people:

originally posted by: Identified
But in the US it seems to be taking hold more and more and not in situations where haggling might be expected.

I negotiate price on anything I can, but it doesn't have to do with my religion or ancestry, it's because I don't like overpaying.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's fine. My point was I've experienced people use their religion as a reason for requesting a lower price or special trratment and I find it exhausting to deal with them. Negotiating is not the same as signing a contract and then coming back with price reduction request based on your religion.

Dunno. Is there a threshold beyond which a populations habits begin aligning with foreign customs?
Is there a tendency, in America, to strive for economic dominance by any means necessary?
Including, but not limited to, emulating a custom to retain market position?
I am peripherally aware that some cultures do not allow the charging of interest, the practice of usery, amongst themselves.
Would this give an edge in the markets?
Add to that the grey area of haggling, it allows for me to make a deal with you, or be compelled to, while not getting my other customers offside because I can claim your a kick ass deal maker.
When in reality, if I don’t launder your money for discount goods you will abduct or murder one of my family.
Easy to do, difficult to prove.
reply to: Identified

a reply to: Identified

I've never had someone ask me for a discount because of their religion.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus


Lucky you. Want to negotiate upfront then that's one thing but they like to wait until the final payment to ask and try to lay on the guilt. Doesn't work with me but it must work with some people if they do it with me.

a reply to: Dalamax

Yeah, I'm thinking it's none of that.

a reply to: Identified

Is that because we have the multi-culti thing going so it's a not-so-wonderful injection of other cultures into this one?

a reply to: ketsuko

Not saying it doesn't exist, but I am not familiar with any culture that attempting to guilt the party based on religious affiliation is the cultural norm that might have injected itself in the local population.

a reply to: Identified

Not saying it was, but haggling in general is a common thing in many cultures, and when you haggle, you use whatever you think you can gain advantage with.

a reply to: ketsuko

Unfortunately for them it isn't an advantage with me no matter whether they think it's "haggling" or not.

a reply to: ICycle2

I don’t do business with people that don’t do business with people with white shoes. So there’s that.....🤪

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: Bluntone22

In my experience the overtly religious tend to use their religion to try to get a better deal and the entire process can be exhausting. If I had a nickel for every time I heard, "We are a Christian organization" or "We are a Christian family could you give us a discount" I would have at least a few dollars. And they rarely take a simple no for an answer. They instead come back with some sob story you are supposed to listen to and I just can't do it.

Add to that the Christian businesses who think you should pay them more because they have "we are a Christian business" on their door front. No thank you.

*And I'm sure there are other religions who do this but in America this is a Christian phenomenon you run into most.

Wow. Where do you live? Sounds like you are in some weird mutant area of social freakishness. I have never once, not once, heard or known of anyone asking for a discount, anywhere, because they are a Christian. Nor have I EVER seen a business with a “We are a Christian business” sign or notice.

Most people are AFRAID of admitting to being a Christian these days, because of the way society has made it ok to ridicule and worse, any Christian.

To be clear, what I’m saying is that I think you’re making that stuff up.

a reply to: KansasGirl

I'm not interested in whether you think I'm making something up.

I guess you live in an area full of poor persecuted Christians who are too afraid to display Christian iconography (Fish, Crosses, Bible Verses) in a business. Sad for you.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: KansasGirl

I'm not interested in whether you think I'm making something up.

I guess you live in an area full of poor persecuted Christians who are too afraid to display Christian iconography (Fish, Crosses, Bible Verses) in a business. Sad for you.

If you have so much disdain for Christians as your posts display, then why is it "sad" for us that we've never experienced this in our areas? Clearly from how you describe it, the people around you use it to demand more money on one side and then to demand discounts on the other (haggling behavior btw). It seems to irritate you to no end, but this is somehow "sad" for us?

I fail to see how.

a reply to: ketsuko


Where did I display disdain for Christians? I think there is some persecution complex going on here. I said I had experienced Christians ask for discounts because they were Christians and had a sob story about why I should give it to them. It directly related to their religion. Don't worry I've had people try to play other cards as well so I fail to see why me adding to a discussion where someone mentioned churches and payments suddenly got your defences up.

As I said before I have lived in foreign countries where you don't buy anything without haggling and I know how to haggle. If you owned a business then I'm sure you don't call it haggling after the fact and with a contract already signed. That's not haggling.

This is actually, if you took half a second to think about it rather than feeling persecuted, is a person attempting to take advantage of the charitable nature that Christians have toward a fellow Christian.

It seems some people are taking offence that I called it out for what it is.

It's sad because this person lives in an area full of people who are scared to voice their opinion. That's never a nice place to live.

a reply to: Identified

I wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard "im a single mom" or " im on a fixed income"...

Church's are notorious for guilting their flock into doing cheap or free labor though.
My friend is a contractor and has been pressured many times to do free work.
I ask if he puts anything in the donation box every week and he says yes. So why are you doing both?

a reply to: Bluntone22

Exactly! I get those single mothers all the time with my hobby/side business. I wonder why they need to buy what I'm selling anyway. It must be really hard dealing with them with a business that someone really needs.

I had one last month with my "real" business that was "I have to buy a new plow truck for my business so could you forget about the final installment?" My business has nothing to do with snow or plows or anything like that. And this man runs a business himself so I appreciate the hussle but come on man!

Good question to ask him regarding the donation box. I hope he thought about it.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: Metallicus

Are you a cook? How do you know someone is vegan?

You just can tell who is. Don't you?

I'll do business with almost anyone, but I'll check their CR and imdb page first.

"I'll catch you next week bro" that won't cut it....oh yeah, no checks, no bitcoin, only credit cards with proper ID.

Rich, pushy people!
Nothing pisses me off more than wealthy people who think that money can buy anything! And that everything has a price! NO! If I have something that isn’t for sale, your money isn’t going to make any difference to me! And calling up & bugging me all the time isn’t going to change my mind! It just makes me more determined, that someday if I do decide to sell, you would be the last person that I would ever sell it to! So there’s that too!

Sorry for the rant! I’ve been dealing with a couple of people for a few months now, that are getting on my nerves. Good customers, otherwise I wouldn’t bite my tongue! One isn’t too bad. The other one is just arrogant to the hilt! I’d love to tell him that I sold it to somebody else for half the price that he offered me! Is that passive/aggressive??? 🤣

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