I heard a birdie

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Let's hope we (me who has no cellphone) never needs to call 911. 😑

You have no cellphone? How do you call for help in a medical emergency?

EDIT : Landline maybe?

You don't need phone service of ANY kind to call 911. I implore everyone to keep their good old fashioned physical phone lines connected to their homes & phone jacks in their homes, and never toss their old corded phones. Plug 'em in & check that they still work now & then, because even when power's out, an old fashioned PHONE LINE is the only thing that is going to still push a call of any kind through. No charging required.


I'm a millennial (36) and I #ing loathe the cell phone era. It's made people stupid, short-sighted and dependent on tech. I have a cell at my husband's insistence to act as a "home phone", but about all it's useful for is texting now & then. Ive never taken it with me outside of the house, and flat refuse to (that should vex pro-tracers on here) NOBODY needs to get in touch with me bad enough that it cannot wait a few hours until we get home.

Your first part isn't fully accurate because what you are talking about is POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) where tip and ring voltage is usually provided over the line essentially giving you power fail phones.

With the advent of Cellular many ITSPs stopped offering POTS or more accurately stopped supporting the infrastructure for POTS service moving off of copper onto fiber or other. Sure maybe in rural areas POTS may still be an option but its a dying thing not found in many places still and shouldn't be assumed to viable for the future.

As for Tech and or making people stupid that is your opinion which you are entitled to. Your opinion is no better or no more accurate then anyone else it's just yours. If it doesn't work for you then great. Tech has allowed me to have a very rewarding and financially stable career over almost 28 years exclusively in the Telecom and Collaboration space . I have hundreds of peers that have had the same in their respective IT fields who would all disagree with you.

originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
If it happens then this is the beginning of Trump's coup

You're right...this is definitely something to do with the Coup against Trump..

Good Catch...

Nice try but nope.

Trump's Coup aka Operation Temper Tantrum

So you believe that a sitting president could stage a coup on the country he is in charge of?

What would his goals be? Sit in the Oval Office? Command forces of the US military?

I don’t think you understand any of this.

Is there really a "kill switch" on the internet? I am not sure there is, certainly not in the US and other advanced countries. There may be so in some of the world's dictatorships where the internet is tightly controlled e.g. China and Iran.

originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: sprockets2000

This is just like the martial law covid thread!

My uncles brothers cousins baby daddys parole officer told me so it must be true.

Which credible advance news from the real-world have you posted on ATS?

I don't post BS threads like "internet kill switch in 48 to 72 hours".

Obvious doom porn is obvious.

a reply to: paraphi

The internet moves on, but I live in the woods where there is no service. I have to rely on unreliable satellite, which means my service is killed several times a day. Always at the best parts.

By the way, I am the one that keeps dropping out and popping back into the online meetings. Sorry.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: peter_kandra

Are you in China?

Me neither but since the internet has no single connection point that all the data flows through, and the internet protocol was specifically designed so that data finds a route around parts of the network that are down, turning off an entire nation's access to such presents somewhat of a logistical dilemma.

There is no big red Internet kill switch if that's somehow your impression, not even in China.

No, I'm not in China, but seeing how successful there were in locking down a country of over 1 billion people, I'd say they have more of an ability to shut things down than you or I are aware of.

Yes, I do understand how the routing works at a high level. You don't need to take the whole thing down. Just remove the critical pieces and you accomplish the same thing.

There are several buildings in the country where almost all traffic for that region is routed through. One is in Atlanta on Marietta Street. Shut those buildings and their back-up generators down and you've effectively shut down the majority of the internet in the United States. Shut down trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific cables and you've now isolated the US from the rest of the world electronically except for satellite.

Shut down the cell towers, and there you go, we're back in the 80's. Millions of people would start crapping themselves from not knowing what to do.

a reply to: peter_kandra

Aye, and if they turn off the electricity and water we would be pretty much back to pre-industrial age times.

Like i said no big red kill switch to knock out the internet but there are procedures and plans in place for just about every and any scenario.

However once you knock those dominoes down its not quite as simple as just flipping a switch and turning everything back on.

Millions of people are crapping themselves from not knowing what to do, they are called Republicans at the moment.

a reply to: andy06shake

Millions of people are crapping themselves from not knowing what to do, they are called Republicans at the moment.

Not really. Whoever is in office, I'll still have a job, so will millions of other Republicans. Who the hell else is going to pay for the free stuff if we don't work?

a reply to: peter_kandra

Think there are two 90% effective COVID 19 vaccines doing the rounds, so back to work will be in the post at some point.

That's if they do what it says on the tin.

You don't work you don't eat and get evicted is my understanding, what free stuff?

a reply to: andy06shake

How can they honestly say that a vaccine is 90% effective, when according to the CDC, up to 70% of the population will not have symptoms of the virus, and they are not sure of the number of people that will not affected at all.


That is like me giving you a glass of water and saying it prevented you from getting a cold, when you didn't already have a cold, and did not get a cold this year.

In the old days, those two vaccine would be called snake oil.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I'm rather ambivalent to believe the 90% effective rate myself NightSkyeB4Dawn.

Considering our influenza vaccinations are around 40/50% effective at best.

I'm not a doctor nor virologist all the same so its a bit above my pay-grade.

Let's just say further studies are required and i would not be up for being one of the first to allow that concoction to be administered.

Try it on Boris and all his babies is my thinking on the matter, let see what happens next.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: sprockets2000

This is just like the martial law covid thread!

My uncles brothers cousins baby daddys parole officer told me so it must be true.

Come on man.

Yesterday. ATS got knocked offline. At the same time i could not post comments from twetch. Utube went down for a good while. Google / reddit / twitter all the big boys glitched. It was testing internet kill switch.

Something is afoot.

a reply to: purplemer

Yea, totally kill switch test. It wasn't the fact that websites have issues every day. The fact that THIS time it was website that YOU use = internet kill switch. Right.

Look at these websites that were down 2 weeks ago. Somethings was afoot then too, right?



Pick any day of the week and its the same thing.

But not now, now its Trump getting ready to be taken down or whatever crap you guys are believing today.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: sprockets2000

If “the internet” was stored on centralised servers in a single place, there might be some plausibility to this. Luckily, that’s not how it works.

See you over the weekend, where the internet will be functioning as normal (with its usual glitches and occasional site outages).

Internet access can be geographically terminated, as Ethiopia showed in Oromia for a three-week period earlier this year.

originally posted by: peter_kandra
a reply to: andy06shake

Millions of people are crapping themselves from not knowing what to do, they are called Republicans at the moment.

Not really. Whoever is in office, I'll still have a job, so will millions of other Republicans. Who the hell else is going to pay for the free stuff if we don't work?

Ha!

a reply to: FauxMulder

I saw it. I dont need to convince anyone. Understand many of these sites did not go down. They where made not to work. Utube for example the pages loaded but videos did not buff. Twetch loaded but the cypto pay button was defunctioned so you could not make posts. At the same time this was happening.

and at same time this happened. (along with many more. This is no coincidence. Regardless of what you think.

a reply to: purplemer

Yea, the internet never went down. Sites experienced the same glitches that happen all over the internet every day. OP said the internet was going to be shut down.

All critical thinking seems to have been lost on ATS recently. Enjoy the pareidolia.

You don't need to 'kill' the whole internet, you just need to block the right channels, and slow the other channels down. If they killed the internet as a whole, they would cut off their own communications. When your phones go dead, landlines and mobiles (cellular), that is when you know something not good is going on. If the electricity is cut, well, that would be a very elevated nightmare.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: putnam6

Again the internet is working just fine.

Including the site downdetector.com.

Dude where is my car?

Hang on that was "and then" not "again"

Never said it was down everywhere never said it wouldn't come back either. Again pointed out easily verifiable information

No more no less, any misunderstanding was due to your jumping to conclusions from "across the pond"

Dude, you said...

originally posted by: sprockets2000
The internet is going down in the next 48-72 hours.

The internet did not go down. Perhaps it was some mass DOD attack. That's likely what you predicted, the intended result not the actual one!

I'm not sprocket2000???? I never said nor did I agree the "Internet was going down" infer much?

a reply to: purplemer

Shortly after our lock down was imposed in March, here in Southern California, my Frontier Cable service went down along with my TMobile phone service and my Spectrum internet! All at once! At first, I thought it was just me, but then I saw people creeping out from their isolation and gathering on street corners, trying to find a signal.

I got in the car and drove to the nearest T Mobile store. There were so many people there! And the T Mobile reps were telling us that everyone was down. AT&T, Spectrum, Frontier, T Mobile, you name it, supposedly they were all down Someone said it was terrorism!

I didn't know what to think, and there was no phone, no TV and no internet, for someone to tell me what to think! Thankfully, about 2 hours later, everything came back on. I have no idea what happened.