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The head of the FEC just called this election illegitimate

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posted on Nov, 12 2020 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

I am no Trump supporter but I do support a fair election and your argument sounds pretty fkkn stupid.
How would you like the man to say it? If you go around the net searching for real articles on the fraud, there are 1000's.
This is not an isolated issue full of "what if's" or "well possibly."



posted on Nov, 12 2020 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

If you said, "I believe the sky is red." Then followed it with, " if the sky is red, the election is illegitimate...". You would be suggesting that you believed the election was illegitimate. The FEC official is stating an opinion, all be it a well sourced opinion. Why would you want to throw shade by playing a word game? Typical liberal. I expect you will find my typos immediately and accuse me of being an idiot



posted on Nov, 12 2020 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: antmax21
This is simple.
These idiot traitors were set up. There are people with good hearts who were allowed to watch the fraud and are now coming forward. One comes forward and the flood gates open. The IT people working at Dominion will keep coming. The photos, the affidavits, the court wins. While this occurs, the current administration will make "deals" with these traitors to have them prick their fingers on a rose and bleed out or roses for a funeral. As you are aware, roses will be coming up in the media soon. It will be a signal. That said, the ending will be used to either have Biden concede or to add more fuel to the America fire, allow the House to vote. When a vote goes to the house, if you do not know, each state gets 1 vote. At this time, I believe 39 are republican and 11 are democratic. As long as Trump does not concede, he will become president. This election is far too tampered with to even consider legit. And one thing we will know that if Trump does concede, he is an enemy too.


It's either time to come clean and save yourself or go down with the ship, the writing is on the wall. The smart one's will come clean and get some leniency, the others will go down hard.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 06:30 AM
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Also right side broadcasting network. (RSBN). Is good.

a reply to: CriticalStinker



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 07:24 AM
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Bullshirt affidavits haven't been taken to courts. Because the goal of their writers is to leech money off of people rather than "overturning" any states. In most of the court cases(basically all of Trumps lawsuits have failed so far). There are far more votes for Biden than any lawsuit, or even all of them, have sought to challenge, No actual journalist has paid 2 bits to the supposed "IT techs from Dominion" because either the electronic errors were caught, and thus aren't fraud, or the Errors were made up by people, See earlier in my post for why.
Neither SCOTUS nor the house is going to get involved, atleast, not in the way you want. Trump has lost. Not to Cheating, but by people who don't live in your media bubble outvoting those who do.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Manitou
Bullshirt affidavits haven't been taken to courts. Because the goal of their writers is to leech money off of people rather than "overturning" any states. In most of the court cases(basically all of Trumps lawsuits have failed so far). There are far more votes for Biden than any lawsuit, or even all of them, have sought to challenge, No actual journalist has paid 2 bits to the supposed "IT techs from Dominion" because either the electronic errors were caught, and thus aren't fraud, or the Errors were made up by people, See earlier in my post for why.
Neither SCOTUS nor the house is going to get involved, atleast, not in the way you want. Trump has lost. Not to Cheating, but by people who don't live in your media bubble outvoting those who do.


That's pretty rich, coming from somebody describing a cross section of the voting public that were manipulated, lied to (Hunter Biden laptop?? No such thing, doesn't exist), cajoled and brow beaten into voting for Biden. Media bubble?? LOFL you're speaking to, and speaking in reference to, the chunk of the populace that DO NOT exist in your "media bubble".



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Ignoring all the sideshow and all that....this all has to be wrapped up by december 16th (if i recall correctly). Is there a chance of this happening?

And if not, what happens?


I guess the election laws don't even mention legitimacy.
And I believe you're right. As for sidebar precedent...

After Katherine Harris said "I declare the winner
of the 2000 Presidential Election..." all she was
doing was certifying Florida. But good diva optics..
I read Justice Stevens' dissent though to my shame...
and the opinion didn't even involve legitimacy.

But yeah, Tex-- good, bad or ugly if the individual State
A.G.s certify the votes from dyed purple endrogenous
fiddler crabs, much less legal votes, we all lose BY the
16th. Whether we wanted Bush, Gore, or Hyman Roth.

EDIT:: All the hair splitting around here... it's as if you
EXPECTED the worst candidate the Democrats could
throw out there to actually campaign? And better yet the
one running mate that still showed up at ALL on the leader
board with like 2% of the primary tot?
I'm pretty sure that half, or better of that $1.4 Bil campaign
chest was for the 600 retainers and lunch money; and to
defend lawless CRAP rather than run a legitimate race.

It's also getting to look like a really good shooting war is going
to get started by snotty rich kids wagging plastic hardware, AGAIN.

edit on 13-11-2020 by derfreebie because: Yup. Lung cancer is starting to look like an attractive alternative...



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 08:28 AM
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He's another Trump appointee squealing for daddy Trump. This really is pathetic. You'll have to do much better than this.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: tc2290
He's another Trump appointee squealing for daddy Trump. This really is pathetic. You'll have to do much better than this.


Yea we only believe it when Trump's worst enemies come out in support if Trump.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 08:43 AM
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So voter fraud is taking place in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Ohio and ect.

But I don't live in any of those states. Why should I care how corrupt their local and state governments may be? Shouldn't that be an issue for the citizens of those states?

And they do have a remedy; they can vote out their corrupt government during the next set of elections.

Why the need for all the disruption now that's not going anywhere?
edit on 13-11-2020 by DanDanDat because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: opethPA
The FEC official is stating an opinion, all be it a well sourced opinion. Why would you want to throw shade by playing a word game? Typical liberal. I expect you will find my typos immediately and accuse me of being an idiot



Actually I could care less about your typos and I am not a liberal at all I just like to deal with reality and facts .

Like my initial argument that this thread title is inaccurate as it's stating a fact based on opinion which is just like this quote I took from your post "The FEC official is stating an opinion"



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: DanDanDat
So voter fraud is taking place in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Ohio and ect.

But I don't live in any of those states. Why should I care how corrupt their local and state governments may be? Shouldn't that be an issue for the citizens of those states?

And they do have a remedy; they can vote out their corrupt government during the next set of elections.

Why the need for all the disruption now that's not going anywhere?
In a federal election it matters. Do you think that if massive voter fraud happens in multiple states with the help and even direction of the dnc machine we should all just go” oh let’s just all let Biden and the media declare he’s the winner so everyone can go home and have a pretend unity...” I don’t think so!!!!!
edit on 13-11-2020 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan
Michigan... what is the public sentiment there regarding the elections? Are people sending letters and messages to their representatives to stand up and defend the election integrity?
Is John James still fighting for his senate seat?
I saw him first time in 2018 and was excited about his candidacy. He is awesome! I live in TX and in general don’t think is OK to contribute to campaigns other than for yours representatives but I had to contribute to his campaign, I hope he wins!!! God’s speed to him


edit on 13-11-2020 by MariaT because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 12:22 PM
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Totally disagree. This election is totally illegitimate. Anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves. As I stated earlier, if Trump does not concede, even after the electors vote, it goes to the house. Trump would win in the house or another republican representative. There is no way in hell Joe Biden won this election without fraud. If you are relying on the mainstream media or democratic voting establishment traitors, you are illogical.

Logically stated, there is no way in hell Joe Biden got more votes than Barack Obama. No way in hell Joe Biden has garnered the most votes in the history of American candidates. This man could not get 100 people to a rally, even in vehicles. This is a farce and if we are pushed to the brink of losing our constitution even more, there is only one remedy: revolution.

a reply to: Manitou



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 12:47 PM
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The mainstream media has known all along about the fraud but you have to think of it in terms of, and I am sorry but it's simply true to some extent whether you are part of it or if you're thankfully a rational reasonable human being with the capacity for critical thinking, but you must think of it in terms of stupid moronic low IQ barely functioning simpleton at best, moron by average Millennials.

Sorry again but it's no surprise to anyone here I'm sure when I say that critical thinking has taken the biggest hit in schools. I can't even say that most students nowadays are capable of reaching the very first step in Bloom's Taxonomy. Instead, they are on the steps to Bloom's basement which go from REPEAT AFTER ME, to BLINDLY ESPOUSE, to SCRUTINY SCHMUTINY, to OBSESS OVER AS YOU FORAGE FOR BRAINS, and end at the bottom with WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS SAY RACIST!/FASCIST! They make up like 30 plus percent of us and we know that THAT generation...you know, the one which includes the college crowd, suburban upper middle class victims of 2020's outrageous oppression, the generation that needs safe rooms when someone thinks a different thought than the thought they think followed by several days off work or school when the initial trauma and shock subside with complimentary provided counselors on hand...THAT generation...we know that words and phrases like 'fickle, gullible, uninformed, clueless, programmed emotional response to unfamiliar buzz words and no no topics' succeed in painting an accurate picture of (a huge number of) them just as much as calling listening to a cat in heat responding to a violin played without rosin, in a full nursery where it's just before nap time, in a town where a hydrogen bomb is being tested and you're at ground zero, a 'rough' day :: nervously tugging out collar in trademark Dangerfieldian manner::

They make it clear if you look anywhere on Twitter or YouTube, that they have no idea what inauguration day is even having lived through about 20 of them as they are furious now more than anything about the fact Trump has not handed over power peacefully so Biden can begin fixing everything. They haven't a clue that mega conglomerates who happen to own a network and broadcast shows including the word NEWS in the title, aren't the ones who decide who officially won an election. Heck, I'll show you the video if anyone cares, but just this am I saw a comment on a popular Millennial channel which along with 128 responses, was about 30 arguing about what might happen in each the Congress and the Senate and the powers one has vs the other, only after 31 did someone say they believed the terms were the Congress, the Senate, and the Capitol as we had three branches of government...another 30 till they decided it's actually Senate, Congress and JUDICIAL. And the reality that they have just about every single bit of it so so so wrong in so many ways, as of 128 replies had not been cleared up by anyone and we are talking about 129 people...SITTING ON THE INTERNET, UNABLE TO FIGURE OUT that Congress is the Ho...actually not wasting my 'breath'.

But these oh so capable citizens who yes, actually have the audacity to vote knowing nothing literally nothing at all about government, not campaign finance reform, not euthanasia, not states rights, not the deficit, not medicare, not privatization of social security, not constitutionalism, not lobbying, not animal rights, not net neutrality or surveillance...politics is reduced simply to left means you like black people and right means deep down you think black people are totes yucky. And because they believe everything including that the KKK is once again exploding in membership and on each corner, that as the House dems, after a survey, determined the number one danger the HS faces is right wing nationalist violence and terrorism and because of this, decided to fight back by making their Facebook picture a black square then going town to town burning down low income neighborhoods and destroying statues of males who lived around 1860, black or white, abolitionist, former slave, or...person...(don't ask me...were talking people including the guy who attacked the couple drinking milk because milk is not just 'racist' but 'OBNOXIOUSLY IN YOUR FACE' racist since white people who drink their milk 'all obviously' know damn well what they're saying to black people. This is simply an election whose votes are being tabulated, the votes and not any old disqualified paper, just real votes to arrive at a winner. Like any other election on Earth.

If that winner is Trump, they already were dumb enough to think Trump had eaten the first week of Bidens rightful term, but the media have reinforced that so if he wins, it won't be like last time where they're devastated he won, to them the fact will be that by squatting beyond his term, blocking Biden with a WH barricade, as he sent out cronies to cook up false fraud evidence, forced the TV news shows (who are the elections official licensed officiators remember) to concede to the loser making him the winner by some threat or dirty political moves he has in his role as POTUS that the true president simply cannot fight at all.

This will be so much more than 2016 and if u think you'd seen the pinnacle of childish, bitter, hypocritical, immature, denial, pitiable pathetic tantrums, and lately burning looting and murder...BLM...you ain't seen nothing yet. We all saw the flyers going around the net. This time the only response is burning cities to the ground if they must rebuild from scratch and killing any conservatives they can possibly kill as it is a necessary and benevolent deed if they ever want to end the rampant racism that plagues the world in so much that even MICROAGRESSIONS taint every word and action a non POC does.

The civil war may have been one of the last, but it was a CIVIL civil war. And that killed OMG...SO MANY. Imagine now beyond the common courtesy of gentlemen fighting on a battlefield...beyond more chaotic fields...even years and years after more guerilla warfare became the norm. It would be a war in which anyone, regardless of side, can be a casualty as they show no hesitation shooting a 10 yr old girl as she walks hand in hand with Daddy, a young man for having a res hat on in Oregon, WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DRANK MILK IN PUBLIC and we know damn well what that means...it will be hell on Earth as one totally unsuspecting and non-belligerent, 'belligerent' is killed for the glory of the side who thinks black people are totally fine and hello, have a gay friend and need to cleanse the world of anyone who fails to rise to the heights of their self-perceived moral ground and ugliestnpart, it would all be tragedy in the name of morality caused by those who in action, logic, and quite obviously don't care one bit about anyone else and destroyed America simply because feigning offense on behalf of another's kind in their absence or because in reality they see that kind as incompetent and weak, feigning tolerance makes them feel and look good and get more thumbs up than you got. Thank you Social Media for the narcissist's dystopia you caused.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

And don't worry if there are any OF THAT type of Millennial here...about that last part...I too was quite shocked when I learned they hired Francine Patterson and Jane Goodall to train our standing army. So you're not alone.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Annee

For me, after witnessing the 2000 fiasco with all its hanging chads and the stupidity that ensued, nothing would surprise me.

I think at this point, we are going to have some real hard years ahead of us either way. Although announcing Trump as the winner will likely see our cities burned (although i don't think the cities in Texas will, as our state handles it differently).

"May you live in interesting times" is supposed to be an insult. It looks like we are going to see why.


Oh, yeah. The Diebold machines.

An Australian company had a machine that gave back a paper ballot/receipt and was about half the price. For some reason it was rejected. There’s lots going on with Diebold.

I agree — if this gets reversed — Holy Hell will be upon all of us.

It would be unwise.









I blame the media, they should have waited. There's an ulterior motive to not waiting though, and it's to cause a greater divide than we already face. You know, Annee, you're not a bad person to talk to when you're not blinded by your emotions. A lot of people who support Trump don't care for him personally, about like they care for any arrogant billionaire, but he didn't run on his personality, he ran on policies and was elected for that. Being a Centrist, you should appreciate quite a few things he did.


I am unapologetically, 100%, anti-Trump — the person. It boggles my mind that his cult can’t see through his facade.

I am not into any conspiracy regarding this election.

Emotions? My daughter calls me the Ice Queen. I don’t know where you get emotions from any of my posts.

It’s usually the poster transferring their own emotions into my statements.

I don’t agree with his policies.


You can be anti-Trump, the person, and still support the great things he did for this country.

You're telling me you didn't agree with the economical boost that came with reversing the last administration's executive orders? The lower taxes that were passed for everyone who had a job? The small businesses that benefitted greatly from it and were able to give raises and bonuses to their employees because of it? The criminal justice reform that has finally started a foot in the right direction? The USMCA? Making other countries involved in the UN pay at least 2% of what they owe so we wouldn't have to foot the extra hundreds of billions it took? The increase in tariffs to other countries so that our jobs would start coming back to the USA which in turn brought more opportunity to minority groups and women and led to their lowest unemployment rates ever? Banning travel from China a week after the coronavirus got here? Banning travel from terrorist countries? That's just off the top of my head without searching for the rest.

What is it about these policies that you don't agree with?

And, last thing, we're not a cult.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: CriticalStinker

She's only 16, there, Joe Biden...


Lol, I have no clue who she is.

If that's the case, I got got this time around. They need to stop putting hormones in food so this doesn't happen to me again.

Would have guessed like 22.

I deserve any and all jokes that come my way if that's a thing and you aren't ribbing me.


Sh*t man, I totally forgot to go back and edit my comment, I was just kidding




posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

There's video evidence of republican poll watchers not being allowed inside ballot counting stations, and there is video evidence of those who were let in being forced to stand 50 to 100 feet away. There are eye witnesses coming forward and admitting that ballots were postmarked the day after the election so they would be counted. There is evidence of all of this.



posted on Nov, 13 2020 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: opethPA

There's video evidence of republican poll watchers not being allowed inside ballot counting stations, and there is video evidence of those who were let in being forced to stand 50 to 100 feet away. There are eye witnesses coming forward and admitting that ballots were postmarked the day after the election so they would be counted. There is evidence of all of this.


Great . Plenty of threads around all that.

None of that changes the fact that this thread has a title that isn't accurate based on the source given in the OP.



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