The head of the FEC just called this election illegitimate

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Ok...so now what?

Does he have any authority to do anything about it or is he just in a token position flapping his gums?

This is what the latest BOOM is about.

There is no legitimate reason at all for observers to be denied access to the ballot counting. Ipso facto, the ballot counting must be “illegitimate.“ That announcement isn’t coming from just anyone. Trey Trainor isn’t just a state election official, he’s a federal one.

It’s about the observers.

Yes, the man in the video is in fact Trey Trainor ❗

He's citing real things not MSM bullshyst fantasies ❗

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

They can run but not hide

Actually yes ..yes they can hide .

We still have not heard a word from Hunter Biden.

My friends of ATS. I don't know what is going on but it seems almost every one is so gullible and has not sense of humor.

I see jokes made and people get all pissed off over idiotic things.

Also over the past few days you guys are falling for every single article that goes your way. I am on your side but it's getting a little ridiculous.

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

a reply to: Annee

Let me ask you, since you aren't just another of the right wingers here....if it is proven that enough shady crap happened to sway the actual vote, and Trump should have won...what would you say about it?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Let me ask you, since you aren't just another of the right wingers here....if it is proven that enough shady crap happened to sway the actual vote, and Trump should have won...what would you say about it?

a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

This is such a blatant joke. To suggest widespread fraud with literally only a handful of possibly questionable behavior and nothing concrete is willful ignorance or outright deception. It makes no sense. Fact is Trump lost by close to 5 million votes. Republicans have not won an a popular vote since 1988. You who claim fraud just are unhappy with the fact that this country leans democrat. So why didn't the democrats steal it for Hillary too? In fact in 2016, they lost the house and senate too. And this year we are supposed to believe that democrats stole the election for Joe but lost house seats. Trump had a chance, he did a poor job and now the American people overwhelmingly want to give Joe a chance. If somehow Trump is in power after Jan 20, that is called a coup and we will be living under a dictatorship.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Trey Trainor is a Trump appointee , make of that what you will.

James E. "Trey" Trainor III was nominated by President Donald J. Trump and confirmed by the United States Senate on May 19, 2020. He was appointed to a term ending April 30, 2023.
www.fec.gov...

what a stroke of luck! A guy who isn't bought and paid for looking out for the nation. I bet he's not quite able to sneak any shifty policy decisions past anyone. Folks will be watching. Hopefully all of them. I'd hate for real crimes to be found, then dismissed out of hand like has happened in the recent past.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

Oh noes, a bunch of people on a conspiracy forum aren't watching the echo chambers...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Let me ask you, since you aren't just another of the right wingers here....if it is proven that enough shady crap happened to sway the actual vote, and Trump should have won...what would you say about it?

I like the girl in gif. She seems fun.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

now I know you are smarter than that.

Where might you hear about anything "pro Trump"? CNN? MSNBC? Sure a good portion of it will be sensationalized garbage, but some of it won't. And that "some of it" won't see the light of day without outlets like those.

Or should we be trusting the MSM that has proven to be a tiny bit less than balanced?

originally posted by: ras321
This is such a blatant joke. To suggest widespread fraud with literally only a handful of possibly questionable behavior and nothing concrete is willful ignorance or outright deception. It makes no sense. Fact is Trump lost by close to 5 million votes. Republicans have not won an a popular vote since 1988. You who claim fraud just are unhappy with the fact that this country leans democrat. So why didn't the democrats steal it for Hillary too? In fact in 2016, they lost the house and senate too. And this year we are supposed to believe that democrats stole the election for Joe but lost house seats. Trump had a chance, he did a poor job and now the American people overwhelmingly want to give Joe a chance. If somehow Trump is in power after Jan 20, that is called a coup and we will be living under a dictatorship.

One state (California) is the source of the 5M difference.

W won the popular vote in 2004. Not that the popular vote matters anyway.

The Democrats thought the polls were correct in 2016. They were wrong.

Yes, it's odd that record voter participation didn't express itself down ballot, huh?

California overwhelmingly wants to give Joe a chance, apparently. The other 49 state populations have not expressed that level of enthusiasm. [Edit: Well... maybe Oklahoma for Trump]

If Trump is President after inauguration, we'll know that the election was decided in the courts or state legislatures or Congress. Time will tell.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

the media establishment is horrendously biased and has been for years. most of us on the right stopped paying attention to them years ago.
Fox seems mixed. I watched Tucker Carlson and he is adamant that there was fraud.
very sad how our media is ignoring one of the biggest news stories of our lifetime.
Democracy dies in the dark.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Annee

Let me ask you, since you aren't just another of the right wingers here....if it is proven that enough shady crap happened to sway the actual vote, and Trump should have won...what would you say about it?

I’m actually pretty centrist — I’m just completely anti-Trump because of who he is as a person.

The government is very cautious on enfranchising voters (or should be). It’s despicable some of the crap that’s gone on this election (not taking sides).

There is always going to be a percentage of errors and fraud — which is different than systematic fraud to the level it will flip the election.

It would have to be some serious, undeniable, proven without a doubt fraud.

So far, I’m not seeing that.

But, it’s possible. Yes, I would have to accept it.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
in 1877, it was wrapped up on the day before the old Presidential term expired, after an eighteen-hour session of the House of Representatives. If this crisis remaoins unresoived at Christmas, I shall bunp my thread on the old one.

a reply to: Annee

For me, after witnessing the 2000 fiasco with all its hanging chads and the stupidity that ensued, nothing would surprise me.

I think at this point, we are going to have some real hard years ahead of us either way. Although announcing Trump as the winner will likely see our cities burned (although i don't think the cities in Texas will, as our state handles it differently).

"May you live in interesting times" is supposed to be an insult. It looks like we are going to see why.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

Oh noes, a bunch of people on a conspiracy forum aren't watching the echo chambers...

Lol, you could have worded that differently so I wouldn't rip on you.... But I'm still not going to because I'm being nice today.

I have my beef with both sides of the debacle to be honest. The media did call it a little too early, people are acting like it's all over (it's far from IMO), but the right is making the same baseless allegations the left made in the 16' cycle. Maybe some stuff will turn up, but it hasn't yet. I'm not a fan of people rewriting reality based off of a hunch they have.

Now, I wouldn't be particularly surprised if there wasn't voter fraud. I fully expect there to be isolated instances with people of different ideologies engaging in it. With the numbers we have going out to the polls, I'd be more surprised if there's none. That's not to say it's fine or cool, because it's a very big breach of civic trust. That being said, the question is was it as widespread as some have alleged? Is it orchestrated or a bunch of lone wolfs. If it was quarterbacked by an entity, is that entity an official part of politics?

None of those questions have been answered with proof past hearsay, much less even brought up most of the time.

Back to your earlier point though, I frequent many echo chambers (none of the cable variety), I do that to get an idea of how different ideologies view things, the spin they throw on it, and to get my rocks off through mental BDSM. But you can't just say just because you don't visit ones' side, you don't engage in them.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Newsmax is the only article that has that posted and it's from 6 days ago.

That's the new favorite source of much of this site now.
Newsmax, OAN, TheGatewayPundit... They're the only ones trusted now, everything else is socialist and their sole purpose is to bring down Trump (even though he brought them into a new gilded age of ratings).

More than what I said above, the message is one many want to hear.... And that's what really matters.

Maybe because all CNN runs is stories like "who will Biden's white house pet dog be"

a reply to: underwerks

Isn't newsmax run by dems?

I thought the owners donated to dems?