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originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Flesh699
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Flesh699
U.S. awaits vaccine approval as daily national deaths top 3,000 - Reuters
Apparently, some of the tests were detecting something.
No. Sorry. I've been in the middle of this since the start and caught covid twice.
Your lungs hurt for two weeks.
You're being played.
And yes, academics are idiots. I previously worked under them. They have zero clue what it's like to work, let alone anything remotely real.
Get off your ass and work. It's actually almost sad I'm forced to get my news from various conspiracy sites because the media is so bad at their job.
So conspiracy sites are a source of credible information?
Because it's not just the media, it's governments, and businesses, and hospitals, and charities, and schools, and universities, and lots of people even on ATS have lost someone.
And you've caught COVID-19 - twice. LOL. What happened to immunity?
Once is an accident, twice smacks of carelessness...
originally posted by: Flesh699
Oxford Academic Link
Objective
to review the evidence from studies relating SARS-CoV-2 culture with the results of reverse transcriptase polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) and other variables which may influence the interpretation of the test, such as time from symptom onset
Methods
We searched LitCovid, medRxiv, Google Scholar and the WHO Covid-19 database for Covid-19 to 10 September 2020. We included studies attempting to culture or observe SARS-CoV-2 in specimens with RT-PCR positivity. Studies were dual extracted and the data summarised narratively by specimen type. Where necessary we contacted corresponding authors of included papers for additional information. We assessed quality using a modified QUADAS 2 risk of bias tool.
Results
We included 29 studies reporting attempts at culturing, or observing tissue infection by, SARS-CoV-2 in sputum, nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal, urine, stool, blood and environmental specimens. The quality of the studies was moderate with lack of standardised reporting. The data suggest a relationship between the time from onset of symptom to the timing of the specimen test, cycle threshold (Ct) and symptom severity. Twelve studies reported that Ct values were significantly lower and log copies higher in specimens producing live virus culture. Two studies reported the odds of live virus culture reduced by approximately 33% for every one unit increase in Ct. Six of eight studies reported detectable RNA for longer than 14 days but infectious potential declined after day 8 even among cases with ongoing high viral loads. Four studies reported viral culture from stool specimens.
Conclusion
Complete live viruses are necessary for transmission, not the fragments identified by PCR. Prospective routine testing of reference and culture specimens and their relationship to symptoms, signs and patient co-factors should be used to define the reliability of PCR for assessing infectious potential. Those with high cycle threshold are unlikely to have infectious potential.
There's not much to say. People are getting these PCR tests, the mainstream media is holding the PCR test as the crown jewel, and they're pushing a vaccine over bunk tests.
Logic.
This is it guys. ATS predicted this a decade ago. Should we all be getting a vaccine for a big scary virus with a 99% survival rate? Obama's getting it, why shouldn't we? It's obviously safe and people are dying of the sniffles, I think...maybe....possibly.....some where out there some one is dying.
Thoughts?
originally posted by: one4all
originally posted by: Flesh699
Oxford Academic Link
Objective
to review the evidence from studies relating SARS-CoV-2 culture with the results of reverse transcriptase polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) and other variables which may influence the interpretation of the test, such as time from symptom onset
Methods
We searched LitCovid, medRxiv, Google Scholar and the WHO Covid-19 database for Covid-19 to 10 September 2020. We included studies attempting to culture or observe SARS-CoV-2 in specimens with RT-PCR positivity. Studies were dual extracted and the data summarised narratively by specimen type. Where necessary we contacted corresponding authors of included papers for additional information. We assessed quality using a modified QUADAS 2 risk of bias tool.
Results
We included 29 studies reporting attempts at culturing, or observing tissue infection by, SARS-CoV-2 in sputum, nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal, urine, stool, blood and environmental specimens. The quality of the studies was moderate with lack of standardised reporting. The data suggest a relationship between the time from onset of symptom to the timing of the specimen test, cycle threshold (Ct) and symptom severity. Twelve studies reported that Ct values were significantly lower and log copies higher in specimens producing live virus culture. Two studies reported the odds of live virus culture reduced by approximately 33% for every one unit increase in Ct. Six of eight studies reported detectable RNA for longer than 14 days but infectious potential declined after day 8 even among cases with ongoing high viral loads. Four studies reported viral culture from stool specimens.
Conclusion
Complete live viruses are necessary for transmission, not the fragments identified by PCR. Prospective routine testing of reference and culture specimens and their relationship to symptoms, signs and patient co-factors should be used to define the reliability of PCR for assessing infectious potential. Those with high cycle threshold are unlikely to have infectious potential.
There's not much to say. People are getting these PCR tests, the mainstream media is holding the PCR test as the crown jewel, and they're pushing a vaccine over bunk tests.
Logic.
This is it guys. ATS predicted this a decade ago. Should we all be getting a vaccine for a big scary virus with a 99% survival rate? Obama's getting it, why shouldn't we? It's obviously safe and people are dying of the sniffles, I think...maybe....possibly.....some where out there some one is dying.
Thoughts?
No such thing a a "virus" its a lie.There are different VIRAL SIZED things but no such thing as a "virus".
The same Pleomorphic Bacteria can morph its mass and shape and then present in bacterial/viral /fungal sizes.....they can exist in any one or all areas of the body.....belly-blood-body....this is the Template to be worked with.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The tests are a fraud
The fake numbers are a fraud (3000 per day - that’s a lie)
The lockdowns are a fraud
The whole thing is a fraud
And the lowest of IQ’s accept it as ALL as fact
Hmm, coming from you?
Take a look at the people who attend Trump rallies - his 'base'. And the vocabulary, have you noticed how they can't even use medium sized words concisely. So clever.
And all those liberal academics and alleged "deep state" politicians by comparison.
LOL.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Flesh699
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Flesh699
U.S. awaits vaccine approval as daily national deaths top 3,000 - Reuters
Apparently, some of the tests were detecting something.
No. Sorry. I've been in the middle of this since the start and caught covid twice.
Your lungs hurt for two weeks.
You're being played.
And yes, academics are idiots. I previously worked under them. They have zero clue what it's like to work, let alone anything remotely real.
Get off your ass and work. It's actually almost sad I'm forced to get my news from various conspiracy sites because the media is so bad at their job.
So conspiracy sites are a source of credible information?
Because it's not just the media, it's governments, and businesses, and hospitals, and charities, and schools, and universities, and lots of people even on ATS have lost someone.
And you've caught COVID-19 - twice. LOL. What happened to immunity?
Once is an accident, twice smacks of carelessness...
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The tests are a fraud
The fake numbers are a fraud (3000 per day - that’s a lie)
The lockdowns are a fraud
The whole thing is a fraud
And the lowest of IQ’s accept it as ALL as fact
Hmm, coming from you?
Take a look at the people who attend Trump rallies - his 'base'. And the vocabulary, have you noticed how they can't even use medium sized words concisely. So clever.
And all those liberal academics and alleged "deep state" politicians by comparison.
LOL.
If you think the key to life is having a purty mouth, you best stay out of Georgia.
originally posted by: one4all
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Flesh699
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Flesh699
U.S. awaits vaccine approval as daily national deaths top 3,000 - Reuters
Apparently, some of the tests were detecting something.
No. Sorry. I've been in the middle of this since the start and caught covid twice.
Your lungs hurt for two weeks.
You're being played.
And yes, academics are idiots. I previously worked under them. They have zero clue what it's like to work, let alone anything remotely real.
Get off your ass and work. It's actually almost sad I'm forced to get my news from various conspiracy sites because the media is so bad at their job.
So conspiracy sites are a source of credible information?
Because it's not just the media, it's governments, and businesses, and hospitals, and charities, and schools, and universities, and lots of people even on ATS have lost someone.
And you've caught COVID-19 - twice. LOL. What happened to immunity?
Once is an accident, twice smacks of carelessness...
No such thing as immunity as you have been taught.....its a bug....if you dont eat food with bugs in it you dont get sick....
Its a Pleomorphic gut bacteria that can morph into smaller sizes such as viral and fungal.
We can catch it repeatedly in its living viral size or we can ingest it again in its bacterial form along with the parasites its symbiotic with.
Its extremely easy to kill in any and all forms if you know what it is and what its doing to you.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The tests are a fraud
The fake numbers are a fraud (3000 per day - that’s a lie)
The lockdowns are a fraud
The whole thing is a fraud
And the lowest of IQ’s accept it as ALL as fact
Hmm, coming from you?
Take a look at the people who attend Trump rallies - his 'base'. And the vocabulary, have you noticed how they can't even use medium sized words concisely. So clever.
And all those liberal academics and alleged "deep state" politicians by comparison.
LOL.
If you think the key to life is having a purty mouth, you best stay out of Georgia.
I will stay out of America. I promise.
Besides, they have a significant epidemic going on there, with more numbers of those confirmed as infected, and a greater number of dead from it, than any other country. The last place I'd want to go at the moment.
originally posted by: Flesh699
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The tests are a fraud
The fake numbers are a fraud (3000 per day - that’s a lie)
The lockdowns are a fraud
The whole thing is a fraud
And the lowest of IQ’s accept it as ALL as fact
Hmm, coming from you?
Take a look at the people who attend Trump rallies - his 'base'. And the vocabulary, have you noticed how they can't even use medium sized words concisely. So clever.
And all those liberal academics and alleged "deep state" politicians by comparison.
LOL.
If you think the key to life is having a purty mouth, you best stay out of Georgia.
I will stay out of America. I promise.
Besides, they have a significant epidemic going on there, with more numbers of those confirmed as infected, and a greater number of dead from it, than any other country. The last place I'd want to go at the moment.
We really don't have high death numbers. I guarantee you that every person on these boards pleading for people to go say sorry to families with loved ones who have died from covid don't actually know of a person who has died from it.
Last week a nursing home with consistent "outbreaks" was raided in my town by the feds for an undisclosed reason. My sister is a nurse. She sees hundreds of people a week. She's not seen one person die of covid. Covid is what turned her from a book worm to a "conspiracy theorist" because she knows it's nothing more than the flu, at least in most cases. And when they were claiming hospitals were overrun she was sent home because no one could or would show up to the hospital.
There's two different worlds here, one on the Tell A Vision and one people are actually living in, and they seem to be highly disconnected.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
“Academics are idiots”
That’s an understatement
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Not sure if posted here but it is being censored a ton....this is Kary Mullis....the Nobel Prize Winner and PCR Test Inventor....
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Flesh699
Personally? 2.
Probably not enough for you though.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The tests are a fraud
The fake numbers are a fraud (3000 per day - that’s a lie)
The lockdowns are a fraud
The whole thing is a fraud
And the lowest of IQ’s accept it as ALL as fact
Hmm, coming from you?
Take a look at the people who attend Trump rallies - his 'base'. And the vocabulary, have you noticed how they can't even use medium sized words concisely. So clever.
And all those liberal academics and alleged "deep state" politicians by comparison.
LOL.