Georgia Senate committee hearing

originally posted by: carewemust
Twitter is inadvertently confirming election fraud.

mobile.twitter.com...

Twitter is the enemy of the people remember?

Got anything from Parler?

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

No. I think that paper ballots, counted in the old way, by hand is the way to go. And yes, I recognize the possible avenues of fraud though our modern systems and machinery. One republican and one democrat sitting side by side inspecting each and very ballot together. Yeah, I know great cost, but still better than what is going on now.

That said though, the biggest screamer about election fraud in this nation is Donald Trump. He has laid out the ''truth'' that the only way he could lose in 16 and 20 is if there was fraud, if he was cheated. But in 16 he won and the cry of cheating dropped away. Right? Right.

And what has he done in these four years to make sure that our election process was secured. Not a damn thing. Except for this last year his cries of possible fraud began to emerge from him once again. The only way I can lose is fraud...yet he did nothing.

He might have dug out that old bill by Gabbard and pushed it forward in congress. Did he? Not on your life. Did he do anything else except cry about how there would be fraud against him? Not a damn thing.

But now? Now he is calling fraud again. Because he won? Ha, nope, because he lost. And only now is he and his ''fraud squad'' looking for any little scrap of evidence to secure him the win.

So IF there was massive fraud, there is only one person to blame, the President of the United States who according to his own testimony before the entire nation pointed out that this was a huge threat to our Democracy,,,,FOUR YEARS AGO...
So IF,it falls on him entirely.

Let me sum up my position here. If there was ''massive fraud'' as Trump predicted, he did nothing to correct the corrupt system that allowed it and he should be rejected by honest voters across the board for his incompetency.

On the other hand, if, Trump is a massive fraud himself to whom many Americans have tied their horses then it is no surprise at all that he has failed to secure or election structure along with all the other things he has failed at.
His Cyber security chief said it was secure and his Attorney General has said he has seen no evidence of massive fraud.

So, while you and other ground swell supporters may still back him, he has completely failed to govern in a manner that has overcome the obstacle that he pledged to defeat.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Forty one of forty two court cases have found that there is zero evidence for "massive fraud."

What more needs to be said?

a reply to: carewemust


Yes, the SC that has now been stacked with Trump appointees. Fine, it is what it is. So, just on speculation now, barring the possibility that this will go to the SC, and the possiblity that even his own appointed court says, no Trumpy, pack your bags, how do you think Trump supporters will take that. More fraud from the SC?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Why do you continue to ignore the fact that bush lost everycourtcase up to the supreme court?

You can claim trump lost all day long but until it gets to the scotus noone knows anything.

So sit back grab a brew of your choosing and wait like the rest of us.

originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
a reply to: Gryphon66

Why do you continue to ignore the fact that bush lost everycourtcase up to the supreme court?

You can claim trump lost all day long but until it gets to the scotus noone knows anything.

So sit back grab a brew of your choosing and wait like the rest of us.

I'm not ignoring anything. Bush v. Gore is not relevant here.

I know it gives Trump supporters hope.

I'm not claiming Trump has lost, he has lost. It's a fact.

BTW, if you're interested in the vast differences between 2000 and 2020 ... I can explain it to you, but, it would be off topic here.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: interupt42

We don't know WHAT that activity that was going on was, we only have that woman's suppositions and accusations.

AND the Video. I would say its enough to warrant further investigation so we can KNOW WHAT activity was going on.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Where's the reverifications and the audit trail results ?

Now ya see it now ya don't 📬

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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: putnam6

One wonders why they held a press conference rather than filing the matter in court, no?

We'll see. Maybe THIS time it will be different.

In this situation, you take what you can get. If nothing else turns up the heat a notch on Kemp and others and maybe the judicial system to listen to the case. I still believe the lower courts aren't stupid why even touch this extremely hot potato when your decision will just be appealed regardless. Plus as mentioned before Rudy keeps hinting the legislature has the power if they believe there was substantial fraud to remedy the situation. Again I'm not a fan of that angle, but it's been mentioned in each one of these hearings with each state's legislature. Got to check to see what they can and can not do, and I'd imagine each state is likely different.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Well from the video and the ladies testimony you see activity that shouldn't be going on after they told everyone to leave .

But none of that will matter if rudy tooty doesn;t get it to court versus these public meetings.

Actually, Rudy keeps on hinting in each hearing that the state legislature has the power if they believe an election fraudulent, to remedy the situation. Personally I'm opposed to that angle but it seems that might be his shotgun attack at this.

I have seen him hinting that but apparently they aren't taking the bait or the hint.

originally posted by: carewemust
Twitter is inadvertently confirming election fraud.

mobile.twitter.com...

Looks like they're deflecting away from their own deflections already to make sure as many people as possible get side tracked 🚨

a reply to: Gryphon66

Vast differences indeed like election laws being ignored or flat out broken by one side and one side only.
Can you guess which side barred poll watchers from viewing?

Why would they do that unless there were things happening that are against the law.

It's the little questions like this that lead you to the bigger questions.

Why would democrats break election laws unless they were actually doing illegal things besides breaking election laws.

originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
a reply to: Gryphon66

Why do you continue to ignore the fact that bush lost everycourtcase up to the supreme court?

You can claim trump lost all day long but until it gets to the scotus noone knows anything.

So sit back grab a brew of your choosing and wait like the rest of us.

Because Bush's cases were totally different. There, there were a set of facts on which everyone agreed. The election was within hundreds of votes and recounts were on-going. The question remaining was a legal one--whether the recounts could legally continue. That is exactly the type of question that the Supreme Court is meant to answer--a narrow and discrete dispute as to the requirements of the law.

What people here are going on about is whether or not fraud occurred. This is a factual, not legal, question. The Supreme Court rarely ever considers factual matters. Facts are determined by trial courts; the law is decided by appellate courts. There are very few (if any) current lawsuits that have a chance in hell of making it to the Supreme Court, and none even allege fraud.

a reply to: putnam6

The judicial system has listened. WIth one exception each case thus far (41 of 42 I believe) has been rejected.

The Georgia General Assembly does not have the power to reject the results of the election.

What Trump et. al are asking for is illegal. Bottom line.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
Twitter is inadvertently confirming election fraud.

mobile.twitter.com...

Looks like they're deflecting away from their own deflections already to make sure as many people as possible get side tracked 🚨

How about this one that Twitter is blocking today...

This is a live stream of the Carson City Nevada District Court where Trump lawyers are presenting evidence right now.

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a reply to: johnnylaw16

It was also only one State's results that were in question.

How many are Trump et. al challenging? Six or seven?

originally posted by: johnnylaw16
There are very few (if any) current lawsuits that have a chance in hell of making it to the Supreme Court, and none even allege fraud.

None allege fraud. I'm not sure how the Trump faithful keep missing that fact.

When pressed, in case after case, the lawyers admit that they have no evidence of voter fraud.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Only 3 or 4 of those are actually Trump, all the rest are not affiliated with him.

Would you rule out say, Rape as a wide spread problem because most people dont prosecute or even report the cases? How about the fraudulent accusations added there as well burying the actual convictions.

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: Gryphon66

Only 3 or 4 of those are actually Trump, all the rest are not affiliated with him.

Would you rule out say, Rape as a wide spread problem because most people dont prosecute or even report the cases? How about the fraudulent accusations added there as well burying the actual convictions.

I suggest you look again ... Trump, the Trump campaign, State GOPs and affiliated claimants, as I have called them "Trump, et. al."

As to the later ... you're vaguely gish galloping. If you have something factual to say, post it.